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2/13/2017 12:12:35 PM EDT
I was reading the instructions for my Super Precision mounts and noticed the torque spec is 15-18 in/lb for the ring caps.

I use 25 in/lb for most my rings and I have a 25 in/lb torque limiter for making sure it's tightened correctly.  If I use 25 in/lb will it damage the mount? Is there a specific reason y'all chose 15-18 in/lb over 25?

Do I need to buy a new torque limiter?

Thanks.
2/16/2017 6:34:29 PM EDT
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@GACS
Any word?
2/17/2017 3:38:09 PM EDT
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Hi Jaqufrost,

The engineers who designed the Super Precision Optic Mount came to that number, I think they thought that more torque wasn't necessary to meet the specifications and performance of the mount.

I would personally stay within spec to be covered. I hope this helps.
2/28/2017 2:36:17 AM EDT
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I was reading the instructions for my Super Precision mounts and noticed the torque spec is 15-18 in/lb for the ring caps.

I use 25 in/lb for most my rings and I have a 25 in/lb torque limiter for making sure it's tightened correctly.  If I use 25 in/lb will it damage the mount? Is there a specific reason y'all chose 15-18 in/lb over 25?

Do I need to buy a new torque limiter?

Thanks.
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Nightforce used to say 15 inch-pounds. They raised it to 25 because people like you kept being concerned about it. They never had a single failure from a properly mounted optic at 15.
Badger is adamant about 15 inch-pounds.
Hakaan Spuhr is also a low-torque guy.
Andrew Bobro advises 18 as a max, when you contact him.

Leupold advises 25-28 for their MK6/MK8 series. I used a Leupy mount on one of my MK series optics, and I did not harm the optic, but I personally feel it was too tight. It now wears a G mount at 18.

When you punch that data into the calculator, you would be STUNNED at how many hundreds of pounds you are exerting on that scope tube at 15-18.
3/1/2017 2:13:13 PM EDT
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Thanks for the input JohnDough.  I guess it's time to order the 15in/lb torque limiter.
3/2/2017 8:25:09 AM EDT
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Thanks for the input JohnDough.  I guess it's time to order the 15in/lb torque limiter.
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Honestly, I think a Wheeler FAT is "precise" enough for this operation. I torque my G mounts to 18 in-lb. It's not going to harm a quality military type optic like a NF or Leupold in the least, and it is sufficient to hold it still for sure.
3/2/2017 8:35:16 AM EDT
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I've got a CDI in/lb wrench I use at home. The torque limiter is for my field kit.
3/2/2017 12:23:50 PM EDT
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I've got a CDI in/lb wrench I use at home. The torque limiter is for my field kit.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57761/20170105-222457-120434.jpg
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For us OCD types, specs on this kit you put together and what gear you use it for.  Thanks!
3/2/2017 10:00:45 PM EDT
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Here is another picture showing the contents. It has a 65 in/lb and 25 in/lb torque limiter (fix it sticks). I've got a set of torx bits, hex bits, kobalt mini ratchet, loctite vial and Larue lever adjustment wrench. I use it for my Geissele, Nightforce and Larue mounts so I can RTZ the mounts and fix any problems in the field. I've also added two ball allen drivers for adjusting the gas blocks on my Creedmoors. The bag is from a GDI Acog mount that I bought cheap.


Here is a picture of my Geissele mount that I used with my Razor that arrived today.
3/2/2017 10:15:46 PM EDT
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Here is another picture showing the contents. It has a 65 in/lb and 25 in/lb torque limiter (fix it sticks). I've got a set of torx bits, hex bits, kobalt mini ratchet, loctite vial and Larue lever adjustment wrench. I use it for my Geissele, Nightforce and Larue mounts so I can RTZ the mounts and fix any problems in the field. I've also added two ball allen drivers for adjusting the gas blocks on my Creedmoors. The bag is from a GDI Acog mount that I bought cheap.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57761/20170105-222545-120435.jpg

Here is a picture of my Geissele mount that I used with my Razor that arrived today.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57761/20170302-192211-1-157609.jpg
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I need to put something similar together - thanks for posting the details.
3/2/2017 11:29:23 PM EDT
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Here is another picture showing the contents. It has a 65 in/lb and 25 in/lb torque limiter (fix it sticks). I've got a set of torx bits, hex bits, kobalt mini ratchet, loctite vial and Larue lever adjustment wrench. I use it for my Geissele, Nightforce and Larue mounts so I can RTZ the mounts and fix any problems in the field. I've also added two ball allen drivers for adjusting the gas blocks on my Creedmoors. The bag is from a GDI Acog mount that I bought cheap.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57761/20170105-222545-120435.jpg

Here is a picture of my Geissele mount that I used with my Razor that arrived today.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57761/20170302-192211-1-157609.jpg
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Nice kit, and yeah, those what were they, $49? ACOG mounts...they killed what little bit of cache GDI had left, for me.
3/2/2017 11:32:01 PM EDT
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I bought several of the GDI mounts. I think their USMC contract got cancelled. The last two I bought were $36 each.
3/3/2017 5:06:12 AM EDT
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I bought several of the GDI mounts. I think their USMC contract got cancelled. The last two I bought were $36 each.
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That is correct. I just wonder if they sold at-cost, or for a loss.

Just installed a Leupold MK6 in the Geissele AR10 mount. I could not find a SOCOM SR25 mount anywhere, and it makes me a very sad panda, but the difference is really only meaningful to a nerd, compared to the AR10 mount's dimensions.

I did not know this, but Leupold can actually make you a dial for your MK6 that conforms to your BC, DA, pick any zero distance, and temperature. It cost me $80, because sadly the "First one is free..." apparently does not apply to a MK6. The gentleman who took my information at Leupold asked me "Are you ready to order?", and I said "Yes, I have all of the data you will require", and he immediately launched into "Height above bore?" "BC of projectile?" "Density Altitude?" "Temperature of expected deployment?" "Preferred zero distance? Meters or yards?". When I asked him questions about the DA and temperature, his answers were on point and very helpful. I don't know if all of them are that switched on over there at Leupold, but I like my interaction so far!