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3/8/2003 7:20:50 PM EDT
Are they safe to shoot in a Bushmaster M4? And do I haft to wory about starting fires if I shoot them?
3/8/2003 8:02:49 PM EDT
[#1]
yes, & yes.
3/8/2003 8:28:35 PM EDT
[#2]
They won't hurt your Bushmaster but I wouldn't recommend shooting too many tracers without mixing it up. In the military we usually go four rounds, then one tracer with two/three tracers at the bottom if you want a visual warning that your mag is empty. I know these weapons can handle a much higher tracer ratio without damage as long as you clean it right away.
3/9/2003 6:27:06 AM EDT
[#3]
I've helped put out more than one fire at Ft. Carson ranges
that were started by tracers
             
         [pyro]
3/9/2003 9:12:00 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
They won't hurt your Bushmaster but I wouldn't recommend shooting too many tracers without mixing it up. In the military we usually go four rounds, then one tracer with two/three tracers at the bottom if you want a visual warning that your mag is empty. I know these weapons can handle a much higher tracer ratio without damage as long as you clean it right away.
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Who told you that? tracers wont damage anything {on your weapon}and you can shoot 3 mags solid of tracers only danger to your gun would be if it was laying in dried up grass that was ignited by the tracers.
3/9/2003 10:17:25 AM EDT
[#5]
Some know-nothing publication mentions this.  I think it's called the FM23-9:

Soldiers should avoid long-term use of 100-percent tracer rounds. This could cause deposits of incendiary material/chemical compounds that could cause damage to the barrel. Therefore, when tracer rounds are fired, they are mixed with ball ammunition in a ratio no greater than one-to-one with a preferred ratio of three or four ball rounds to one tracer round.
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3/9/2003 12:56:45 PM EDT
[#6]
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Some know-nothing publication mentions this.  I think it's called the FM23-9:

Soldiers should avoid long-term use of 100-percent tracer rounds. This could cause deposits of incendiary material/chemical compounds that could cause damage to the barrel. Therefore, when tracer rounds are fired, they are mixed with ball ammunition in a ratio no greater than one-to-one with a preferred ratio of three or four ball rounds to one tracer round.
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Long term usage is way more than 3 mags. Also when a round goes thru the barrel it would push out any deposit. not giving a chance to build up.
GG
3/9/2003 3:26:11 PM EDT
[#7]
Originally Posted By Gun Guru:
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They won't hurt your Bushmaster but I wouldn't recommend shooting too many tracers without mixing it up. In the military we usually go four rounds, then one tracer with two/three tracers at the bottom if you want a visual warning that your mag is empty. I know these weapons can handle a much higher tracer ratio without damage as long as you clean it right away.
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Who told you that? tracers wont damage anything {on your weapon}and you can shoot 3 mags solid of tracers only danger to your gun would be if it was laying in dried up grass that was ignited by the tracers.
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Gun Guru, I'm going by what I learned in the service. It's common knowledge that you can't shoot a lot of tracers without potentially damaging your weapon, and cleaning after high count tracer firing is highly recommended. BTW thanks for the reply El_Roto.
3/9/2003 4:54:32 PM EDT
[#8]
Originally Posted By Gun Guru:
3 mags solid of tracers
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ROFLMAO! [%|]

Always trust the FM.
3/9/2003 7:22:52 PM EDT
[#9]
Jeepers, I thought yes, & yes answerd his questions just fine, & dandy.[%|]
3/9/2003 7:55:53 PM EDT
[#10]
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Originally Posted By Gun Guru:
3 mags solid of tracers
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ROFLMAO! [%|]

Always trust the FM.
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What you never have done it? @ $12 a box I can afford it.
GG
3/10/2003 6:01:06 PM EDT
[#11]
Just to offer my experience...using a chrome-lined barrel, I've had no ill-effects while expending ~2500 FMJ and ~800 tracers over a two day period.  All of the tracers were loaded 100% per mag (some Beta dumps).  The barrel had no ill effects when I cleaned it about 2 weeks later.

I did dump a 30 rd FMJ mag through each night after the tracers just to help, but I'm not convinced it's needed.

BTW, for you TX guys going to the farm, have you seen a F/A beta dump w/ 100% tracers?

You just might be able to this time!!!![:d]
3/11/2003 9:47:05 AM EDT
[#12]
Tracer lights outside of the barrel, where you going to get build up? Do watch the dry conditions, we were shooting 30 Cal tracer from a bolt gun, and started a small fire in some debris/brush we were shooting at...had washer solvent bottles set up on fallen brush from the electric company trimming the power line across property.
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