AR Sponsor
Posted: 9/8/2005 2:33:56 PM EDT
| What makes a Recce a Recce? Barrle length? Optics? And whats Recce stand for? |
Yup it shoots. |
Are you serious  Looks too me like nothing more then a flattop Carbine with a scope. |
| I was under the impressiom the SPR and Recon Rifle were two seperate entities and Crane scrapped the Recon which the SEALs requested and gave them the SPR which was the desired upper that another branch wanted. The SPR was supposed to be an upper and not a complete rifle and the Recon was supposed to be something else and was never built at all. The SPR became a full rifle and the Recon was never issued and is just a "concept" and not a numbered peice of hardware. Is this not the case? |
Wes @ MSTN has been seeing RECCE's since 1999. They predate the SPR by a year or two, and I understand that many operators prefer the shorter RECCE to the SPR. |
That sounds mostly right to me. From what I've heard, the "recce" was never standardized like the SPR's were. They were just something the operators and/or their armorers kinda threw together because they wanted something with a little more reach than an M4. Then when they got the SPR, most of them felt that for the extra cost, weight, and length they might as well use the Knight's 7.62. I think the whole "recce" concept has really kinda reached its peak right here at arfcom, more than it has in any branch of the service. But for my money, it's the best balance of accuracy and "handiness" in a general purpose rifle that shoots 5.56. It's long enough and short enough, accurate enough and reliable enough.... Not perfect for anything, but pretty darn good at everything that a 5.56 can do. |
That is a great looking shooter, mongo .......but 1.5 @ 600 ? I didn't know it was possible to squeeze that type of precision from a 16. But if it is, I would expect it to look something like that one! sweet! |
If you're using optics, then barrel length has nothing to do with accuracy. And he did say 1.5 MOA which is 9" groups @ 600yds, not 1.5" groups @ 600yds. My take on the Recce is that it's a carbine with magnified optics*, and a 16", free-floated, better-than-rack-grade barrel to give it a bit more edge on longer shots over a standard issue M4 without going to a full-size rifle. My understanding is that's what the SEALs asked Crane for, but somebody got the idea to combine that request with one from the Army to save money and the result became the SPR, which wasn't what the SEALs wanted. *=In my mind "magnified optics" here means an ACOG w/BAC like the TA31, not a 3-9x like the SPR. But not an Aimpoint or EOTech either. The Recce has to perform well in the same short range role as the M4. |
AR Sponsor