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11/16/2004 7:00:03 PM EDT
I have a Bushmaster A3 Carbine. It was a post ban rifle and came with a muzzle brake that is similar to a Y-Comp. It may be a Y-Comp but the pictures of the Y-Comps that I have seen, none of the Y-Comps have 3 large ports on the top of the muzzle brake like mine does. It has 3 large ports down the left and right side. It has two rows of two ports on top that are off set left and right. In the center on top and set back behind the two sets of smaller ports is a row of three larger ports. whew!!!

I have not fired this rifle yet. Are these muzzle brakes better to use than say a GI A2 flash suppressor?

I am open to recommendations of flash suppressors. I prefer something that doesn't have much of a down blast. Thanks!
11/16/2004 7:38:11 PM EDT
[#1]
They are evil!

Get rid of it as soon as possible.
There have been a lot of threads on here, right around September with instructions for removal, or you can take it to a gunsmith.

11/16/2004 8:18:24 PM EDT
[#2]
... WHAT DID YOU SAY? I CAN'T HEAR!


Avoid mini-Y/Y-comp like a plaque.
11/16/2004 8:30:25 PM EDT
[#3]
All muzzle brakes are evil, but the mini Y is by far one of  the worst offenders
11/16/2004 8:50:50 PM EDT
[#4]
What your fellow board members are trying to say here is....

The Y-Comp is crap. LOL!

The reason the Y-comp is thought of as evil (which it is) is because of the muzzle blast it directs straight back at the shooter when fired. You will be hard pressed to find a louder, more uncomfortable brake to shoot with. It is NO comparison to the birdcage which is a 100 times better. If you got a M4 with a 14.5" barrel, make sure to get a brake that is at least 1.5" long. The birdcage is not.
11/16/2004 9:45:52 PM EDT
[#5]
Come over to the Dark Side, Jedi dog!

Mini-Y Comp rules!
11/17/2004 10:50:29 AM EDT
[#6]
i hate that muzzle... hard to clean
11/17/2004 11:36:59 AM EDT
[#7]
Are you suppost to clean 'em?
11/17/2004 11:54:10 AM EDT
[#8]
Yah they are loud, yah they blast whoever is standing on either side of you, but they are the most effective muzzle break out there.  Almost no recoil at all.  I feel like I am shooting a BB gun.....
11/17/2004 2:10:22 PM EDT
[#9]
I have a similar Bushmaster SgtSauer.  The y-comp/mini-y comp stinks.  The only good thing about it is the slightly reduced recoil.  The comps are loud and the muzzle blast sucks the big dog.  I suggest getting a Phantom 5c1 or 5c2.    
11/17/2004 7:42:32 PM EDT
[#10]
Good Advice Noob! I have Phantoms on both my AR's now, and have no complaints. As far as recoil goes, I really didn't notice the Y-comp being any better than the Phantoms. The AR15 is a smooth gun as is, with very little felt recoil.  (IMHO)

The phantom is smoother, and way quieter than ANY compensator, especially the Y-comps.
11/18/2004 7:25:16 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Yah they are loud, yah they blast whoever is standing on either side of you, but they are the most effective muzzle break out there.  Almost no recoil at all.  I feel like I am shooting a BB gun.....



+1  

It depends on what you want the rifle for.  I have a Y comp on my three gun rifle and it's great.  If you're shooting as fast a possible while still hitting you targts, it helps.

If you're just plinking or shooting groups, it doesn't matter.  As for the blast and loudness, you're wearing hearing protection anyway, so what does it matter??  Although I would never want to touch off a round with the Y comp with no hearing protection!!!  Deafening for sure.  
11/18/2004 8:08:55 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Yah they are loud, yah they blast whoever is standing on either side of you, but they are the most effective muzzle break out there.  Almost no recoil at all.  I feel like I am shooting a BB gun.....



+1  

It depends on what you want the rifle for.  I have a Y comp on my three gun rifle and it's great.  If you're shooting as fast a possible while still hitting you targts, it helps.

If you're just plinking or shooting groups, it doesn't matter.  As for the blast and loudness, you're wearing hearing protection anyway, so what does it matter??  Although I would never want to touch off a round with the Y comp with no hearing protection!!!  Deafening for sure.  



DITTO!  WE ALL HAVE TO WEAR EAR PROTECTION ANYWAYS.......
11/18/2004 12:18:37 PM EDT
[#13]
I had a Y-comp at one time.  I think it does exactly what it was designed to do and it does it very well.  It does an excelent job at keeping the muzzle rize to just a tiny bump and it reduces the percieved recoil to almost non existant.  Unfortunately, it does this by shooting flaming death back and too the sides.  Much to the discomfort of anyone around me.
11/18/2004 2:38:09 PM EDT
[#14]
Every time this topic comes up, I remember somebody once commenting that it functioned as a combination muzzlebrake and flashbang grenade.  I thought that was a fair description.


P.S.  I also got rid of my Mini-Y ASAP.
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11/18/2004 9:18:23 PM EDT
[#15]
In the interest of maintaining harmony here I will forego my usual defence of the mighty mini-Y; I will not post any derogatory comments about "riflemen" who are frightened by loud noises...
11/20/2004 12:42:34 PM EDT
[#16]

One could just as easily point out the silliness of "riflemen" who only consider the merits of shooting on a range or in a match.

I am not interested in a rifle that only performs well in places and times when I can don my hearing protection.  If (god forbid) I must use my carbine in a home defense scenario, I doubt I will have time to put on my Peltors.  Therefore, I am not interested in a device that only has advantages in a three-gun match and can actually cause hearing damage if used in any other situation.

I have already damaged my hearing enough while in the Army, thank you.


At least, that is what I'd say if I wasn't interested in maintaining harmony here.
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