Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM

X5.7!!!! (Page 3 of 4)

Previous Page
/ 4
Next Page
9/23/2024 12:43:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ZF-1][Edited] [#1]
I would think MLOK would be the default with a pic top rail? Or is it some kind of optional cover?

But yes some clarification would be good.
Now a real killer, when he picked up the ZF1, would have immediately asked about the little red button on the bottom of the gun.
9/23/2024 4:16:18 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote History
Originally Posted By CFletch:
I'd be shocked if they were. The original ones were not rails into mlok on the side with the mlok nut, but a wrap-around thing that very closely followed the contours of the front of the frame, and was secured on the bottom but not the sides. Those might not look removable if you didn't see the bottom where the bolts would be, especially if they've made them even slimmer in newer versions.

I guess it's possible they decided to go full rail, but that would seem to be a step backwards and I'm not sure what the benefit would be for doing so.

@PalmettoStateArmory Josiah, can you answer this question for us?
View Quote


It is still being developed, so I would keep an eye out for the videos on our youtube channel as well as SHOT show.

Thank you,

Josiah
Palmetto State Armory
3760 Fernandina Rd
Columbia, SC 29210
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
11/13/2024 12:16:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9divdoc][Edited] [#3]
Quote History
Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus:


Thx. Shorter barrels need more more robust suppressors iirc. My friend has a YHM suppressor for 5.7 but it’s only rated for 10” and longer. I’m curious what suppressor was displayed on the prototype x5.7 at shotshow 24?

The picatinny rail is chunky. Hopefully there is a mlok option  

https://i.ibb.co/McPft9y/IMG-4931.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/gMWW1yd/IMG-4930.webp
View Quote



Really could use that 5.7 ASAP ...

Just bought 20 mags
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
11/30/2024 5:26:17 PM EDT
[#4]
I am waiting on a Rock 57 to see how this turns out.
Now a real killer, when he picked up the ZF1, would have immediately asked about the little red button on the bottom of the gun.
12/4/2024 4:05:28 PM EDT
[#5]
2025 q1 draws near….. soon….
12/15/2024 3:26:10 PM EDT
[#6]
2 questions, since I know more info has come out since the thread began.

Does the barrel reciprocate? I'm wondering what sort of suppressor interface will be needed. Basically, does it need a booster or can we use a fixed QD mount for a 5.56mm k-can (so I can swap my k-can between this and ARs)?

Can you share the exact operating mechanism yet? Is it simple blowback, delayed blowback, a short-stroke recoil locked-breech, etc.?
Participation in the rights of citizenship presumes participation in the duties of citizenship
12/16/2024 10:40:40 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote History
Originally Posted By CFletch:
2 questions, since I know more info has come out since the thread began.

Does the barrel reciprocate? I'm wondering what sort of suppressor interface will be needed. Basically, does it need a booster or can we use a fixed QD mount for a 5.56mm k-can (so I can swap my k-can between this and ARs)?

Can you share the exact operating mechanism yet? Is it simple blowback, delayed blowback, a short-stroke recoil locked-breech, etc.?
View Quote


Please stay subscribed to our Youtube channel and info coming from SHOT. We will be sharing the latest updates there.

Thank you,

Josiah
Palmetto State Armory
3760 Fernandina Rd
Columbia, SC 29210
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
1/1/2025 1:53:34 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote History
Originally Posted By Luckystrike:
2025 q1 draws near….. soon….
View Quote


It is now QTR 1
"The villainy you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction"
1/2/2025 10:01:44 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote History
Originally Posted By cyclone:


It is now QTR 1
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Originally Posted By cyclone:
Originally Posted By Luckystrike:
2025 q1 draws near….. soon….


It is now QTR 1



Please stay subscribed to our Youtube channel and info coming from SHOT. We will be sharing the latest updates there.

Thank you,

Josiah
Palmetto State Armory
3760 Fernandina Rd
Columbia, SC 29210
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
1/6/2025 12:23:16 PM EDT
[#10]
For those of us who reload, will the x57 be picky about the coating on 5.7 cases? I've read some platforms need it more than others.
1/15/2025 5:21:59 PM EDT
[#11]
PSA X5.7 - Product Update | Palmetto State Armory


Sounds like they're hoping for a summer launch.
1/15/2025 5:32:23 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote History
Originally Posted By Joosyan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mC9LGC5QyY

Sounds like they're hoping for a summer launch.
View Quote


Cool. I still want one, by why not just make the mlok hand guard standard?
1/22/2025 7:58:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Milspec99][Edited] [#13]
I saw 2025 shot show footage and honestly I liked it better with the polymer receiver/upper.  

I was pretty stoked about it and now I'm kinda meh.  That's just me though.
1/22/2025 8:00:42 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote History
Originally Posted By bkpkr:

why not just make the mlok hand guard standard?
View Quote


Agreed.
1/26/2025 7:28:01 PM EDT
[#15]
In the Shot Show video with Hop @ TFB TV what suppressor was on the gun?
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
1/26/2025 7:57:44 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote History
Originally Posted By Milspec99:


Agreed.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Originally Posted By Milspec99:
Originally Posted By bkpkr:

why not just make the mlok hand guard standard?


Agreed.


Same
1/26/2025 7:58:27 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote History
Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
In the Shot Show video with Hop @ TFB TV what suppressor was on the gun?
View Quote
AAC Element 3.
1/26/2025 8:03:07 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote History
Originally Posted By Gtscotty:


Same
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Originally Posted By Gtscotty:
Originally Posted By Milspec99:
Originally Posted By bkpkr:

why not just make the mlok hand guard standard?


Agreed.


Same


Also me
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
1/26/2025 8:03:43 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote History
Originally Posted By D_Man:
AAC Element 3.
View Quote

thanks
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
5/10/2025 10:54:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Hey guys, summers upon us. Any updates on the release?
5/10/2025 11:02:18 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote History
Originally Posted By bkpkr:


Cool. I still want one, by why not just make the mlok hand guard standard?
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Originally Posted By bkpkr:
Originally Posted By Joosyan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mC9LGC5QyY

Sounds like they're hoping for a summer launch.


Cool. I still want one, by why not just make the mlok hand guard standard?


I'd rather have that than the railed one
"The villainy you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction"
5/13/2025 9:58:33 AM EDT
[#22]
Waiting for updates……


It’s almost summer….
6/9/2025 9:19:22 PM EDT
[#23]
Yup
6/20/2025 3:31:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9divdoc][Edited] [#24]
Today is the official start of Summer
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
7/8/2025 2:35:04 PM EDT
[#25]
I seem to recall there being two options for barrel length, or am I mistaken?
https://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Propositions-J-S-Economos/dp/0615997635
7/10/2025 11:46:44 PM EDT
[#26]
Originally Posted By Willow_Drifter:
BOOOOOM! Love you guys, PSA!

https://i.imgur.com/hcJZl9d.jpeg

SO MUCH EPICNESS! SEE HERE AT PSA!
View Quote


Whatever happened to all those other firearms?
"The villainy you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction"
7/12/2025 11:13:20 AM EDT
[#27]
Any updates??
7/12/2025 4:27:52 PM EDT
[#28]
7/12/2025 5:52:01 PM EDT
[#29]
Attached File
https://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Propositions-J-S-Economos/dp/0615997635
7/12/2025 5:53:09 PM EDT
[#30]
@palmettostatearmory
7/14/2025 10:30:23 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote History
Originally Posted By cone256:
@palmettostatearmory
View Quote


Keep an eye out on PSA social media for updates.

Thanks,

Josiah
Palmetto State Armory
3760 Fernandina Rd
Columbia, SC 29210
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
8/5/2025 4:36:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Miles_Urbanus][Edited] [#32]
PSA just posted on social media to “not to expect it before Q1 2026”
PSA X5.7 - August 2025 Product Update | Palmetto State Armory
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." --Col. Jeff Cooper
8/7/2025 1:28:23 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote History
Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus:
PSA just posted on social media to “not to expect it before Q1 2026” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfk5OLCDyIE
View Quote



I’m 100% ok with the delay. I really want PSA to get this right when it first ships.
8/7/2025 3:03:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CFletch][Edited] [#34]
Quote History
Originally Posted By ALostKey:



I'm 100% ok with the delay. I really want PSA to get this right when it first ships.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Originally Posted By ALostKey:
Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus:
PSA just posted on social media to "not to expect it before Q1 2026" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfk5OLCDyIE



I'm 100% ok with the delay. I really want PSA to get this right when it first ships.
yeah, better a well-developed and reliable product later than a dodgy one sooner

Can we get weight specs?

Participation in the rights of citizenship presumes participation in the duties of citizenship
8/8/2025 10:56:55 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote History
Originally Posted By ALostKey:

I'm 100% ok with the delay. I really want PSA to get this right when it first ships.
View Quote

I reckon we gotta be good with it because that's what's happening, lol.

Also, I thought I heard something about a longer barrel being an option, which I'd be interested in since I wanna run my AEM5 on it. Of course that would require dismantling it to have the barrel cut back and properly set up... Might just be time to splurge for a thread-on pistol can after all.
https://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Propositions-J-S-Economos/dp/0615997635
8/20/2025 11:51:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: K1LLD33R][Edited] [#36]
Was there any info on what rifling twist the barrel will have?

Wanted to post a consideration to make if possible, about subsonic bullet weights being successfully stabilized in the final production. Weights ranging 55-62gr.
Though less common right now, my thoughts are that there is significant utility in subsonic 5.7x28mm. Worthwhile enough to select an appropriate twist rate to stabilize heaver than standard 5.7, while still within the margin l that it reliably does with supersonic ammo...

1:9? 1:8? 1:7 even?
The correct twist, or even if it's a realistic consideration at all to accomodate both may be left to those smarter than I, and thank you


ETA

@palmettostatearmory

However,
If you skip to 6:25, he shows round holes on target with 62gr. Fiocchi with all of his test guns. The twist rate of the CMMG MK57 he refers to is assumed as 1:9 twist
5.7x28mm, 62gr FMJ, Fiocchi Range Dynamics (57sub62)
8/20/2025 11:54:47 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote History
Originally Posted By K1LLD33R:
Was there any info on what rifling twist the barrel will have?

Wanted to post a consideration to make if possible, about subsonic bullet weights being successfully stabilized in the final production. Weights ranging 55-62gr.
Though less common right now, my thoughts are that there is significant utility in subsonic 5.7x28mm. Worthwhile enough to select an appropriate twist rate to stabilize heaver than standard 5.7, while still within the margin l that it reliably does with supersonic ammo...

1:9? 1:8? 1:7 even?
The correct twist, or even if it's a realistic consideration at all to accomodate both may be left to those smarter than I, and thank you


ETA

@palmettostatearmory
View Quote
The Rock barrels are 1:10, so I'd assume that unless they say otherwise.
11/14/2025 8:44:57 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote History
Originally Posted By ALostKey:



I’m 100% ok with the delay. I really want PSA to get this right when it first ships.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Originally Posted By ALostKey:
Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus:
PSA just posted on social media to “not to expect it before Q1 2026” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfk5OLCDyIE



I’m 100% ok with the delay. I really want PSA to get this right when it first ships.



The wailing and whining about this on Facebook is all over the place........."We dont want clones, we want the X5.7"!
"The villainy you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction"
11/26/2025 3:02:41 PM EDT
[#39]
Closing in on 2026, Q1. Does the chat think we're finally gonna see this thing drop?


https://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Propositions-J-S-Economos/dp/0615997635
12/6/2025 5:07:28 PM EDT
[#40]
Aight, well, what suppressor are you guys planning to run on this thing?
https://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Propositions-J-S-Economos/dp/0615997635
12/7/2025 12:29:31 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote History
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Aight, well, what suppressor are you guys planning to run on this thing?
View Quote
DA Mask. It won't make it really quiet but it'll take some of the edge off. Maybe my Wolfman in shorty config if I want quieter.
Participation in the rights of citizenship presumes participation in the duties of citizenship
12/7/2025 5:37:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Manticore_Arms][Edited] [#42]
Quote History
Originally Posted By cyclone:



The wailing and whining about this on Facebook is all over the place........."We dont want clones, we want the X5.7"!
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Originally Posted By cyclone:
Originally Posted By ALostKey:
Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus:
PSA just posted on social media to “not to expect it before Q1 2026” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfk5OLCDyIE



I’m 100% ok with the delay. I really want PSA to get this right when it first ships.



The wailing and whining about this on Facebook is all over the place........."We dont want clones, we want the X5.7"!



The average poster on Facebook does not understand that multiple products can be in the development and manufacturing pipeline concurrently; that simpler projects can often launch sooner; or that engineering and T&E take time, especially on a ground up product.

Sven
Manticore Arms
Advanced Fighting Gear for the AR, AK, AUG, Tavor, and Scorpion EVO! www.manticorearms.com
12/10/2025 10:05:36 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote History
Originally Posted By CFletch:
DA Mask. It won't make it really quiet but it'll take some of the edge off. Maybe my Wolfman in shorty config if I want quieter.
View Quote
Is the AAC Ti-Rant 9M/HD still a top-tier option? That's the one I'm looking at. I find suppressed pistols to be sorta unnecessary for me, but I'd like something I can do both with.
https://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Propositions-J-S-Economos/dp/0615997635
12/10/2025 11:11:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CFletch][Edited] [#44]
Quote History
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Is the AAC Ti-Rant 9M/HD still a top-tier option? That's the one I'm looking at. I find suppressed pistols to be sorta unnecessary for me, but I'd like something I can do both with.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By CFletch:
DA Mask. It won't make it really quiet but it'll take some of the edge off. Maybe my Wolfman in shorty config if I want quieter.
Is the AAC Ti-Rant 9M/HD still a top-tier option? That's the one I'm looking at. I find suppressed pistols to be sorta unnecessary for me, but I'd like something I can do both with.
Not sure about that can, but I wish I'd skipped the multi-use cans and just gotten good rifle and pistol cans. Which is what I ultimately did after I got a multi-use can that I ended up turning into a dedicated PCC/short rifle can. A can that does both is too heavy to be great on a pistol and too overbore to be great for a 5.56mm rifle.

One of the new 3D printed titanium B&T 5.56mm cans are what I'd get if I was getting one now, and the ECCO TLX for a pistol can. A heavy pistol can is just not very fun.
Participation in the rights of citizenship presumes participation in the duties of citizenship
12/10/2025 11:31:28 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote History
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Closing in on 2026, Q1. Does the chat think we're finally gonna see this thing drop?

https://media1.giphy.com/media/Lk023zZqHJ3Zz4rxtV/200.webp?cid=8dc8958cnuwvz8ykumuciwlfipvuftbfug9amwn0cidmop4b&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200.webp&ct=g
View Quote


Sir, I ask you: Has PSA ever failed to release something they teased?

12/10/2025 3:11:53 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote History
Originally Posted By CFletch:
Not sure about that can, but I wish I'd skipped the multi-use cans and just gotten good rifle and pistol cans. Which is what I ultimately did after I got a multi-use can that I ended up turning into a dedicated PCC/short rifle can. A can that does both is too heavy to be great on a pistol and too overbore to be great for a 5.56mm rifle.

One of the new 3D printed titanium B&T 5.56mm cans are what I'd get if I was getting one now, and the ECCO TLX for a pistol can. A heavy pistol can is just not very fun.
View Quote
Well I don't yet have a pistol-cal can, but I have two dedicated 5.56 cans (Knight's NT4 QDSS and the AEM5), plus a Knight's 7.62 CRS. So I won't need this one for .300B or 5.56 or .308; TBH, I kinda find suppressed pistols a bit unnecessary for me. I still want the option, but this can will likely see 5.7mil majority of the time, along with some 9mil.
https://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Propositions-J-S-Economos/dp/0615997635
12/10/2025 4:43:12 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote History
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Well I don't yet have a pistol-cal can, but I have two dedicated 5.56 cans (Knight's NT4 QDSS and the AEM5), plus a Knight's 7.62 CRS. So I won't need this one for .300B or 5.56 or .308; TBH, I kinda find suppressed pistols a bit unnecessary for me. I still want the option, but this can will likely see 5.7mil majority of the time, along with some 9mil.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By CFletch:
Not sure about that can, but I wish I'd skipped the multi-use cans and just gotten good rifle and pistol cans. Which is what I ultimately did after I got a multi-use can that I ended up turning into a dedicated PCC/short rifle can. A can that does both is too heavy to be great on a pistol and too overbore to be great for a 5.56mm rifle.

One of the new 3D printed titanium B&T 5.56mm cans are what I'd get if I was getting one now, and the ECCO TLX for a pistol can. A heavy pistol can is just not very fun.
Well I don't yet have a pistol-cal can, but I have two dedicated 5.56 cans (Knight's NT4 QDSS and the AEM5), plus a Knight's 7.62 CRS. So I won't need this one for .300B or 5.56 or .308; TBH, I kinda find suppressed pistols a bit unnecessary for me. I still want the option, but this can will likely see 5.7mil majority of the time, along with some 9mil.
I'd still go with the TLX for half the weight
Participation in the rights of citizenship presumes participation in the duties of citizenship
12/12/2025 6:44:13 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote History
Originally Posted By CFletch:
I'd still go with the TLX for half the weight
View Quote
The OCL Lithium 9 looks pretty dang good too. Whatcha reckon?
https://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Propositions-J-S-Economos/dp/0615997635
12/13/2025 1:59:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CFletch][Edited] [#49]
Quote History
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
The OCL Lithium 9 looks pretty dang good too. Whatcha reckon?
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By CFletch:
I'd still go with the TLX for half the weight
The OCL Lithium 9 looks pretty dang good too. Whatcha reckon?

a bit heavier but more robust, and still very light. $200 more expensive. Still looks good. I'd still go with the lighter TLX since neither will be a great rifle can. For context, ECCO says that for the TLX the number of 16" 5.56mm shots per minute before reaching a temp that is not safe for Ti is... 2. Per Minute. The Lithium has more mass but not that much more. Just use a real rifle can, and let the pistol can be optimized for pistols, which to me means lightweight.

Either will be fine for 5.7mm, since even a lot of rimfire cans can handle it (though they are like 5.56mm k cans, in that they take the edge off but don't really make it quiet). A 9mm or 5.56mm should do a lot more to quiet a 5.7mm than one of those.
Participation in the rights of citizenship presumes participation in the duties of citizenship
1/1/2026 4:56:51 PM EDT
[#50]
2026 check? We have flying cars now BTW.

Sign up to continue the discussion

Create a free account to share your thoughts, follow topics, and connect with the AR15.COM community.

Already a member? Sign In

Previous Page
/ 4
Next Page

X5.7!!!! (Page 3 of 4)