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Posted: 6/26/2003 5:19:44 AM EDT
I was wondering if a flashhider exhibits any muzzle brake qualities, such as reducing muzzle climb?  If not, then having a crowned muzzle is just as quick on followup shots as one with a flash hider, right?
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 6:10:46 AM EDT
[#1]
Depends on the unit.  The 'A2' birdcage is supposed to function as a flash hider and a compensator.  The military manuals even refer to it as a 'compensator'.

Neither the Vortex nor Phantom flash hiders have any muzzle brake qualities.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 6:56:40 AM EDT
[#2]
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Depends on the unit.  The 'A2' birdcage is supposed to function as a flash hider and a compensator.  The military manuals even refer to it as a 'compensator'.

Neither the Vortex nor Phantom flash hiders have any muzzle brake qualities.
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Forest, please correct me if I'm wrong here but exactly as the question is asked "I was wondering if a flashhider exhibits any muzzle brake qualities......" wouldn't that answer be NO as a flashhider (as opposed to a flash suppressor) is simply a conical shaped device that somewhat protects the shooter from his own muzzle flash ??
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 7:42:57 AM EDT
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[wouldn't that answer be NO as a flashhider (as opposed to a flash suppressor) is simply a conical shaped device that somewhat protects the shooter from his own muzzle flash ??
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Whoo Hoo! Good Catch - you're right on that!  However most newbies use the terms flashider and flash supressor interchangably so I 'assumed' (my mistake) he meant flash supressor.

Kinda like the difference between muzzle brake & compensator.  Many will use the terms interchangably until they learn the difference.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 7:58:00 AM EDT
[#4]
Newbie here :)  So what exactly are the differences between a flash hider/flash suppressor, muzzle brake/compensator?

On that note.  Which muzzle brake(compensator?) do you guys feel is best at controlling muzzle rise without directing too much gas/noise back at the shooter?
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 8:37:00 AM EDT
[#5]
Flash Hider: cone or tube over the muzzle to physically cover/hide the flash. Falsh Suppressor: Several designs but all work by rapidly dissipating (cooling) the hot gasses as they exit the muzzle before they can mix with the air and reignite (flash). Muzzle Brake/Compensator: A muzzle device that directionally forces the exit gasses in a desired direction to control muzzle rise or felt recoil. This is handy for a .50 Cal BMG cartridge Barrett, but strictly cosmetic for a 5.56mm. In a sitting position using the sling, I have unintentionally "milked off" a rapid second shot at 200 yd with 77 gr 5.56mm ammo and no muzzle device. The impact was 3" above the first. Having done this in the past with the M-14, the impact would be about 9"high. M-16 muzzle device = cute but not needed.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 9:11:24 AM EDT
[#6]
So since the term 'flash supressor' is the only term used in the AWB, this should mean it'd be legal to have a permanently attached A2 flash hider.  Funny how the democrats have no vocabulary.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 2:02:34 PM EDT
[#7]
So, write BATFE and ask for an opinion.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 3:22:34 PM EDT
[#8]
NO.
GG
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 3:41:39 PM EDT
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