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11/21/2004 6:26:31 AM EDT
Hello,
             To be honest with you all ,I'm really into the brassshower thing, it gets me almost excited as being with a horny 20 year poll dancer, but thats another story in it's self. My question is , Is it easier to bump fire with a 16" AR than a 20"er?  Also, do you think Wolf ammo is loaded hot enough to get the rifle to bump consistently? No matter how hard I try, I never can get more than a short burst.  
11/21/2004 7:08:47 AM EDT
[#1]
My target rifle wont bump for crap (20"A2 HBAR).  I seem to have the best luck with my light weight M4gry's.
I don't know about Wolf in a AR, I've never used it.  I have tried Wolf in my MPA10 and it didn't bump as well as the other cheap .45 ammo (UMC, PMC, etc.)  It did seem weaker.
Light gun, light trigger and hot ammo seems to be the way to go.
11/28/2004 3:33:51 AM EDT
[#2]
whats bump fireing?
11/28/2004 3:41:25 AM EDT
[#3]

whats bump fireing?


How to Bump Fire
11/28/2004 3:48:16 AM EDT
[#4]
Thanks
11/28/2004 4:19:07 AM EDT
[#5]
Hello BeerbellyBo,
For me, the touch sorta comes and goes. Some days my 20"A2 Hbar bumps great and the next day I can't get nothing. Same as my 16"s. All in all I'd have to say that the short light ones work best. As far as Wolf goes, there is no doubt in my mind that it's underpowered for bump firing. I like the stuff but just not for bumpin. The 7.62x39 Wolf for AKs works perfect though.
Good luck
Base-Rigger
11/28/2004 4:35:24 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Hello BeerbellyBo,
For me, the touch sorta comes and goes. Some days my 20"A2 Hbar bumps great and the next day I can't get nothing. Same as my 16"s. All in all I'd have to say that the short light ones work best. As far as Wolf goes, there is no doubt in my mind that it's underpowered for bump firing. I like the stuff but just not for bumpin. The 7.62x39 Wolf for AKs works perfect though.
Good luck
Base-Rigger



You might want to get your mind looked into then

I bump the Wolf just fine in my M4gery.  The 55 gr FMJ stuff works.  My study has led to three reasons a weapon won't bumpfire:

1) The trigger is such that it just won't do it.  You can't bump fire every rifle.
2) The weight of the rifle is a big deal.  One guy had a 20" bbl with all the toys hanging off it.  It messes up the inertia.
3) Technique is key.  Once you get it down, you can bump most rifles.  And you will
11/28/2004 5:17:19 AM EDT
[#7]
Yep lighter is better. Wolf will work but it takes more finesse.  Atleast for tose with heavier rifles.  My Carbon 15 will bump easily with wolf, but then again its a 4 lb. gun.
11/28/2004 5:37:04 PM EDT
[#8]
Bump fireing relys soley on the recoil the rifle gives you, so less recoil the harder it is to do.

My 7.5" barreled AR kicks like a mule and is very easy to bump fire.


BISHOP
11/28/2004 6:02:02 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Bump fireing relys soley on the recoil the rifle gives you, so less recoil the harder it is to do.

My 7.5" barreled AR kicks like a mule and is very easy to bump fire.


BISHOP



I bet that is fun!

11/28/2004 10:03:33 PM EDT
[#10]
I agree, Wolf works fine ofr bump fire.  Works in my XM177E2 copy, as well as my M4 copy.  I'm waiting to get my 20" HBAR upper back from the gunsmith, never tried with that barrel.
11/28/2004 10:33:44 PM EDT
[#11]
SwankermaN


Nice video - explains it all
11/28/2004 11:03:56 PM EDT
[#12]
The bump fire link isn't working, just a qiuck description?
11/28/2004 11:11:58 PM EDT
[#13]
I had to down load some program to get it -when it directs you to that program - download it..
I forgot the name of the program, but it seems to be somthing new and alot of video files are using it.

You can also right click and save it that way
11/28/2004 11:54:49 PM EDT
[#14]
I never could get my AR to bump with any ammo. Its an Bushy XM15 16' HBAR. The gun is heavy enough and the recoil light enough that it just wont bump for me.

But my Ak's on the other hand can empty drums
11/29/2004 12:03:58 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
…I'm really into the brassshower thing, it gets me almost excited as being with a horny 20 year poll dancer…


Brass shower…

Pole dancer…



Those are carry handles!
11/29/2004 12:28:00 AM EDT
[#16]
both my 20inch and 16 inch bump great!
11/29/2004 9:23:09 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
…I'm really into the brassshower thing, it gets me almost excited as being with a horny 20 year poll dancer…


Brass shower…

Pole dancer…

img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/JTR8541/Family/6d7efffd.gif

Those are carry handles!


Thanks a lot ch139, you just had to show me that .  (I think I'm in love)
11/29/2004 9:54:56 AM EDT
[#18]
7KOPPER, Don't know if anyone answered your question yet.

Hold the rifle firmly with the non-firing hand on the forearm, stick trigger finger in trigger guard and hold finger stiff....pull gun forward with offhand into trigger finger. The rifle will recoil backward to set the trigger and your continious forward pressure will make it fire again......practice until you can do it from your shoulder...that's what's cool....shoulder bumping!

Just know where your rounds are hitting!!!!!
11/29/2004 11:44:03 AM EDT
[#19]
Where you guys able to view the Bump Fire video clip?

I kept getting a codec error.

If someone has it and can send it to me as a clip, I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Tim
11/29/2004 11:47:21 AM EDT
[#20]
I use a T handle allen wrench on the trigger, the steel of the wrench doesnt flex like a finger.  Holy crap will it run fast that way.  
11/29/2004 3:23:35 PM EDT
[#21]
Has anyone ever bump fired an M1 or an M14 (clone)?
11/29/2004 3:45:03 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
…I'm really into the brassshower thing, it gets me almost excited as being with a horny 20 year poll dancer…


Brass shower…

Pole dancer…

img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/JTR8541/Family/6d7efffd.gif

Those are carry handles!



+1!

God is that a sweet pic.
11/29/2004 7:42:57 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Where you guys able to view the Bump Fire video clip?

I kept getting a codec error.

If someone has it and can send it to me as a clip, I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Tim



I've been getting that with .avi files a lot lately, and this bump-fire video is no different.
11/29/2004 8:23:23 PM EDT
[#24]
The video works fine for me; Though I do have a divx player installed for avi, this may be the reason it works for me.

You can get one for free at www.divxx.com to play avi video, and I guess the bump firing video, though not sure if this is why it works for me.
11/30/2004 9:39:49 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Where you guys able to view the Bump Fire video clip?

I kept getting a codec error.

If someone has it and can send it to me as a clip, I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Tim



I've been getting that with .avi files a lot lately, and this bump-fire video is no different.




Yep, you need to go to somewhere like download.net and do a search for divx. Or just use google and search for "divx player".
Codecs are simply instructions that tell your video player (windows media player, winamp, whatever) how to read the file. In this case, the bumpfire video uses a certain "codec" or set of instructions.  The newer divx player will take care of you. If I'm not mistaken, the divx player is about a 6 meg download.  Even if you don't want to watch "this" particular video, I'm a big fan of software upgrades in general.  It will prevent codec errors in the future....or until new codecs are released.
11/30/2004 11:07:47 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Has anyone ever bump fired an M1 or an M14 (clone)?



Yeah..ditto to that question.  Is it possible with the heavier .308 battle rifles?  (HK-91)
11/30/2004 11:13:25 AM EDT
[#27]
I've bumped my 51 (shorter version of 91 for those who don't know) I could only get a few short bursts....and only from the hip. For me, the heavier/creepier hk type trigger didn't help any.
11/30/2004 11:18:47 AM EDT
[#28]
hmmm... believe it or not i've never knew what bump firing actually was until now.  Guess I'll have to try it buy you're right...HK triggers dont' help much.  Maybe a williams trigger job would help?  I was planning on having one done anyways so...


***On another note now that I think back on it I would bump fire my AR unintentionally every now and then without trying.  I couldn't figure out why i was getting 2-3 shot bursts every now and then and even posted about it here on ARFCOM.  I'd bet this was what was happening.
11/30/2004 11:22:51 AM EDT
[#29]
Hey do these thing work without firing the rifle from your side?
Go to Online Catalog then full auto triggers



-Matt
11/30/2004 11:41:47 AM EDT
[#30]
You've not bumped until you bumped a pistol. I bumped a 1911 and an Astra Star 9mm. Talk about fun. The jaws of my friends dropped at that one.

I'm gonna try to bump my Mod 29 S&W next..... Do they make a drum attachment for a revolver?
11/30/2004 11:59:46 AM EDT
[#31]
How are you holding that 1911...sounds interesting.
11/30/2004 12:03:37 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
I've bumped my 51 (shorter version of 91 for those who don't know) I could only get a few short bursts....and only from the hip. For me, the heavier/creepier hk type trigger didn't help any.



I bet the much better trigger of the M1 and M14 would be a bump firing machine.
11/30/2004 12:06:09 PM EDT
[#33]
What I did was use the weak hand trigger finger for the trigger and keep it stiff to allow recoil to operate it. Works better with a lighter single action like a Star or a factory 1911. Funniest thing once you get it right. We have it on tape somewhere. I'll see if I can dig it up. I doubt it would work on anything except a 1911 or clone based actions.
11/30/2004 12:09:04 PM EDT
[#34]
I've also bump fired my FAL's and an M1A once. That one got a visit from a deputy. Had to explain what was going on. He thought it was pretty cool. Nothing sounds as good as a .308 going full auto.
<BIG C3 grin>
11/30/2004 12:15:25 PM EDT
[#35]
Is it difficult to bump fire from the shoulder?  
11/30/2004 12:18:38 PM EDT
[#36]
Hell I'm 58 years old and I like to bump!!!!! I am wanting to see if I can do it with a 10/22.
11/30/2004 12:25:47 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Where you guys able to view the Bump Fire video clip?

I kept getting a codec error.

If someone has it and can send it to me as a clip, I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Tim



I've been getting that with .avi files a lot lately, and this bump-fire video is no different.




Yep, you need to go to somewhere like download.net and do a search for divx. Or just use google and search for "divx player".
Codecs are simply instructions that tell your video player (windows media player, winamp, whatever) how to read the file. In this case, the bumpfire video uses a certain "codec" or set of instructions.  The newer divx player will take care of you. If I'm not mistaken, the divx player is about a 6 meg download.  Even if you don't want to watch "this" particular video, I'm a big fan of software upgrades in general.  It will prevent codec errors in the future....or until new codecs are released.



Workin' like a charm now
11/30/2004 12:27:48 PM EDT
[#38]
Once you get good, you can do it from the shoulder....my Carbon 15 type 97s with RRA 2 stage trigger is a bump-o-matic from the shoulder.


The 10/22 is what I am currently trying to master....I can get doubles and an ocasional tripple from the hip. I am trying to lighten the entire gun up more to see if that helps.....I am going to turn more material off of the barrel....hopefully that will help.
11/30/2004 1:02:44 PM EDT
[#39]
Ive bumped a mag out of a CETME, that worked well. I was a little afraid the 76251 would blow the rifle from my grip at first, but I got a whole mag out of it with no trouble. That was a loud beast! I got a call from a neighbor about a mile away asking me what the heck was going on...and if he could come over. Hehehe

Tell me more about bumping a 10/22 that sounds like the best. Factory made opnes wont bump, where are you taking weight off?
11/30/2004 2:03:02 PM EDT
[#40]
I added an old ramline folder to it...they aren't a great stock, but they are light. I started turning down the outside of the barrel......I have alot of steel left, I may end up making that baby THIN.

I have a Volquartsen hammer/trigger in it too, so it has a nice trigger.

I'm getting close, but not to good yet. I am using 30 rnd mags.

Like I say....doubles are getting easy, but that's about it......so far!
11/30/2004 2:14:29 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
I use a T handle allen wrench on the trigger, the steel of the wrench doesnt flex like a finger.  Holy crap will it run fast that way.  





Mr45auto after bumpin the Beta…

What was the sustained rate of fire for these weapons again?

-Chris
11/30/2004 2:15:41 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
…I'm really into the brassshower thing, it gets me almost excited as being with a horny 20 year poll dancer…


Brass shower…

Pole dancer…



Those are carry handles!



+1!

God is that a sweet pic.



Yes.

Yes it is.
12/1/2004 7:35:49 AM EDT
[#43]
Has anyone bumb fired with a new Bushmaster M4?



-Matt
12/1/2004 7:56:20 AM EDT
[#44]
Are you allowed to bump fire at a range? I dont have anywhere else to shoot! Dont think the range guy would like that one too much. Also would a drop in trigger system help bumpfiring any?
12/1/2004 8:23:38 AM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:
Are you allowed to bump fire at a range? I dont have anywhere else to shoot! Dont think the range guy would like that one too much. Also would a drop in trigger system help bumpfiring any?



Really depends on the range. Alot of Sportsman's-type ranges have second rules on firing, like no more than 1 round per 4 seconds, or something similar. A good bump fire is a hell of alot more than 1 round every 4 seconds, so if you want a fast trip off some of the more conservative ranges then bump-fire away Inquire at the range in question.
12/1/2004 8:51:08 AM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Where you guys able to view the Bump Fire video clip?

I kept getting a codec error.

If someone has it and can send it to me as a clip, I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Tim



I've been getting that with .avi files a lot lately, and this bump-fire video is no different.




Yep, you need to go to somewhere like download.net and do a search for divx. Or just use google and search for "divx player".
Codecs are simply instructions that tell your video player (windows media player, winamp, whatever) how to read the file. In this case, the bumpfire video uses a certain "codec" or set of instructions.  The newer divx player will take care of you. If I'm not mistaken, the divx player is about a 6 meg download.  Even if you don't want to watch "this" particular video, I'm a big fan of software upgrades in general.  It will prevent codec errors in the future....or until new codecs are released.

12/1/2004 8:51:58 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Where you guys able to view the Bump Fire video clip?

I kept getting a codec error.

If someone has it and can send it to me as a clip, I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Tim



I've been getting that with .avi files a lot lately, and this bump-fire video is no different.




Yep, you need to go to somewhere like download.net and do a search for divx. Or just use google and search for "divx player".
Codecs are simply instructions that tell your video player (windows media player, winamp, whatever) how to read the file. In this case, the bumpfire video uses a certain "codec" or set of instructions.  The newer divx player will take care of you. If I'm not mistaken, the divx player is about a 6 meg download.  Even if you don't want to watch "this" particular video, I'm a big fan of software upgrades in general.  It will prevent codec errors in the future....or until new codecs are released.



Thanks......
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