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Posted: 6/13/2003 7:40:58 AM EDT
What can you tell me about the process? Is there a minimum number of weapons that need to be bought and sold each year to keep the license? Does anyone here have a FFL and live in NY because that's where I live. If you don't get the license, do you get the $200 application fee back? If you've already been fingerprinted (as I have, in TRIPLICATE, for my pistol permit) do you still need to have it done again?
Link Posted: 6/14/2003 7:17:41 AM EDT
No one???
Link Posted: 6/14/2003 7:34:39 AM EDT
You will need to send finger prints and picture ID with your application, and you need a store front. {a place of business} About the $200 application fee back, don't know. Check with your local BATF office.
Link Posted: 6/14/2003 8:08:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/14/2003 8:13:44 AM EDT by Calvert1]
[url]http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/nlc/index.htm[/url] Yes, you'll need to do the fingerprint procedure again. You'll need a storefront (no FFL sales out of your home. This used to be legal, but not anymore). There are no sales quotas. Sell 1000 rifles or sell none...ATF doesn't care as long as you fill out your paperwork properly. The $200 fee is non-refundable. Do your homework before you apply. If you don't think you qualify, don't bother with the app. The link above will answer most of your questions.
Link Posted: 6/14/2003 8:55:20 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Calvert1: There are no sales quotas. Sell 1000 rifles or sell none...ATF doesn't care as long as you fill out your paperwork properly.
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Have to wonder about that given that the renewal forms specifically asks how many firearms were received and disposed of each year of the previous three year license period.
Link Posted: 6/14/2003 10:15:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/14/2003 10:22:13 AM EDT by monkeyman]
Originally Posted By Calvert1: [url]http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/nlc/index.htm[/url] You'll need a storefront (no FFL sales out of your home. This used to be legal, but not anymore). .
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Not true. You have to obey all local and state ordinances including getting a business license, sales tax license etc. If the zoning laws in your town/city allows it, you can sell guns out of your home, primarily if you are just taking and filling orders.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 3:28:26 PM EDT
Meet zoning, tax exempt license, etc, huh ? Does that mean that I can get a Manufacturing license (C2 or C3) out of my basement, since I have my machine shop in my basement and live in the country where there is no zoning and I can open my door and test fire what I have just manufactured ? If I have a manufacturer's license, does that mean I can take one of the DEWATS and build it up so it shoots like it did when it came out of the factory ?
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 5:56:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By monkeyman:
Originally Posted By Calvert1: [url]http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/nlc/index.htm[/url] You'll need a storefront (no FFL sales out of your home. This used to be legal, but not anymore). .
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Not true. You have to obey all local and state ordinances including getting a business license, sales tax license etc. If the zoning laws in your town/city allows it, you can sell guns out of your home, primarily if you are just taking and filling orders.
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That isnt true. I have asked ATF about this and they specifically state that if you try to get an FFL you HAVE to have a storefront. The FFL's that work out of their homes are grandfathered in. I tried this route and was declined. Only reason, I was wanting to work out of my home.
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 12:18:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Calvert1: You'll need a storefront (no FFL sales out of your home. This used to be legal, but not anymore).
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Would you please provide a citation where you found this statement?
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 12:21:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DOA: That isnt true. I have asked ATF about this and they specifically state that if you try to get an FFL you HAVE to have a storefront.
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Provide citation, please, other than someone said... Your state or local laws might have not allowed it. I KNOW of people who recently got their FFL doing business out of their house...
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 8:24:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/22/2003 8:25:49 AM EDT by rickinvegas]
There is so much confusion on the storefront issue. All Clinton did was add a requirement that the business "did not violate state/local laws". Hell, the current application still has "HOTEL" as one of the options to check off describing the place of business!! Also, the $200 application fee IS refundable.
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 2:48:33 PM EDT
BATF in Indianapolis, IN repied via telephone that storefront is not necesarry, but must meet zoning. BATF on-line rules say that you need a "walk-in"door open to public. Confusing and discouraging. Local BATF,OTOH, says they are looking for a legitimate business, or at least a legitimate attempt to make a profit.
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