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Posted: 6/5/2005 6:04:10 PM EDT
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May have been discussed before, so please forgive me. Picked up my first personally owned AR a few weeks ago and noticed a slight issue. The slightest impact to the weapon (say a tap on the butt stock) causes the bolt to release. In other words, once I've locked the bolt back, any impact to the weapon sends it flying forward without me ever touching the bolt release. Every LMT in the store I purchased the weapon from did the same thing. I picked the rifle that seems to hold the strongest, but I'm guessing I'll need to replace the bolt catch spring, and possibly the entire assembly to resolve this. Anyone experience this before? I've seen this out in the field, but it usually requires a pretty good smack to induce this. With some of the LMT's in the store, I think the bolt would have released if you even farted near the weapon. Great rifle otherwise, and this small issue doesn't really impact the business function of the weapon, but I'd rather not leave this issue unresolved. Any rec's on good replacement parts in this area? Thanks in advance. |
This is normal and part of the reason why you don't store a loaded magazine in an AR15/M16 with the bolt locked back, jarring the thing will cause the bolt to go forward in a manner like you describe. |
This is normal.  C4 |
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Perfectly normal, depending on how you manually cycle the bolt back and apply the bolt catch. It happens with ANY AR if you hit the buttstock hard enough. Inertial moves the bolt back out of contact with the catch. I bet it doesnt happen that easily when the bolt locks back on an empty mag from being fired to bolt lock. |
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C4, I'll be checking your link in a few minutes. On the issue of purchasing the LMT - I did purchase a complete LMT rifle. Local dealer informed me that he could sell to LEO and Military personnel, but not to civilians. As part of the paperwork process, he photocopied my military ID. Other than that, sale was the same as purchasing any other weapon in the store. One civilian did attempt to purchase a LMT while I was there and was denied because he didn't have LEO or Military creds. uglygun and lumpy, I'm hearing that from a couple of buddies of mine from group, but I've got at least one 18b from my old unit saying that mine is releasing just a little too easy. He did say I shouldn't have to worry about it, but it's one of those things that might potentially annoy me in the long run. Granted, the weapon will not/not be stored with a loaded mag inserted, and certainly not with a mag inserted without the safety engaged unless firing, but if this is a case where mine is releasing a little too easily I'd like to correct it. I haven't tried it with the bolt locked back on an empty mag. Will do that now. Thanks for the quick response guys. |
| From what you are saying, its not an issue. ALL M16/ AR15s will do this. That yours does it a little more could be something as simple as more or less lube. If its a big deal to you, have your unit armorer drop in a new bolt catch spring, but I honestly would not sweat it. |
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Thanks stickman - I think I'll leave it be. I locked it back on an empty mag and could not get it to release via the "smacking" method. Thanks to all again. Got Guns - I wasn't hitting it very hard at all, but it varies. Sometimes the slightest tap induces the release, sometimes I have to give it a pretty good whack. For now though, it appears to be a non-issue. Not sure on your earlier question of dealers putting together uppers and lowers - I imagine you could do this yourself though, as I'm fairly certain I've seen someone selling LMT lowers in the EE - albeit with a different companies stamp on them. Assuming this rifle holds up well and meets my expectations, I'll likely build one utilizing one of those MRP uppers I saw at the dealer. Take care now. |
Nothing prevents you from buying a LMT complete lower and LMT complete upper separetely.  Under the Commie Bible is an LMT rollmark, I promise. |
This may have already been answered in another thread, but can a "DEALER" buy a lower and upper from LMT (separate) and then sell it as complete to a civilian? That was my original question. |
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I had an HK handgun that was that way also. It turned out to be the magazine was faulty. I realize that sounds crazy to compare the two, but it could be the magazine/follower/spring or a combination are to blame for the "hair trigger" release Plus you can check it out by changing magazines to one you know is sound and reliable in another AR. Just a thought |
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