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Posted: 9/27/2003 12:23:46 PM EDT
I know about A2 and A3 configurations, but what is an A4? Thanks.
Link Posted: 9/27/2003 1:57:53 PM EDT
[#1]
I think A4 is what RRA and others call the A3 flattop config..........UNDERDOG
Link Posted: 9/27/2003 2:36:38 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
I think A4 is what RRA and others call the A3 flattop config..........UNDERDOG
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No, A4 is the replacement for the A2. I don't remember all of the details, but it's a 20" barrel, flat top, and has rails for handguards.
One of the experts will no doubt be along.
Link Posted: 9/27/2003 2:38:57 PM EDT
[#3]
I stand corrected..............
Link Posted: 9/27/2003 2:47:21 PM EDT
[#4]
Yes, the M16A4 is an M16A2 rifle with a flattop upper and is often equipped with a KAC RAS and other accessories.

The "A4" used by some AR manufacturers just points to a weapon with a flat top upper. Bushmaster uses A3 for example.
Link Posted: 9/27/2003 2:54:51 PM EDT
[#5]
Commercial AR15 designations dont match up well with the military's M16 variants.
Link Posted: 9/28/2003 2:10:30 PM EDT
[#6]
What Lumpy said.

In the miliary:

M16A3 = an M16A2 except that it has a safe/semi/auto selector instead of safe/semi/burst.

M16A4 = detachable carry handle version of the M16A2.  The USMC refcently decided to replace the M16A2s in use by infantry units with M16A4 models.  They have also decided to use Knights railed handguards on these rifles.  Non-infantry Marines will still be issued A2s.

In the civilian world every company can use whatever names they want for this stuff so A3 and A4 are pretty much interchangable.
Link Posted: 10/3/2003 3:01:12 PM EDT
[#7]
M16A4:

[IMG]http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/area51/M16A4-3.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/area51/larry%20002.jpg[/IMG]
Link Posted: 10/4/2003 3:21:11 PM EDT
[#8]
[img]http://dboy.cpgl.net/USA/M16/pi03a2.jpg[/img][img]http://dboy.cpgl.net/USA/M16/AT102802rcKuwait2C164AR127.jpg[/img]
[img]http://dboy.cpgl.net/USA/M16/AT102802rcKuwait1C164AR106.jpg[/img]
[img]http://dboy.cpgl.net/USA/M16/3rd-inf6.jpg[/img][img]http://dboy.cpgl.net/USA/M16/3rd-inf1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://dboy.cpgl.net/USA/M16/a4mc030121.jpg[/img]
[img]http://dboy.cpgl.net/USA/M16/3rd-inf5.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 10/4/2003 6:26:01 PM EDT
[#9]
Great pictures Lumpy, thanks!  I'm currently building a M16A4 replica (post-ban) and I was just trying to decide if I should free-float the barrel or not.  After seeing those photos I decided that I won't.
Link Posted: 10/6/2003 9:18:00 AM EDT
[#10]
AWESOME PICS LUMPY ,
I WOULD TAKE A M16A4 OVER A M4A1 ANYDAY.
Link Posted: 10/6/2003 7:41:37 PM EDT
[#11]
The guy on the very right is going to have some sever hearing deficiencies once that battle is over...


[img]http://dboy.cpgl.net/USA/M16/3rd-inf1.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 10/7/2003 12:18:44 AM EDT
[#12]
Link Posted: 10/7/2003 4:51:42 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:

In the military:

M16A3 = an M16A2 except that it has a safe/semi/auto selector instead of safe/semi/burst.

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Hmmmm.... Sounds more like an A1 with a sight & handguard upgrade.
Link Posted: 10/7/2003 8:57:06 AM EDT
[#14]
The perfect pic to prove that point when it comes to CQB and A2 stocks.  Guy on the left stuck with the A4 taking a precision shot stance because of the stock length.  The guy next to him with the M4 squared onto the target, arms locked down like he should be for close range shots:

[img]http://dboy.cpgl.net/USA/M16/a4mc021118.jpg[/img]

Note the last 2 in the line.  The far right guy is agressively forward, and the guy to left of him is doing the falling backwards girl stance because he's trying to do it right with that damn A2 stock.
Link Posted: 10/7/2003 8:57:35 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:

In the military:

M16A3 = an M16A2 except that it has a safe/semi/auto selector instead of safe/semi/burst.

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Hmmmm.... Sounds more like an A1 with a sight & handguard upgrade.
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You forgot the barrel, the flash hider, the buttstock, the pistol grip, the reinforced lower, the fence around the mag release, the shell deflector, the forward assist...

Hmmm.  I'm lazy and don't like to type any more than I have to so I think I'll stick to describing it as "an M16A2 except that it has a safe/semi/auto selector instead of safe/semi/burst."  
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