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6/2/2005 12:34:48 PM EDT
As I read through the threads, I feel that many people think that every firearm they purchase will increase in value. I have (and had) many firearms in my safe over the years, most are shooters and unless I fell I "stole" it when I bought it, I don't look at  them as money makers.

Don't get me wrong, I have them as investments but my 401K and my properties are doing much better to make me money.

I have 2 questions for the group.
1. Do you feel the most firearms increase in value? (after being fired)
and
2.Would a "brand name" complete rifle bring a better resale compaired to a fabricate unit. (for dollars spent)

wadayathink?
6/2/2005 12:36:40 PM EDT
[#1]
1.   don't care, don't sell my guns

2.   see #1




The laws that have been passed over the years have  a big effect on value.



Besides those issues, some brands do matter.   That yellow label box for a Colt might be worth $200.    collectors  
6/2/2005 12:37:14 PM EDT
[#2]
no-- it would depend on how many were made, if collectors are seekin em out, but if they were massed produced, a newer unfired one will get you more money than a used one

yes--name/logos are usually worth more
6/2/2005 1:15:33 PM EDT
[#3]
It also depends on the brand.  I see used Colts go for 800 to 1,000 at gunshows all the time.I just saw a  used  ASA bull barrel 16'' yesterday for 650.  Has more to do with brand, round count, and condition than anything else.

Couch-Commando
6/2/2005 1:30:20 PM EDT
[#4]
Any product they are still making more of will never be an investment and will never appreciate in value, regardless of what it is.  Any substitute/like kind product to what you own that they are making more of will cause whatever you own to not be an investment.  This applies to everything.

Examples:
Land - great investment, they are not making any more of it
Gold/prcious jewels - in the long run value goes up, however could fluctuate if more is found etc.  But ypically it fits the scenario
Old AR's like SP1's etc - not an investment, as long as there are like and substitute guns out there, you're really old  AR will never appreciate in value.  
Vehicles - dont even ask, definately the worst buy a person can make

This scenario does not fit for people who buy a product below market and sell it at market or a little above.  That is not an investment.  An investment is something that appreciates on its own.
6/2/2005 1:38:16 PM EDT
[#5]
No
yes
6/2/2005 1:55:19 PM EDT
[#6]
1. Too many variables to give any kind of yes-no answer.

a. What kind of gun is it?
b. Is it still available?
c. How much did you pay for it? (did you get a great deal on it or over pay?)
d. Was it kept in good shape?
e. How long have you had it?

As you already pointed out, there are much better investments but often, you can make a profit buying, using and then selling firearms. Would I buy a gun specifically for that purpose? Usually no but I could see a few situation were I would.

Some of my guns are still worth what I paid for them. Some more and some less. What I do like about this hobby is, generally speaking, you won't loose much on a firearm if you do sell it down the road unlike some other hobbies. Many other hobbies involve taking heavy looses when the timer comes to thin out and\or upgrade.

2. Just watch the EE for a while and you will see that factory built rifles almost always have a higher resale value. IMO, the best way to sell a home built AR and get the majority of your money back is to sell it the same way you bought it, as parts.

Just my $.02
6/2/2005 3:16:37 PM EDT
[#7]
If it was a limited edition or one no longer made.
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