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8/11/2004 2:27:31 PM EDT
I just got a BFA but it's not like any kind I've seen. It's cylindrical and has a small lever on it. It is suppossed to be for the M16 but I have no idea how it works. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks!
8/11/2004 11:08:43 PM EDT
[#1]
Is it this one?

http://www.e-gunparts.com/images/adz/534380.jpg
8/11/2004 11:33:17 PM EDT
[#2]
That looks fairly similar to what I used Once Upon a Time.  I bet it’s a cousin to the square/box adapter when I was in The Service.
8/12/2004 5:05:29 AM EDT
[#3]
Judging by the picture, you would probably pull the rod up, slide on the bfa from the side, and clamp the rod down through the flas surpressor.
8/12/2004 5:30:59 AM EDT
[#4]
Yup.  Unscrew it, slip it into the groove in your flash hider, then screw the plug into the flash hider.  Why would you want this?

Every soldier I've ever talked to learned quickly to ditch their blanks in the field and NOT FIRE them thru their weapon if at all possible.  Cleaning up after that shit is a real pain.  They filthy the fuck out of your gun.
8/12/2004 10:44:42 AM EDT
[#5]
That might be an old type. The current ones are square shaped, RED for 20" barrels and YELLOW for 14.5" barrels with "m4 only" markings.
8/14/2004 9:24:06 PM EDT
[#6]
EdTo, That's it! It seems way to complicated for it's purpose. The current type is so easy, this one must be from the early 60's. I still haven't been able to find any info about this adapter though. Even my earliest M16 manuals show the current style. Only my 1971 Colt Product Manual shows one that's different, but it's not this one. Thanks guys for your help.
8/15/2004 12:43:13 PM EDT
[#7]
The one pictured looks like the BFA that's used in Britain and Canada. I've seen them in pictures of British soldiers on maneuvers using L85's and Minimi's. I've also seen them on Canadian soldier's C-7's(or C-8's?). I think the ones the British were using were bright yellow, that's what caught my attention to them, the bright yeller color.
8/15/2004 7:22:34 PM EDT
[#8]
No wonder I haven't seen or heard of these. They're not USGI. Thanks wittzo!
8/15/2004 8:06:41 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Every soldier I've ever talked to learned quickly to ditch their blanks in the field and NOT FIRE them thru their weapon if at all possible.  Cleaning up after that shit is a real pain.  They filthy the fuck out of your gun.


Amen!  It's so much easier to just reach up and tap the sensor on a MILES laser transmitter than it is to clean up the raw sewage those blanks leave in your rifle.  There are many blanks in many shallow graves in many, many undisclosed locations around the world.

As for that BFA, leave it to our cousins from across the pond to ridiculously over-complicate things...
8/17/2004 2:08:14 AM EDT
[#10]
The dutch army uses the Diemaco C7 and C8 rifles and have a round BFA.its not exactly the same one as this is.

BFA's are not allowed for private ownership in holland.


Eddie
8/17/2004 11:15:20 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
EdTo, That's it! It seems way to complicated for it's purpose. The current type is so easy, this one must be from the early 60's. I still haven't been able to find any info about this adapter though. Even my earliest M16 manuals show the current style. Only my 1971 Colt Product Manual shows one that's different, but it's not this one. Thanks guys for your help.



It is a Hollywood BFA. So you do not easily see the BFA in the film as you would if you used the standard issue BFA. But if you look closely, sometimes you can see it anyway.
8/17/2004 11:26:04 AM EDT
[#12]
All the hollywood BFA I've seen are the metal ones made to go between the flash suppressor and the crown of the barrel. A little metal plug made of copper thats gets crushed in there and has the correct sized hole to allow a flash, but with enough back pressure to function the gas system.
8/17/2004 7:43:48 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
The one pictured looks like the BFA that's used in Britain and Canada. I've seen them in pictures of British soldiers on maneuvers using L85's and Minimi's. I've also seen them on Canadian soldier's C-7's(or C-8's?). I think the ones the British were using were bright yellow, that's what caught my attention to them, the bright yeller color.




The BFAs for the M4 are also yellow, but they're the same design as the BFA (M13?  M15?) for the M16, just a larger gas hole.

I'd suspect this is British or Canadian.  US GI ones have been sheet metal cubes since the M16 was adopted.  There's a cylindrical BFA for the M249 SAW/LMG, but it has a conical end on it.
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