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7/15/2005 8:11:56 AM EDT
I have a bushmaster m-4 with a 6 poistion butt stock.  I get alot of noise from the buffer and spring.  I've shot several others that did not have noise.  Is there a teflon sleeve or is there something else i can do to quiet down the buffer and spring.  Please help!!!!!!
7/15/2005 8:14:41 AM EDT
[#1]
Hi welcome , yea they can be noisy rotate the buffer and spring . Are you talking when it goes off or just while snaping in and no ammo ? Rocklock
7/15/2005 8:17:31 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
I have a bushmaster m-4 with a 6 poistion butt stock.  I get alot of noise from the buffer and spring.  I've shot several others that did not have noise.  Is there a teflon sleeve or is there something else i can do to quiet down the buffer and spring.  Please help!!!!!!



It's normal, don't jack with it.

In 8 years in the Army I have shot dozens of different M16s, most made that noise. It's a characteristic of the design.
7/15/2005 8:18:13 AM EDT
[#3]
the noise is evident when being shot.  i've tried rotating the buffer and spring and also tried a used buffer and spring. no changes  would a heavier after market buffer make a difference.
7/15/2005 8:21:05 AM EDT
[#4]
THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE!
7/15/2005 8:25:02 AM EDT
[#5]
Is it a spriooooong noise or something else?  If it is, I used a tubbs speedlock bufferspring from Brownells and have eliminated that noise.  Others have suggested a wolf xp action spring too.  Or get use to it.  I'm also using a H buffer.
7/15/2005 8:26:34 AM EDT
[#6]
Welcome to the board.

I must be having deja' poo - the feeling I've read this shit before.
7/15/2005 8:32:56 AM EDT
[#7]
It is a normal sound.

If it really bothers you, you could put some light grease on the spring to quiet it down.  But remember, if you do put anything on the spring, it will collect dirt and grit and will have to be cleaned out to prevent damage.

I personally would leave it alone.
7/15/2005 8:41:49 AM EDT
[#8]
normal




after awhile i forget about it or the sound goes away, one or the other
7/15/2005 8:54:30 AM EDT
[#9]
If you don't like it, get a ruger 10-22. They don't make a sproing noise.

Why do people buy a weapon system, then expect it to conform to their idea of how it should be?


Baffles me.
7/15/2005 9:06:27 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
If you don't like it, get a ruger 10-22. They don't make a sproing noise.

Why do people buy a weapon system, then expect it to conform to their idea of how it should be?


Baffles me.





then youll have a lot of threads about the clacking noise caused by the bolt
7/15/2005 9:28:39 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Welcome to the board.

I must be having deja' poo - the feeling I've read this shit before.



Only eight hundred fucking times.
7/15/2005 9:55:09 AM EDT
[#12]
Have you considered one of those pneumatic buffers. I think various companies make one including olympic arms.
7/15/2005 10:26:38 AM EDT
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7/15/2005 10:27:47 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
I have a bushmaster m-4 with a 6 poistion butt stock.  I get alot of noise from the buffer and spring.  I've shot several others that did not have noise.  Is there a teflon sleeve or is there something else i can do to quiet down the buffer and spring.  Please help!!!!!!



BAN!
7/15/2005 11:07:13 AM EDT
[#15]
I put a very slight film of TW25 on my springs, not sure if it helped but it sure as hell didn't hurt it.
7/15/2005 11:13:58 AM EDT
[#16]
Funny I have a bushmaster m4 type stock that does that. I assume your reffering to the sound the spring makes after it has already slamed a new round home in the chamber. It's sounds like the spring is continuing to vibrate and takes a while to die down. Right??

But I have another bushmaster that I switched out the newer M4 stock for an older CAR collaspable stock  that tightens right up after the bolt chambers the next round. Goes from sproong to *quiet* immediately.

If you're really unhappy with it, it sounds like the perfect excuse to me to buy a LMT, CRANE, Vltor, or Magpul stock set .

Some are like that bud, don't know what to tell you. None of my AR rifles make that noise. Just that one little damn Bushmaster carbine I bought does it??
7/15/2005 11:20:55 AM EDT
[#17]
The TWANG means it's working!
7/15/2005 11:23:35 AM EDT
[#18]
The guy's new. No need to freak out.

Welcome to ArfCom desertshadow. That sound is almost a patent to the AR15. There are some solutions listed in this thread that you could try if you get tired of the sound. The sproing sound is regular and as said earlier, it either goes away, or you quit noticing it.
7/15/2005 11:28:58 AM EDT
[#19]
Yes, welcome.


7/15/2005 11:31:03 AM EDT
[#20]
Heck, even my Vepr (RPK/AK) makes a sproing noise when fired. It's the sound of the operating rod spring on the AK flexing back into shape.
7/15/2005 1:09:22 PM EDT
[#21]
Thanks for the information.  This was my first time on this site and i have to say some of you are very helpful and others....WELL............................
7/15/2005 1:27:52 PM EDT
[#22]
Hey,  I'm feeling generous today.  I will send you a much better rifle,  called the mini-14.  It is a high capacity semi auto that DOESN"T HAVE THE STUPID SPRONG NOISE!!!!  All I ask in return is your Bushmaster M-4.  I think you will find it is worth it to get rid of that noise!


7/15/2005 2:14:26 PM EDT
[#23]
I don't think so.  I'll keep the bushmaster and you can keep your ranch gun.  
7/15/2005 5:13:34 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Welcome to the board.

I must be having deja' poo - the feeling I've read this shit before.



Only eight hundred fucking times.



Teaching marksmanship was THE best duty I ever had cept for a trippy Carribiean cruise in 75 . 800 times . Well then , if these folks were treated properly you've got 800 new marksmen , most in their 20's thats a pretty good return for a few minuites of your time . And the good news is w/ some 70K members no one really needs to speak up twice till the 800 gets to 50K or so , (except to offer help and encouagement ) when you'll run low on people who enjoy bringing new shooters to the fold . 800 times ? that IS ALOT of help . You guys were helpfull right? smiley see the smiley , happy , happy extra one for good measure .  RL
7/15/2005 6:22:12 PM EDT
[#25]
on my lower, i have an A1 stock with a standard buffer/tube/spring and i've had to switch it out with my brother's lower which has a CAR 4 pos stock and his makes some kind of annoying scraping sound when i pull the CH back so i assume that this is normal.
7/15/2005 6:27:02 PM EDT
[#26]
Until I read about it on this board, I had never noticed that noise.  

It hardly keeps me up at night.
7/15/2005 6:36:51 PM EDT
[#27]
Hey Im new here but just wanted to add. I have a DPMS panther lite  A1 low cost weapon, that does not  make any noise smoothe, but my brothers  Olimpic arms 223 and my friends Rock River AR's cost a few hundred more and have a very loud spring that twangs in your ear.
7/15/2005 6:42:48 PM EDT
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7/15/2005 6:47:52 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
Hey Im new here but just wanted to add. I have a DPMS panther lite  A1 low cost weapon, that does not  make any noise smoothe, but my brothers  Olimpic arms 223 and my friends Rock River AR's cost a few hundred more and have a very loud spring that twangs in your ear.

Somebody just started a new account and this thread has run its course.
7/15/2005 6:55:43 PM EDT
[#30]

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Thanks for the information.  This was my first time on this site and i have to say some of you are very helpful and others....WELL............................

Well, you may not have known about the "sproing" but at least you can use the animated icons which some more veterans members cannot. Seriously, we're just busting your chops.

The best way to approach questions like this is to ask if it's normal or if something's not right with your rifle? That way, you can still get an answer and reduce your chances of being fire bombed like Dresden.

Some of us have seen your question and many others posted over and over. No matter how much we stay away from here, when we come back, we see the same group of questions posted over and over. Sometimes, we just decide to post a AGNTSA or something similar.

To be blunt, the spring "sproing" thing should be documented in AR manuals or, even better, we should start a FAQ that goes over the info that folks who are new to the AR need to know. At least then, when someone says "I just got my first AR and I have tons of questions", we can just point them to the FAQ.

Anyway, I apologize for busting your balls. It's not a very nice way to welcome folks to the site but you did help me come up with a new little phrase (deja' poo)
7/15/2005 7:33:13 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
on my lower, i have an A1 stock with a standard buffer/tube/spring and i've had to switch it out with my brother's lower which has a CAR 4 pos stock and his makes some kind of annoying scraping sound when i pull the CH back so i assume that this is normal.



This will wear in and smooth out with time. Keep it lubed and clean in the meantime.
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