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4/7/2004 2:06:24 PM EDT
I'm gonna be getting an LMT 14.5" M4 upper from C4igrant probably and I'm trying to decide between one of the new phantoms or the Vortex....

He carries the vortex, I would have to send him a phantom for him to attatch it.

what would you choose?
4/7/2004 2:39:26 PM EDT
[#1]
Smith Enterprises Vortex.
4/7/2004 2:49:28 PM EDT
[#2]
The Vortex is a better FH, but the enclosed Phantom is less likely to catch on things.
4/7/2004 2:53:51 PM EDT
[#3]
I personally like the looks of the early-style Phantom (with the jagged end). I've never been a fan of the pronged Vortex, and I assume that they are still made that way. There was also a problem with some of the Vortex prongs breaking off, but I think that it was related to a bad batch and has since been corrected. There really isn't much of a difference in the two as far as performance is concerned.
4/7/2004 3:35:41 PM EDT
[#4]
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The Vortex is a better FH, but the enclosed Phantom is less likely to catch on things.
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Ditto, my vortex did a little better hiding flashes (not much), but I swapped mine out with a phantom b/c the vortex's prongs were catching onto things. You won't go wrong with either.
4/7/2004 3:52:27 PM EDT
[#5]
VORTEX ALL THE WAY! [:D]

C4

[url]www.gandrtactical.com[/url]
4/7/2004 4:01:24 PM EDT
[#6]
New Phantom FS with closed bottom!
4/7/2004 4:44:47 PM EDT
[#7]
I would go with a Phantom as it has a more traditional look.  I think they have one or two new models without the slot on the bottom now.
4/7/2004 5:10:32 PM EDT
[#8]
There are two new designs to the Phantom and they both incorporate the lack of downward facing ports which create a dust signature when shooting from the prone position.     [url]secure.valinet.com/~yankeeh/cgi-bin/web_store/web_store.cgi?page=misc.html&&cart_id=9148967_24305[/url] and
[url]secure.valinet.com/~yankeeh/products/YHM-28-5C2.jpg[/url]

4/7/2004 9:37:15 PM EDT
[#9]
Link not working- post some pics.
4/8/2004 12:28:55 AM EDT
[#10]
get a2 :D
4/8/2004 4:31:28 PM EDT
[#11]
I have the newest model Vortex-G6 on my carbine.  I don't loose sleep worrying about 0.27" of steel breaking. It appears to be very rugged.

I shoot Lake City XM193 ammo, which has an enoumous muzzle flash from post-ban carbines.  With the Vortex, there's almost no flash at all.  I guesstimate that it kills about 97% of the flash.  What is left is a faint, dull red glow.
4/8/2004 4:40:20 PM EDT
[#12]
I think I'm gonna go with the vortex....
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