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Posted: 11/1/2003 5:27:35 AM EDT
Are all fixed butt stocks the same length, or does someone make a fixed butt stock shorter than the standard issue? I have a tele. on an M4 now, but I would prefer a fixed stock. However, it's a tad long to get my proper cheek weld when shooting in heavy body armor. The tele. works fine when moved to the second to last position, but the storage in the fixed stock is a nice (and well used) accessory, and I never have to worry about the stock being in the right position when I grab it and go. Any options?
Link Posted: 11/1/2003 5:42:13 AM EDT
The A-1 buttstock is the one that I prefer and it's 5/8" shorther than the A-2 version. You could always go with the stubby stock which is the shortest fixed buttstock available and still remain legal. It's 3.25" shorther than the A-2.
Link Posted: 11/1/2003 5:47:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/1/2003 5:48:20 AM EDT by CJan_NH]
There are several options. I use an Ace shorty stock on my Colt M4 carbine, and two different recoil pads are available to change the length of pull. You can also get a shorty A2 style stock. Here are some pics of mine: I bought it [url=http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/buttstocks/skel-sh-stk.asp]here[/url] Standard 1/2" recoil pad: [img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/Ace2.JPG[/img] Optional 1" recoil pad [img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/Ace_extended.JPG[/img] And an RRA Entry length buttstock: [img]http://www.rockriverarms.com/images/stckentr.gif[/img] [url=http://www.rockriverarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=AR0074TK&storeid=1&image=stckentr.gif]Buy it here[/url]
Link Posted: 11/1/2003 6:17:12 AM EDT
Cool. Will changing the buffer spring affect the F/A performance?
Link Posted: 11/1/2003 6:26:12 AM EDT
Originally Posted By jimtash9: You could always go with the stubby stock which is the shortest fixed buttstock available and still remain legal.
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Not quite. You could use a shorter stock than the stubby and remain legal, but, the rifle may no longer function. The limiting factor for the stubby is that it uses the tele-stock buffer and spring. My 16" barreled rifle with the stubby-stock is quite a bit longer than 26".
Link Posted: 11/1/2003 6:45:07 AM EDT
If you have a functional tele stock on now- it uses the carbine length buffer and spring. A fixed (A1 or A2) stock would require a longer tube , buffer , and spring. The function would not be affected , but you would "feel" less recoil.
Link Posted: 11/1/2003 11:24:09 AM EDT
I am looking at getting a Sully Stock, from Defensive Edge.
Link Posted: 11/1/2003 11:29:56 AM EDT
I would recommend an A1, Cav Arms C1, or a Colt C7 (A1 length, A2 construction). All of these are 5/8" shorter than an A2. You might find the C7 here...[url]http://www.sawlesales.com/[/url]. Ask to speak to Ken and ask for the Colt short stock. The above link will probably start a shitstorm, but please try to refrain from turning this thread into a mosh pit.
Link Posted: 11/1/2003 1:30:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mcgrubbs: I am looking at getting a Sully Stock, from Defensive Edge.
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Greg Sullivan works for Annandale PD in Annandale, MN. E-mail off line if you would like his phone no. Russ
Link Posted: 11/1/2003 1:33:15 PM EDT
DEFINATELY go with the ACE ARFX-E Stock. I love mine! I got it from Del-Ton on the EE. Great guy great service!
Link Posted: 11/1/2003 2:12:12 PM EDT
Check out the MagPul Modular Stock - MagPul will make it a postban compliant stock at any position you request - and as an added bonus, they will convert it back to a telestock when the ban sunsets. I'll also bet money that it is as solid as any fixed stock out there.
Link Posted: 11/1/2003 2:25:35 PM EDT
CJan_NH, Can you tell us how long the ACE short stock is with the 2 different buttpads? Thanks Scott
Link Posted: 11/1/2003 5:35:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By watertower: CJan_NH, Can you tell us how long the ACE short stock is with the 2 different buttpads? Thanks Scott
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Certainly! From the front of the buttstock to the innermost concave portion of the recoil pad it is 8 1/4" long for the 1" pad and 7 3/4" long for the 1/2" pad [:)]
Link Posted: 11/1/2003 8:59:35 PM EDT
Thanks! I had that length with the stubby plus a 1" spacer. It's just too short for me. Guess I'll have to stick with the A1 until the AWB sunset, then get a collapsible. Scott
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