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Posted: 9/12/2003 4:24:02 PM EDT
Not necessarily a SHTF situation, but in light of homeland security and your bug out kit, you have a choice of weapon to accompany your 72hr supply. Think of all the scenarios. Your choice is between an M4, 12ga riot gun, .308 bolt rifle, or .45/9mm auto pistol. What'll it be and why?
Link Posted: 9/12/2003 4:27:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2003 4:27:42 PM EDT by die-tryin]
my slingshot, im not allowed to own a gun anymore, [;)]
Link Posted: 9/12/2003 4:28:00 PM EDT
Why such limited choices? A Yugo SKS, 500 rds on stripper clips..And a smile :)
Link Posted: 9/12/2003 4:49:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By martinTN: Not necessarily a SHTF situation, but in light of homeland security and your bug out kit, you have a choice of weapon to accompany your 72hr supply. Think of all the scenarios. [red]Your choice is between an M4, 12ga riot gun, .308 bolt rifle, or .45/9mm auto pistol. What'll it be and why?[/red]
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All of the above. [:)]
Link Posted: 9/12/2003 4:56:25 PM EDT
I'd go with the M4. The shotgun and pistol don't have the range and the .308 bolt action I would be to slow with if their was allot going on. The M4 has good range, fires quickly, is accurate and holds allot more rounds than the others. Second choice would be the shotgun to make sure I hit what I was aiming at and it has more scare factor.
Link Posted: 9/12/2003 5:45:58 PM EDT
12 gauge "Man rampages in suburban backyards wailing an Assault Rifle equipped with a 30 round hicapacity magazine and wearing MARPAT"
Link Posted: 9/12/2003 5:59:52 PM EDT
M-4!
Link Posted: 9/12/2003 6:01:31 PM EDT
M4, because it's all packed up and ready to go.
Link Posted: 9/12/2003 6:05:05 PM EDT
potato cannon w/ 5-10 bags of spuds, lawn chair, wheeled ice chest loaded down w/ shiner bock, your favorite cds, wait wait wait....what was the question?
Link Posted: 9/12/2003 6:11:24 PM EDT
SHTF mostly under 25 meters : 12 gauge General SHTF : M4gery or M16A4gery I think .308 bolt gun is out of question unless you have friendlies providing cover for you to concentrate on long range engagements.
Link Posted: 9/12/2003 6:33:24 PM EDT
M4,pistol(9mm,45) and the 12 guage. ammo is the easiest to obtain and is the best short med/long range combo) thats my SHTF list.
Link Posted: 9/12/2003 6:41:08 PM EDT
you do know that we have a survival forum...right? [url=http://ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=1&f=123]AR15.com Survival Forum[/url]
Link Posted: 9/12/2003 6:41:14 PM EDT
Board rules dictates that I choose the M-4. [:)] Seriously, you left out the best option - a .22 rifle.
Link Posted: 9/12/2003 6:43:54 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/12/2003 7:00:16 PM EDT
Autoloading pistol. Just because it's conceilable. If Bushmaster works the bugs out of the Carbon15 pistol... [img]http://www.gurpsmaster.de/carbon15.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 9/12/2003 7:04:29 PM EDT
You need something small and powerful. You need to be able to move quickly with as little to carry as possible. I'd take the 9mm. [image]http://mail.westerncom.net/~stevem/wp_239_800.jpg[/image][coffee]
Link Posted: 9/12/2003 7:05:40 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/14/2003 10:52:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CTCStrela: Why such limited choices? A Yugo SKS, 500 rds on stripper clips..And a smile :)
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Not intentional. About every shooter has at least some variant. Maybe not an M4, could be SKS. If not .308, then 30-06 or 30-30 deer rifle. Still thinking about the .22 rifle response...
Link Posted: 9/14/2003 11:44:30 AM EDT
I've never shot a 5.56 pistol like the bushmaster carbon 15 before, but i imagine you'd have quite an amount of barrel whip, making follow-up shots rather inaccurate.
Link Posted: 9/14/2003 11:51:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By FrankSquid: Autoloading pistol. Just because it's conceilable. If Bushmaster works the bugs out of the Carbon15 pistol... [url]http://www.gurpsmaster.de/carbon15.gif[/url]
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[beer]
Link Posted: 9/14/2003 12:05:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2003 12:06:39 PM EDT by Spooge5150]
Guys that little FN P90 was sweet. [url]http://www.militarycity.com/blackwater/videos.html[/url] 50 rounds..compact.. I like that gun. But..my m4 would be a definite. AND OF COURSE! I would have to have Chen Lee's "Accessory" in the last pic. [:D] [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=167569[/url]
Link Posted: 9/14/2003 5:23:12 PM EDT
Why can't you have a rifle and a pistol? A loaded pistol and a couple extra mags is going to weigh in around 4 pounds.
Link Posted: 9/15/2003 1:54:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Aimless: I'm not convinced that 5.56 out of that short barrel is terribly effective, beyond setting the enemy on fire with the muzzle flash. Velocity would be pretty low.
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[ROFL2] outstanding!
Link Posted: 9/15/2003 3:58:41 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Aimless: I'm not convinced that 5.56 out of that short barrel is terribly effective, beyond setting the enemy on fire with the muzzle flash. Velocity would be pretty low.
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LMFAO! No doubt, no doubt...I'd guesstimate it'd be approximately 22magnum velocity, with a pretty light show.
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