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Posted: 10/4/2003 12:05:48 PM EDT
Okay, I know that technically these are still Ar-15s and are designed for a very specific purpose, but at what point does too much bling or high-tech stuff
make it an entirely different firearm?








www.jprifles.com/NRA_HighPower.shtml

www.jprifles.com/menus_2.html
Link Posted: 10/4/2003 12:11:27 PM EDT
but thats what so great about the AR. a million different options for the SAME GUN.
Link Posted: 10/4/2003 12:12:53 PM EDT
Still looks like an AR15 to me - unless you get technical about if it's not a Colt, it's not an AR15... I guess when the full auto parts go in it stops being and AR15...
Link Posted: 10/4/2003 3:31:21 PM EDT
wow the rear sight for the third rifle looks like it s set for an intergalatic target and i like the level posted on the front sight that way you can make sure the bayonet goes in straight
Link Posted: 10/4/2003 3:41:50 PM EDT
Can we say "Pimp Ride"? ls
Link Posted: 10/4/2003 4:50:18 PM EDT
Whenever it isn't manufactured by Colt, because they have the trademark. Cheers!
Link Posted: 10/4/2003 6:12:05 PM EDT
This is a good question, At what point does it not qualify as an evil Assault rifle, thats a better one. Maybe if they were all neon blue and chrome from the manufacturers they would look harmless enough that the Gun-Haters will leave us alone. Then after we own them we can turn them into evil black rifles that we all love.
Link Posted: 10/4/2003 8:14:00 PM EDT
I thought Armalite was the true AR???
Link Posted: 10/4/2003 10:30:09 PM EDT
Just like a 1911, there is no end to the options.
Link Posted: 10/5/2003 1:24:00 AM EDT
that's what happens to AR15s when all those ricer kids turn 18 ~luvdamonkey
Link Posted: 10/5/2003 1:27:39 AM EDT
and if you notice on the brass deflectors they already have the birdman homie sights installed ~luvdamonkey
Link Posted: 10/5/2003 8:48:09 AM EDT
ArmaLite sold the AR-15 trademark to Colt. I guess you could make a good case that AR-15 is now "public domain" like "aspirin" is. I use it to describe all rifles of the class. When it's not an AR becomes a real philosophicl question. I'd say when the bolt, carrier, barrel extension, and gas system are dropped.
Link Posted: 10/5/2003 9:00:05 AM EDT
I like the rifles in the pictures. All of them look like AR's to me. Variety is the spice of life, ya know.
Link Posted: 10/5/2003 9:15:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By JMV: wow the rear sight for the third rifle looks like it s set for an intergalatic target and i like the level posted on the front sight that way you can make sure the bayonet goes in straight
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You do realize that these are custom built race guns for long range match shooting, not intended for 'social' uses?
Link Posted: 10/5/2003 9:15:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By thedr13: Those are some sharp lookin rifles!! Who sells accessories as those pictured?
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There are links at the bottom of the original post.
Link Posted: 10/5/2003 9:32:16 AM EDT
An AR15 will technically always be an AR15. 'Assault weapons' are semi auto rifles designated by feature count and once you remove enough named features it is just a semi auto rifle.
Link Posted: 10/5/2003 9:47:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2003 9:50:17 AM EDT by uglygun]
I use an older JP Enterprises upper assembly on my custom lower for shooting ground squirrels.... Talk about a serious piece of gear for dispatching squirrels at long range, with a pretty average handload the rifle averages around 3/4 inch for 10 shots at 100 yards. It's also reliable even considering the tight tolerances, have put as much as 400+ rounds through the thing in one day without so much as a hickup or a cleaning. A lot of people use rifles with the 16-18inch barrel options for use in 3gun or action rifle and the guns run great. JP Enterprises was out there doing it long before Wilson Combat or LesBaer got involved with slapping the things together and charging an arm and a leg based upon their name recognition. Back 6 years ago for a custom AR15 that was unique, pretty much the only recognizable companies out there were JP Enterprises and DPMS with lesser known folks like John Hollinger or Compass Lake. Here's a very old picture of what mine looked like shortly after assembly and before I refinished it. [img]http://home.bak.rr.com/varmintcong/jpar/oldcomp.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 10/5/2003 9:57:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Shadowblade: Still looks like an AR15 to me - unless you get technical about [red]if it's not a Colt, it's not an AR15...[/red] I guess when the full auto parts go in it stops being and AR15...
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[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=169847&w=searchPop[/url] Those are all KICK ASS rifles btw!
Link Posted: 10/5/2003 10:03:53 AM EDT
The AR-15 was banned BY NAME in 1994. So it quit being an AR-15 on September 14th, 1994. CRC
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