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Posted: 5/29/2003 7:43:23 PM EDT
How many of you are non-caucasian? How many you pasty white guys have black or Oriental shooting buddies?

I've been competitively shooting for about 25 years but I don't see many minorities out there. Maybe it is my area but we are about as etnically diverese as you can get.

I know many blacks who hunt but very few who compete in shooting.

My shooting club had a couple black members but they seem to have vanished. We do have a few Orientals but not many. We even have a Lesbian.

I don't think that is is the culture of the club, we had some bigotted rednecks but they were made unwelcome so they left.

What have the rest of you observed?

For the record, I'm blond, blue eyed and white.
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 7:51:01 PM EDT
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Here's a pic of a very good friend of mine. He's an NRA certified pistol instructor and a full-time RSO at a public range (that IS his day job). He competes in IPSC matches regularly and I've learned a lot from him. In the picture, he's holding a transferable 9mm M16 for a class 3 match we went to. If the S ever HTF, I'd hope to have a guy like him watching my 6. [img]members.aol.com/selectfire/images/2.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 7:57:04 PM EDT
Well, Let's see, I'm ½ Hispanic, my wife is caucasian, my children are ¾ breeds and we all shoot. What category would we fall into? BTW, my dad has blond hair & blue eyes.
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 7:58:17 PM EDT
AnyMouse: I will share my recent educational experience with you. People from Asia are Asiansm not Orientals. They used to be Orientals I know, but it is no longer correct to refer to Asians as Orientals. I was corrected by a Honkie, not an Asian, by the way.
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 8:45:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By shaggy: Here's a pic of a very good friend of mine. He's an NRA certified pistol instructor and a full-time RSO at a public range (that IS his day job). He competes in IPSC matches regularly and I've learned a lot from him. In the picture, he's holding a transferable 9mm M16 for a class 3 match we went to. If the S ever HTF, I'd hope to have a guy like him watching my 6. [url]members.aol.com/selectfire/images/2.jpg[/url]
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I am part Cherokee, a volunteer RSO, and will also watch your six if you need it.
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 8:59:19 PM EDT
I'm a pasty white dude, but my kids are half-asian, and they BOTH love to shoot (my daughter is ten, my son is eight). As a matter of fact, my son practices in the backyard with an Airsoft XM-177 at a bb-catcher I made for him that has been placed out behind the garage. Here's a silly picture of him with his "baby." No, he doesn't have any tattoo's: he and his sister were fooling around with skin paint prior to their bath. [img]http://www.burnerblog.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_2003-05-29%20006.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 9:02:21 PM EDT
I am Asian or Oriental if you prefer. Who cares? I don't. Hell, you can call me a gook if you want. I can't stop you and it aint gonna kill me. But if you talk about my mama, I'll kill you and your whole family. The hell with political correctness. It's gonna kill us.
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 9:10:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Fuego: AnyMouse: I will share my recent educational experience with you. People from Asia are Asiansm not Orientals. They used to be Orientals I know, but it is no longer correct to refer to Asians as Orientals. I was corrected by a Honkie, not an Asian, by the way.
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Sorry but I don't buy into that. No one calls us pasty white guys "European Americans," we're still "white."
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 9:15:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GI_Brat: Well, Let's see, I'm ½ Hispanic, my wife is caucasian, my children are ¾ breeds and we all shoot. What category would we fall into?
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Dunno. When I was a kid, Mexicans were considered white. I was very surprised one day when I was told by a Mexican co-worker that he wasn't white.
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 9:16:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By shaggy: Here's a pic of a very good friend of mine. He's an NRA certified pistol instructor and a full-time RSO at a public range (that IS his day job).
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Damn, that sounds like a fun job. How do I get one?
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 9:18:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Orange_Neck: But if you talk about my mama, I'll kill you and your whole family.
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You mother was obviously a wonderful woman to raise a child of such tolerance. There, I did it, I talked about your mama. I'm waiting for you!
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 9:21:04 PM EDT
They are not Asian or Oriental they are Mongoloids.
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 9:50:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/29/2003 9:53:57 PM EDT by Potter_Sherman_T]
Most of my close IPSC pals are white guys... but at major matches there's a pretty good cross section of ethnicities... Asian, Filipino... but no African Canadians as I think about it... and no Lesbians either... but I'm pretty sure that the guy that beat me at Sunday's match is a fag... least that's what I called him anyway... [8D] And DevL... "Mongoloid" more correctly / specifically refers to the physical characteristics of Asiatic peoples from Mongolia... STP.
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 11:21:17 PM EDT
And DevL... "Mongoloid" more correctly / specifically refers to the physical characteristics of Asiatic peoples from Mongolia...
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Not quite right. "Mongoloid" as an adjective refrers to the racial characteristics notable in . . . well, Asians; epicanthic folds, black hair and yellowish skin. However, Mongoloid, as a noun refers to a person who is member of the racial group with Mongoloid features. Nowadays, use of all the "oids" has fallen out of favor so we no longer may say Caucasoid, Negroid, or Mongoloid.
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 11:23:40 PM EDT
One of my most enjoyable shooting buddies "god rest his soul" was an elderly man from mexico. I could not say he was hispanic, or mexican american, or any other term. He was a friend. I think anyone who you dont know on the level could be called a minority. I dont care for statistics, or who is out numbered. I know I am guilty of judging people sometimes but I never judge a fishing buddy, or a shooting buddy. I might give em a rashon of $hit sometimes but its all fun & games... You never know whats going on is some peoples minds these days, and I certainly try to read people since the 911 tragedy. It's funny how life was so simple as a kid, Soon did I realize that the kids were the real people, and the grown ups were the screwed up people... But things have changed since I was a kid and I would give anything to do it all over again, and I would not change a thing... I actually think that I am a minority sometimes, with all of the crap that we hear about these days... Not too many good ol' boys around these days. Well except here that is... Do not know what I would have done without all my Brothers from the east to square my actions... God Bless Prosise
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 11:48:30 PM EDT
not too many of them way up here in northern WI. i've seen a couple guys at the range and all seemed like nice people..except the asian kid that swept me with his rifle, but that has nothing to do with race. mostly really old dudes where i go.
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 1:26:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AnyMouse:
And DevL... "Mongoloid" more correctly / specifically refers to the physical characteristics of Asiatic peoples from Mongolia...
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Not quite right. "Mongoloid" as an adjective refrers to the racial characteristics notable in . . . well, Asians; epicanthic folds, black hair and yellowish skin. However, Mongoloid, as a noun refers to a person who is member of the racial group with Mongoloid features. Nowadays, use of all the "oids" has fallen out of favor so we no longer may say Caucasoid, Negroid, or Mongoloid.
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Caucasoid sounds like some sort of insult. Funny terms. Caucasian Android, Negro Android, Mongolian Android...you get the idea.
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 2:02:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/30/2003 2:10:18 AM EDT by M4_Aiming_at_U]
AnyMouse, What range do you belong to? What part of MD are you in? When you get a chance you should check out out Maryland Hometown Forum. We have a lotta good guys there and we could use one more. We have a few events going to, if you care to join us! So stop by and say hello! [beer] Oh by the way, My girlfriend shotos and she is Asian!
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 4:39:42 AM EDT
Pasty skinned white man here. Never shot with anyone of a different ethnic background, mainly because the only ones I know that own guns, own them illegally, so no real desire to go shooting with em. None are ever at the range, must say I'm kinda glad, since most of the young black kids these days are running around calling themselves thugs and being just as obnoxious as they can be - even if their daddy is a wealthy white collar worker. Sure might just be a phase, but I'm glad I'm not part of their phase. The rest of the ethnic people at work think guns are evil, some from haiti and cuba wouldnt even consider owning one. Ironic that.
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 7:21:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/30/2003 7:23:13 AM EDT by Cutter75]
We have all kinds here in Mid-Mo... Frankly, after 9/11, race(which has never been an issue with me - ever) or racial differences has diminished IMHO, because when I go to the range I'm shooting with AMERICANS... We all need to get this - If, or When, the SHTF we(Americans) will have to watch each others 6... And I personally hope ALL Americans band together "as one" when it becomes necessary... Oh... I'm white, blond, blue-eyed, with some Cherokee blood... [sniper2]
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 7:52:33 AM EDT
I got 2 Korean kids, my son is 16, my daughter is 12. They both shoot rifle better than anybody I know. They're still working on pistol and shotgun skills. Their mother (the MRS) doesn't like guns, or shooting but she tolerates it in spite of being a socialist/commie/pinko. But I got lots of toys in spite of her opinions. The kids have their own .22's and each has a COlt SAA in .45.
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 8:07:51 AM EDT
My understanding of race is that there are only three, Caucasian, Mongoloid and Negro (I may not be using the proper tense though). I think classification has more to do with bone structure than with skin color. As for me, I'm light green with many dark green buddies and am far from being racist. I can't stand it in any form, whether it's redneck bigotry or affirmative action/quotas. Regards, L'man[marines]
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 9:32:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/30/2003 9:32:54 AM EDT by vote_republican]
Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U: AnyMouse, What range do you belong to? What part of MD are you in? When you get a chance you should check out out Maryland Hometown Forum. We have a lotta good guys there and we could use one more. We have a few events going to, if you care to join us! So stop by and say hello! [beer] Oh by the way, My girlfriend shotos and she is Asian!
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Just saw this. I'm in the People's Republic of Montgomery County. Do you have a link for the MD hometown Forum?
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 9:35:54 AM EDT
Im white but back in WI we used to have some Hmong (Vietmanese) shooters at the range.
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 11:04:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By vote_republican:
Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U: AnyMouse, What range do you belong to? What part of MD are you in? When you get a chance you should check out out Maryland Hometown Forum. We have a lotta good guys there and we could use one more. We have a few events going to, if you care to join us! So stop by and say hello! [beer] Oh by the way, My girlfriend shotos and she is Asian!
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Just saw this. I'm in the People's Republic of Montgomery County. Do you have a link for the MD hometown Forum?
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Sure here ya go! Click the Flag! [url=http://ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=8&f=29&w=myTopicPop][img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=11961[/img][/url] We are having a cookout soon, hopefully you can join us.
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 11:35:01 AM EDT
Well, I'm a pasty white guy and my favorite shooting partner is the little Chicano (I guess politically correct is now Latino) I married 27 years ago. Just can't get her to go as often as I do. My son and daughter are firearm owners also, they just don't shoot as much.
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 12:24:38 PM EDT
Well I'm 1/2 Hispanic which makes my dad 100% Hispanic (1/2 Mexican, 1/2 Spanish). My mom is Caucasian (mainly German) and my skin came out looking white [:D]. Anyways, I learned to shoot from my dad since he is a Vietnam vet (USMC Force Recon). Unfortunately, I'm the biggest shooter and gun freak in the family, although my dad isn't too far behind.
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 12:34:36 PM EDT
I am not white. I have some pigment, so I'm more pinkish than white. Unless I've been in the sun, then I'm either red or tan. I usually check "Other" on forms, and write in "Bohmeian", as my father's family came over from Bohemia in the 19th century. Fun to skew the stats a bit. [nana] "Homo Sapien" is another good write in. I could also check "Native American" as I was born here, after all. Or, if I'm feeling really frisky when some PC monkey asks for my "race" I give them the works: "Czecho-Franco-Canadian-Anglo-Germanic-Celtic-American Person of Pinkness." They're all meaningless classifications, and the names don't mean squat. Popeye got it right "I yam what I yam."
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 1:00:57 PM EDT
ancestry---blackfoot-south american native-northern european--Girlfriend----limey and texas redneck..........shooting buddies....shit sometimes it looks like a UN function.spics, wops, chinks, gooks, lawyers, irish, brazilians, germans....we need a couple more darker colors to add to the bunch of pastels....maybe some negroes or maori or persians.....anybody else see how stupid this is.....we just all be gunsmoke grey........
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 1:11:40 PM EDT
Hmmm.. I'm 100% Asian; parents came over and had me in the US of A.. I do mostly shoot with Occidentals [:D], though. My suspicion is that you're going to be seeing more Asians in the shooting sports since previous generations were 1st gens from countries devoid of gun rights; younger Asians also tend to gravitate towards technical persuits such as engineering, which as many are aware, is a heavy gun interest profession.
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 1:43:54 PM EDT
Ima short,cocky little irish kid....outta the 5 guys i shoot with the most 4 of them are african americans...Is that the PC term nowadays?...Never really thought of them as "blacks" ....just my friends.....and i would trust any of them with my 6.....Maybe not my lady but my back YES..................UNDERDOG
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 2:10:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Not_A_Llama: My suspicion is that you're going to be seeing more Asians in the shooting sports
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You are right on the money! I have many friends that have only been here for a year or two from China and they love to shoot guns and talk guns! Also, when I was over in China they could not imagine the stuff we Americans are allowed to own, and they could not wait till they got here to shoot, buy and customize firearms.
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 2:14:32 PM EDT
AnyMouse, it is Asian, not oriental...very racist word. It's like calling your black friends negros, do you still say that? I hope not.
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 2:38:06 PM EDT
armoredsaint, take it easy on AnyMouse. It's just a spoken word, right? I am not trying to speak for all Asians in this country. I don't have time to care about what people call me. No one should get into any altercations over empty words. However, if someone's actions interfere with my right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, I will try my hardest to shoot him between the eyes before he does it to me.
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 4:24:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By armoredsaint: AnyMouse, it is Asian, not oriental...very racist word. It's like calling your black friends negros, do you still say that? I hope not.
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Got news for you, black is racist as well. We're supposed to call blacks "African American." For the record, I call my black friends black, negro, colored, etc.. It seems that everyone has a PC name for their group but us poor white guys. If you look for an insult, you'll find one. Reminds me of a "sensitity awareness seminar" that my employer sent me to about 10 years ago (required for all managment). We were being told the names that we are supposed to use. "Physically challenged" came up and a fellow stands up and declares the whole thing to be "horse pukey," as he speaks he waves his hook and says that he's not "challenged", he's crippled. Shocked the heck out of the PC teacher.
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 4:39:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:
Originally Posted By Not_A_Llama: My suspicion is that you're going to be seeing more Asians in the shooting sports
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You are right on the money! I have many friends that have only been here for a year or two from China and they love to shoot guns and talk guns! Also, when I was over in China they could not imagine the stuff we Americans are allowed to own, and they could not wait till they got here to shoot, buy and customize firearms.
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Not all of 'em, Huh ?
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 5:27:34 PM EDT
The range I shoot at is on the outskirts of East St. Louis Illinois. There is also an Air Force base not too far away. The ethnic diversity at the range is about as total as it gets. All I see there are a bunch of folks enjoying a common interest. BTW In the winter I am whale-belly white, but this time of year I start to get a little color of my own. The wife is American indian. DILBERT_556
Link Posted: 5/30/2003 7:49:52 PM EDT
im jewish and according to some of my relatives the europeans said we wasnt white but according to my shooting buddies (chinese, irish,nigerian)im white. this race thing is kinda confusing but im learning to deal with it. i have to agree with one poster though. i was born in the usa so im native american and that is how im going to answer from now on. god bless america and keep her free
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