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Posted: 11/27/2002 7:03:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2002 7:10:14 AM EDT by ptaylor]
I am flying home to the family ranch for thanksgiving. I'm taking my AR for some fun shooting. Should I have any problems with all the ammo I'm taking. The ammo will all be in a checked bag with most of my clothing seperated from my guns as per airline instruction. I will be flying united. From montana to texas. Besides the bag weight should I have any problems? I've flown with guns lots of times but never so much ammo (estimated 400rds).
Link Posted: 11/27/2002 7:28:34 AM EDT
Hello, We just had a bonehead try to fly out of Hartsfield with a 9mm handgun in his carry on. Needless to say they nabbed him and now he is in the Clayton Cty jail. Duh I forgot it was in there.. his excuse. So your question peaked my interest. I realise you asked about checked luggage but this FAQ pretty much covers it: Regards Dave Bodkin Cumming, GA. ------------------------------------------- Q. What items are prohibited beyond the passenger screening checkpoint? A. The FAA prohibits airlines from allowing dangerous or deadly items through the passenger screening checkpoint. Because of the subjective description of dangerous or deadly items, it is the airline's responsibility to determine what they will allow. Most airlines will prohibit items such as scissors, trade tools, and items resembling firearms. The following are prohibited from being carried beyond the checkpoint: Knives of any length, composition or description Cutting instruments of any composition or description, including carpet and box cutters, (and spare blades) Any device with a folding or retractable blade Ice picks Straight razors Metal scissors Metal nail files Corkscrews Baseball bats Golf clubs Ski poles Hockey sticks Items which may be transported: Walking canes Umbrellas Nail clippers Safety razors Syringes (with documentation of medical need) Tweezers and eye lash curlers. * Man: attacked with eye lash curler.... news at 11. Just joking folks :-) Q. I want to carry a firearm with me on my trip. What should I do? A. The FAA requires passengers carrying firearms in checked baggage to declare that firearm to the airline. Firearms must be unloaded, and in a lockable container suitable for air transportation and the bag is checked in at the ticket counter. In addition, we recommend that you contact your airline to determine any airline specific requirements. Q. What is the regulation that covers the carriage of firearms? A. Title 14, Code of Federal Regulations, Section 108.11, covers the carriage of firearms. Part 108.11 may be found on the FAA's web site at http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/cfrhtml_00/Title_14/14cfr108_00.html. Same goes for ammo. It must be in checked luggage there is a maximum allowed too....
Link Posted: 11/27/2002 7:35:43 AM EDT
Just declare the item and you have to check it in. They will ask you to show that it is unloaded. Best bet disassemble the rifle. They don't know what to look for. Make sure it is in a good locked case. Good Luck and Happy Thanksgiving. Max
Link Posted: 11/27/2002 7:38:12 AM EDT
Also, some airlines require that the ammo be in its original container. ie, they want to see a commercial ammo box. If your bringinig reloads, just stop by the local rifle range and snag some empty boxes from the trash. I think they told me 100 rounds per firearm was the limit but they didn't count mine.
Link Posted: 11/27/2002 7:40:15 AM EDT
Also, some airlines require that the ammo be in its original container. ie, they want to see a commercial ammo box. If your bringinig reloads, just stop by the local rifle range and snag some empty boxes from the trash. I think they told me 100 rounds per firearm was the limit but they didn't count mine. My luggage is kept in the garage where I keep all my empty brass (lots and lots of it). It must have powder residue on it, I'm sure everything in the garage does. However, when they swiped it, nothing showed up. I was suprised...mabey all that fancy detecting gear is just all show...
Link Posted: 11/27/2002 7:43:24 AM EDT
Thanks for the info. I know most of the regulations regarding checked guns in lockable cases etc. Have checked my rifles on most of the big commercial airlines. However, I am more interested in the problems I might have with the ammo. I have never packed more than a couple boxes, now I have close to 400rds. Most airline policy that I am familiar with states that the ammunition must be separated from the weapons. Therefore I plan on packing it in with my clothing, in my other checked bag. Hope this clarifies.
Link Posted: 11/27/2002 7:45:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2002 7:46:05 AM EDT by notack]
most airlines provide "Firearms" boxes, that are foam lined and clearly marked.Ask about one.
Link Posted: 11/27/2002 7:46:43 AM EDT
Slacker, you answered my question exactly! Very much appreciated. I too was worried about powder residue but you have eased by worries. Have a happy thanksgiving.
Link Posted: 11/27/2002 7:54:24 AM EDT
From [url=http://www.united.com/page/article/0,1360,1035,00.html]United Airlines Restricted Artcles Page[/url] [b]Firearms Federal regulations require that firearms in checked baggage or in their own shipping case be unloaded and declared. Firearms are not allowed in carry-on bags. Firearms in checked baggage must be packed in a hard-sided bag or gun case. A maximum of 11 lbs. of small arms ammunition is allowed in checked luggage and must be packed separately from the firearm in the original manufacturer's box or securely packed in a fiber, wood, or metal box to prevent movement of cartridges. [/b]
Link Posted: 11/27/2002 7:57:30 AM EDT
Receiving correct answers to my questions. That is why I love this site. Thanks red-leg.
Link Posted: 11/27/2002 1:52:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2002 2:03:57 PM EDT by StarAtari]
Originally Posted By Red-Leg: From [url=http://www.united.com/page/article/0,1360,1035,00.html]United Airlines Restricted Artcles Page[/url] [b]A maximum of 11 lbs. of small arms ammunition is allowed in checked [/b]
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I know this is a stupid question but I just want to clearify. 5.56mm is considered amunition for 'small arms' correct? Also, is there an age limit to be able to carry a firearm in your checked luggage or can a 15 kid flying alone have an AR-15 in his luggage as long as he follows the requirements.
Link Posted: 11/27/2002 5:24:37 PM EDT
Yes, 5.56mm is considered small arms ammunition. As to your second question, I don't know. In many states, it's illegal for anybody under the age of 18 to own or be in the posession of (without adult supervision) a rifle. Therefore, unless the person is legally able to own the weapon, I wouldn't chance it.
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