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Posted: 6/21/2003 5:22:17 AM EDT
Newbie here. Wondering if you all can tell me the pros and cons to an HBAR. Thanks
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 5:52:52 AM EDT
Supposed to be more accurate than thinner pencil barrels, but you pay for it in weight.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 5:54:25 AM EDT
Pro: They heat up slower. Con: They're unnecessarily heavy for a 5.56
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 8:20:03 AM EDT
Cheaper for the manufacturer to produce is about the only real benefit of the HBAR. [;)] Unless you're planning on some extended full-auto fire, the lighter profile barrel has no negatives. Reprofiling HBAR's to a lightweight configuration is a mainstay of the AR gunsmithing community... [img]img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-3/122167/BCQLRVWSAKNVVYJDKUJS-KKF02.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 3:56:50 PM EDT
By your logic, the increase cost to manufacture, or re-work a HBAR, to light weight profile, would be a negative.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 7:18:03 PM EDT
I prefer the HBAR myself. I had the choice of building an M4gery or a 6721 copy -- I went with the 6721. If guys complain that a 16" HBAR carbine is too heavy, I think they should hit the gym... [baby]
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 7:27:45 PM EDT
They all start out fat. They are then turned down to HBAR, or A2, or pencil thin, as needed.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 8:07:29 PM EDT
Sorry, I know I'm new but I HATE the H-Bar. The whole reason I started my interest into M16's, AR15's etc. was because I admired how such a light-weight weapon was so powerful. Whenever I am in a gun shop, all they have to sell are H bars. Holding one is a pure contradiction to everything I've ever thought of regarding M16's (AR15's..) I'm a right handed shooter. Holding that gold-bar weight in my left hand seems completely ridiculous to me. I admit that if H-Bars weren't so popular, they wouldn't be stocked as they are in stores, but the FIRST consideration I had in looking for a firearm was LIGHT WEIGHT. Sorry, I may have pissed some people off here, but a heavy barrel ruins the whole point behind the M16/AR15 in MY opinion. I bought an M4 type which may not be the lightest, but it's like cotton compared to the 20" H-bars that people are buying now. Anthony
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 8:30:51 PM EDT
IMHO A2 Gov't balances a lot better.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 9:59:57 PM EDT
In carbine/CQB arms, the down side of the Hbar/ any added weight is the decrease in speed with which the weapon "points". Swinging more weight to "on target" decreases the speed w/ which "getting on target" can occur. The added inertia, however small, also makes slowing/stopping "on target" more diffficult. I don't think the real issue w/ Hbars is the added overall weight. It's the added mass/weight toward the muzzle of the weapon. Fighting arms should be as light as possible/practical for that reason. If its not a fighting arm, don't worry. Unless the added weight just bothers you.
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 5:39:52 AM EDT
My Colt 16" HBar [img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL99/1184889/2242371/27098843.jpg[/img] My Bushmaster 16" HBar turned down to LW specs with KKF A2 FFS/T installed. [img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL99/1184889/2242371/27098817.jpg[/img] I prefer Colts to Bushmasters hands down, but guess which one gets shot and which one spends most of its time in a gun sock in my safe?
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