Posted: 5/30/2014 10:13:34 AM EDT
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I just picked up a barely used SD3G on EE. The seller included all packaging as well as screenshots of the original invoice from Brownells. I can tell this trigger has barely been used as the hammer face still has 99% of it's finish. Serial number looked good and I am convinced this is a real Geissele (so I am not calling the authenticity of the product into question). Anyways, I installed it in a brand new Noveske Gen 2 lower and immediately noticed that something was different when cocking the hammer using my thumb. There is a great deal of metal on metal rub compared to my other 6 geissele triggers. Relevant installation notes. - Cleaned and degreased SD3G upon delivery - Verified correct Geissele pins (dimples) - Cleaned inside of brand new Noveske Gen 2 lower (non-chainsaw) - Mounted disconnector inside SD3G trigger and confirmed that disconnector spring was installed with fat side seated in trigger - Applied Shell 33MS to all wear surfaces on trigger/disconnector - Installed SD3G tigger portion using a couple drops of oil on the trigger pin - Visually inspected for correct installation of trigger spring - Applied Shell 33MS to all wear surfaces on hammer - Installed hammer correctly using a couple of drops of oil on the hammer pin - Visually inspected for correct hammer spring orientation - Visually inspected that hammer spring leg was laying across groove on trigger pin If you have the sound turned up on the video, you can easily hear the issue in question. Also, the hammer travels back a shorter distance on the newer SD3G before making any metal-to-metal contact. New trigger - Noveske lower Older trigger - AXTS lower  So my question is... Is this normal? I don't remember any of my Geissele's ever feeling like this. Also, did production methods change for these triggers? None of my other Geisseles have the circular forge marks. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! |
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I just picked up a barely used SD3G on EE. The seller included all packaging as well as screenshots of the original invoice from Brownells. I can tell this trigger has barely been used as the hammer face still has 99% of it's finish. Serial number look good and I am convinced this is a real Geissele (so I am not calling the authenticity of the product into question). Anyways, I installed it in a brand new Noveske Gen 2 lower and immediately noticed that something was different when cocking the hammer using my thumb. There is a great deal of metal on metal rub compared to my other 6 geissele triggers. Relevant installation notes. - Cleaned and degreased SD3G upon delivery - Verified correct Geissele pins (dimples) - Cleaned inside of brand new Noveske Gen 2 lower (non-chainsaw) - Mounted disconnector inside SD3G trigger and confirmed that disconnector spring was installed with fat side seated in trigger - Applied Shell 33MS to all wear surfaces on trigger/disconnector - Installed SD3G tigger portion using a couple drops of oil on the trigger pin - Visually inspected for correct installation of trigger spring - Applied Shell 33MS to all wear surfaces on hammer - Installed hammer correctly using a couple of drops of oil on the hammer pin - Visually inspected for correct hammer spring orientation - Visually inspected that hammer spring leg was laying across groove on trigger pin If you you have sound turn up on the video, you can easily hear the issue in question. Also, the hammer travels back a shorter distance on the newer SD3G before making any metal-to-metal contact. New trigger - Noveske lower Older trigger - AXTS lower  http://youtu.be/kcjxT4SCvqI
So my question is... Is this normal? I don't remember any of my Geissele's ever feeling like this. Also, did production methods change fort these triggers? None of my other Geisseles have the circular forge marks. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Without inspecting it first hand and seeing the surfaces up close, i would say that this is expected and normal. Since our 3 gun series triggers are single stage, they have a much higher sear engagement for safety purposes, which roughly translates to much more material rubbing together. These are our only triggers like that, so if you have not previously owned one of our 3 gun triggers than it wont feel like the other ones you have. I would say you are good to go, and hopefully you got a sweet deal. If everything has passed a safety check, try running some rounds out of it, and let us know if you find any issues but i dont expect any. |
| I wouldn't be concerned about the rubbing that you're feeling when cocking back the hammer; it should smooth out with time. Additionally, the way you're resetting the trigger is not how the trigger normally resets during live fire. When the hammer cocks back as the BCG moves back, your finger should still be on the trigger for the follow-through making the hammer engage the disconnector and not the trigger. If done like this, you wouldn't even get the rubbing that you're feeling. |
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I just picked up a barely used SD3G on EE. The seller included all packaging as well as screenshots of the original invoice from Brownells. I can tell this trigger has barely been used as the hammer face still has 99% of it's finish. Serial number look good and I am convinced this is a real Geissele (so I am not calling the authenticity of the product into question). Anyways, I installed it in a brand new Noveske Gen 2 lower and immediately noticed that something was different when cocking the hammer using my thumb. There is a great deal of metal on metal rub compared to my other 6 geissele triggers. Relevant installation notes. - Cleaned and degreased SD3G upon delivery - Verified correct Geissele pins (dimples) - Cleaned inside of brand new Noveske Gen 2 lower (non-chainsaw) - Mounted disconnector inside SD3G trigger and confirmed that disconnector spring was installed with fat side seated in trigger - Applied Shell 33MS to all wear surfaces on trigger/disconnector - Installed SD3G tigger portion using a couple drops of oil on the trigger pin - Visually inspected for correct installation of trigger spring - Applied Shell 33MS to all wear surfaces on hammer - Installed hammer correctly using a couple of drops of oil on the hammer pin - Visually inspected for correct hammer spring orientation - Visually inspected that hammer spring leg was laying across groove on trigger pin If you you have sound turn up on the video, you can easily hear the issue in question. Also, the hammer travels back a shorter distance on the newer SD3G before making any metal-to-metal contact. New trigger - Noveske lower Older trigger - AXTS lower http://youtu.be/kcjxT4SCvqI
Sounds weird. Send it in with a note and let us look at it. On the note say Bill wants to look at it So my question is... Is this normal? I don't remember any of my Geissele's ever feeling like this. Also, did production methods change fort these triggers? None of my other Geisseles have the circular forge marks. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! |
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USPS wont let me ship to the address listed on your website. I had the same problem on Friday. USPS said the street was wrong. That said, they accepted it anyway. I hope my rail makes it there! Use 800 East Walnut Street, North Wales PA 19454. If you used 800 North wales road, it would make it here no problem, the local postal service knows whats up. But nothing about the USPS is quick when it comes to updating its address databases. |
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To update the thread, I was contacted by Geissele staff today and informed the the SD3G trigger I sent them had the wrong disconnector installed. They are taking care of the issue. It goes without saying the Bill runs a tight ship and has a customer service department on par with the best in the industry. Lesson to be learned: Make sure you thoroughly check out potential purchases on EE. Ask for detailed pictures and a paper trail if possible. This might mean that you miss out on an item b/c someone else jumps at an attractive asking price, but at least you'll reduce your risk to getting a Franken-product. Geissele was under no obligation to "repair" my issue. Had they chose not to, I still would purchase their products. It would just have ended up being a good kick in the pants for me and made me more wary of the goods on EE. Thanks Bill (and company)! |