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12/16/2004 2:28:27 AM EDT
Who makes a chrome lined mid length handgaurd 16" barrel?  I have seen the CAV arms uppers for sale but I really just want the barrel preferably stripped but I'll take one with the FSB/lug installed.  Thanks.  
12/16/2004 2:41:33 AM EDT
[#1]
RRA sells one now. I know Steve at ADCO sells it. Not sure who else does.
12/16/2004 2:43:14 AM EDT
[#2]
Adco

It's in the RRA section under Barrel Assemblies.
12/16/2004 2:49:14 AM EDT
[#3]
Armalite makes one also, but I don't see them listed as separate items on their website.  An email/phone call may help.
12/16/2004 3:15:27 AM EDT
[#4]

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Adco

It's in the RRA section under Barrel Assemblies.



Mine is still in back order...6 weeks now.  I guess it is a little tough to get barrels from RRA at this time.
12/16/2004 3:40:54 AM EDT
[#5]
WOW!  You guys are fast!  Thanks for all the quick replies.  I'll have to call  RRA, Adco and Armalite to check availability.    
12/16/2004 4:51:16 AM EDT
[#6]
I got mine from Adco and have been very happy with it.

12/16/2004 4:54:48 AM EDT
[#7]
I've got an Armalite. I'm extremely happy with the upper except for the handguards. They absofreakin'lutely suck.

I've heard lots of good things about RRA as far as they're accurate and they eat anything.

Goodluck.

12/16/2004 5:09:13 AM EDT
[#8]
I bought a compete midlength chrome lined upper from adco when they had them in.  
12/16/2004 7:03:00 AM EDT
[#9]
WOW, you just missed the group buy.
12/16/2004 7:07:03 AM EDT
[#10]

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WOW, you just missed the group buy.



there will be leftovers
12/21/2004 5:53:52 PM EDT
[#11]

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WOW, you just missed the group buy.



there will be leftovers



Where?
12/21/2004 5:59:27 PM EDT
[#12]

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WOW, you just missed the group buy.



there will be leftovers



Where?



Contact giffmann.
12/22/2004 6:23:13 AM EDT
[#13]

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I've got an Armalite. I'm extremely happy with the upper except for the handguards. They absofreakin'lutely suck.


I have no complaints about the HGs on my RRA mid-length.  Don't know how well they hold up to heat though--have only done slowish fire with it (1 shot every 5-10 seconds).  I would have assumed that RRA & Armalite get their HGs from the same place.

Try Cavalry Arms.  They make mid-length HGs in both normal and the fatter M4-style.
12/22/2004 6:40:15 AM EDT
[#14]

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I got mine from Adco and have been very happy with it.




+1
12/22/2004 7:13:07 AM EDT
[#15]

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WOW, you just missed the group buy.



there will be leftovers



Where?



I'll list them on the site when they arrive. Dont tell anyone, but I have 25 coming for those who missed out on the group buy
12/22/2004 8:06:29 AM EDT
[#16]

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I'll list them on the site when they arrive. Dont tell anyone, but I have 25 coming for those who missed out on the group buy


Ya takin' pre-orders?
12/22/2004 8:11:44 AM EDT
[#17]

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I'll list them on the site when they arrive. Dont tell anyone, but I have 25 coming for those who missed out on the group buy



I thought you said no one needed a 1/7 barrel unless we were going to fight off zombies or a Canadian paratrooper invasion...
12/22/2004 9:01:41 AM EDT
[#18]

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I'll list them on the site when they arrive. Dont tell anyone, but I have 25 coming for those who missed out on the group buy



I thought you said no one needed a 1/7 barrel unless we were going to fight off zombies or a Canadian paratrooper invasion...



Dude, quit confusing reality and fantasy- everyone knows there is no such thing as Canadian paratroopers!

BigBore, are those barresl goign to be 1/9 or 1/7?
12/22/2004 9:35:17 AM EDT
[#19]

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I'll list them on the site when they arrive. Dont tell anyone, but I have 25 coming for those who missed out on the group buy



I thought you said no one needed a 1/7 barrel unless we were going to fight off zombies or a Canadian paratrooper invasion...



Dude, quit confusing reality and fantasy- everyone knows there is no such thing as Canadian paratroopers!

BigBore, are those barresl goign to be 1/9 or 1/7?



LOL!

If BigBore is indeed talking about the Giffman mid-length barrel group buy then they have a 1/7 twist.
12/22/2004 3:32:58 PM EDT
[#20]

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I thought you said no one needed a 1/7 barrel unless we were going to fight off zombies or a Canadian paratrooper invasion...



I still say its a waste of money to pay extra for a chrome lined, 1:7, 4150 barrel compared to standard RRA/BM barrel.  But I'm in business to make money, and if theres a demand, I'll supply.   The AR crowd is an interesting bunch The only group I have come across who are more anal are the 1911 die-hards
12/22/2004 3:39:20 PM EDT
[#21]

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I thought you said no one needed a 1/7 barrel unless we were going to fight off zombies or a Canadian paratrooper invasion...



I still say its a waste of money to pay extra for a chrome lined, 1:7, 4150 barrel compared to standard RRA/BM barrel.  But I'm in business to make money, and if theres a demand, I'll supply.   The AR crowd is an interesting bunch The only group I have come across who are more anal are the 1911 die-hards



Truer words have never been spoken!
12/23/2004 4:11:09 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

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I thought you said no one needed a 1/7 barrel unless we were going to fight off zombies or a Canadian paratrooper invasion...



I still say its a waste of money to pay extra for a chrome lined, 1:7, 4150 barrel compared to standard RRA/BM barrel.  But I'm in business to make money, and if theres a demand, I'll supply.   The AR crowd is an interesting bunch The only group I have come across who are more anal are the 1911 die-hards



I'll also add that when you start getting into highend AR's and 1911's it aint about need anymore.  We will get what we want because we can.  If we were only limited to what everyone thought we "NEEDED" we would be lucky to even be allowed to own a 10/22 and .38 and you'd probably be out of business...

Also for someone like me who doesn't have a whole store full of AR's I want my two AR's to have the option to shoot the best Zombie stopping, Canadian Paratroop defending ammo available.

I also know a few people who always tell me I don't need my 4x4 Jeep but who's laughing now.  

Cheers!



12/23/2004 5:09:05 AM EDT
[#23]
One thing I love about America - the word "need" doesnt meant the same to us as in other countries.  When it comes to selling the "not needed" barrels, someone here posted it just right -  Those who dont know, and ask my "sales opinion"  will be happy with the less expensive 1:9, knowing they will never shoot anything more than white box. Those who DO  know, wont ask me and will just order.
Retail is in interesting game. Like any hobby there is a fine line to balance when catering to your customers. With RC cars, some will be happy with  battery powered, while others will want gas engines.
12/24/2004 5:04:52 AM EDT
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We will get what we want because we can.  



That is classic.
12/24/2004 6:54:33 AM EDT
[#25]

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We will get what we want because we can.  



That is classic.



It's true!
12/24/2004 12:50:52 PM EDT
[#26]
Bigbore,

Is that Giffman barrel supposed to be thicker or thinner than the RRA in front of the front sight? I'm awaiting a RRA from you to do your famous upper with DD. All advice & info is greatly appreciated!

Robert
12/28/2004 8:35:39 PM EDT
[#27]
IIRC the "giffman" barrel is .72" full length (except for under the FSB, by the chamber, and a flange for the HG cap).  My RRA (a 1:8 SS) was more like .74 in front of the FSB and about .9" under the HGs.  I believe a RRA profiled by Adco will be less than .72" under the HGs (more like .63") and the same .74" in front of the FSB.
12/28/2004 9:15:03 PM EDT
[#28]
Anybody have a idea what the weight difference will be? I was waiting on ADCO to get thier RRA barrels to have it lightened under the handguards. I want a lightweight gun no heavier than my M4's. All info is appreciated!

Robert
12/28/2004 9:28:19 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
IIRC the "giffman" barrel is .72" full length (except for under the FSB, by the chamber, and a flange for the HG cap).  My RRA (a 1:8 SS) was more like .74 in front of the FSB and about .9" under the HGs.  I believe a RRA profiled by Adco will be less than .72" under the HGs (more like .63") and the same .74" in front of the FSB.




Giffman mid specs:

.72 from barrel nut to the handguard cap
.78 step for the handguard cap
.75 for the FSB
.72 from FSB to muzzle
12/28/2004 9:59:53 PM EDT
[#30]
What does that translate to weight wise?? What is the weight of an ADCO contoured middy vs the Giffmann?? Again all help is greatly appreciated!!

Robert
12/28/2004 10:24:19 PM EDT
[#31]
I dont have exact weights between the two, but the best way to describe it is you wouldnt use the Giffman barrel for a lightweight build per se, but it certainly isnt anywhere near as bad as an H-bar.
12/29/2004 5:06:13 AM EDT
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I'll list them on the site when they arrive. Dont tell anyone, but I have 25 coming for those who missed out on the group buy



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