X5.7!!!! (Page 2 of 4)
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Originally Posted By d16man: It is based on the rock, but it is its own gun, not a chassis. Watch any of the countless videos people at SHOT have made. That concept model is a 3d print, not the full production model. Originally Posted By d16man: Originally Posted By November5: Originally Posted By d16man: Originally Posted By Gtscotty: Hard to verify peering through the ejection port, but I really hope the x5.7 is it's own carbine as opposed to a long barrel Rock in a chassis. It is its own, not a chassis. The model at SHOT is 3d printed, not the final production model. It is based on the rock, but it is its own gun, not a chassis. Watch any of the countless videos people at SHOT have made. That concept model is a 3d print, not the full production model. |
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Originally Posted By weapons_free: ~.50/end same as 5.56. I've seen it for slightly less recently Originally Posted By weapons_free: Originally Posted By Shinji_Ikari: Hmmm, how much is 5.7 ammo? ~.50/end same as 5.56. I've seen it for slightly less recently Fiocchi 5.7 40gr for around $0.39/round. |
 PSA MP7 at Home, Krink, Vuk, & MORE at Shot Show 2024 The youtuber Fit'n Fire is saying that the X5.7 is delayed blowback like the Rock, in a comment under this video. "It IS delayed blow back like the Rock. Exactly the same operation system as the Rock" |
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Originally Posted By tranzformer: Fiocchi 5.7 40gr for around $0.39/round. Originally Posted By tranzformer: Originally Posted By weapons_free: Originally Posted By Shinji_Ikari: Hmmm, how much is 5.7 ammo? ~.50/end same as 5.56. I've seen it for slightly less recently Fiocchi 5.7 40gr for around $0.39/round. Decent ammo too IMO. The AAC has been underwhelming for accuracy from my Rock & S&W. Then again, everyone shits on the AE but I've had zero issues with it over a 1,000 or so rds so what do I know? 
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Originally Posted By zpduff: Well that is guaranteed not to happen Originally Posted By zpduff: Originally Posted By chevrofreak: I would like to see this in 30 Super Carry Well that is guaranteed not to happen |
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@PalmettoStateArmory PSA needs to pick up the patent from Crye and build their 300blk PDW so i don't have to....  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By RDTCU: @PalmettoStateArmory PSA needs to pick up the patent from Crye and build their 300blk PDW so i don't have to.... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173511/Crye_US11105574_01_png-3109323.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173511/Crye_US11105574_06_png-3109328.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173511/Crye_US11105574_03_png-3109326.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173511/Crye_US11105574_12_png-3109327.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173511/Crye_US11105574_02_png-3109331.JPG This would be amazing. |
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Originally Posted By RDTCU: @PalmettoStateArmory PSA needs to pick up the patent from Crye and build their 300blk PDW so i don't have to.... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173511/Crye_US11105574_01_png-3109323.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173511/Crye_US11105574_06_png-3109328.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173511/Crye_US11105574_03_png-3109326.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173511/Crye_US11105574_12_png-3109327.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173511/Crye_US11105574_02_png-3109331.JPG Thats amazing. |
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While the X5.7 looks really neat, I'll believe it when there are actually some available for reasonable prices on the open market. Currently, they say around 12 months...but that could just be PR for the SHOT show., and we won't actually see them showing up for sale for 18-24 months with any reasonable availability. But they sure look neat. Many of the items at the SHOT show are like concept cars at car shows...most never really make it into production because they are primarily to gauge public reaction. Testing public reaction sure makes sense though. |
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Originally Posted By Genin: While the X5.7 looks really neat, I'll believe it when there are actually some available for reasonable prices on the open market. Currently, they say around 12 months...but that could just be PR for the SHOT show., and we won't actually see them showing up for sale for 18-24 months with any reasonable availability. But they sure look neat. Many of the items at the SHOT show are like concept cars at car shows...most never really make it into production because they are primarily to gauge public reaction. Testing public reaction sure makes sense though. They've done ground-up products like the Rock before, so they must have sources/resources. |
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Originally Posted By GamecockOperator: I feel just as happy as you about this.. however it cant be that much of a stretch for them to just go ahead and make it a 50 round magazine so you can use one box of ammo per magazine. i mean heck we're only 10 rounds off.. comeon psa!! more ammo capacity = goodness. I love this x5.7 but she does need some tweaking in the looks dept on her.. to keep the highpoint off of her. Got to market folks! |
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I like it, but it could take a couple of styling ideas from that 3D printed one that was posted in the other survey thread. And RDTCU, we all know you'd love to have another one off creation to post every chance you can and make the rest of us insanely jealous- do it! 
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic: I like it, but it could take a couple of styling ideas from that 3D printed one that was posted in the other survey thread. And RDTCU, we all know you'd love to have another one off creation to post every chance you can and make the rest of us insanely jealous- do it! Well since you said so i guess I'll get started... 😆 Attached File |
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Originally Posted By RDTCU: Well since you said so i guess I'll get started... 😆 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173511/PXL_20230201_042830962_jpg-3112861.JPG I've got faith in you- you can make it look as good as the .45. ETA- Their Aberdeen Project ought to reach out to you. |
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic: ETA- Their Aberdeen Project ought to reach out to you. Attached File I would love to have the time, tools and backing to bring (firearms related) ideas to life for a living... Money isn't everything but pay would have to be pretty good to get me to leave the pay/stability/future in my current position FN is about to move in practically next door as well... |
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Originally Posted By DWFAN: Decent ammo too IMO. The AAC has been underwhelming for accuracy from my Rock & S&W. Then again, everyone shits on the AE but I've had zero issues with it over a 1,000 or so rds so what do I know? Originally Posted By DWFAN: Originally Posted By tranzformer: Originally Posted By weapons_free: Originally Posted By Shinji_Ikari: Hmmm, how much is 5.7 ammo? ~.50/end same as 5.56. I've seen it for slightly less recently Fiocchi 5.7 40gr for around $0.39/round. Decent ammo too IMO. The AAC has been underwhelming for accuracy from my Rock & S&W. Then again, everyone shits on the AE but I've had zero issues with it over a 1,000 or so rds so what do I know? I have also had poor accuracy from the AAC ammo. I think I am done buying it. |
| Did a barrel length for the X5.7 ever get revealed? I’ve searched around a bit but couldn’t find anything. Looks like around 6 or 7 inches maybe? |
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Originally Posted By Ebolinux: Don’t remember ever hearing anything about that. Originally Posted By Ebolinux: Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus: Did a barrel length for the X5.7 ever get revealed? I’ve searched around a bit but couldn’t find anything. Looks like around 6 or 7 inches maybe? Don’t remember ever hearing anything about that. Thx. Shorter barrels need more more robust suppressors iirc. My friend has a YHM suppressor for 5.7 but it’s only rated for 10” and longer. I’m curious what suppressor was displayed on the prototype x5.7 at shotshow 24? The picatinny rail is chunky. Hopefully there is a mlok option  
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Originally Posted By cyclone: I'm curious as to what the production version will look like compared to the one pictured You can see the updated version with safety and sleeker styling here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pbiiHLn0n3E |
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Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus: You can see the updated version with safety and sleeker styling here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pbiiHLn0n3E Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus: Originally Posted By cyclone: I'm curious as to what the production version will look like compared to the one pictured You can see the updated version with safety and sleeker styling here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pbiiHLn0n3E I like it............not sure about the larger brace on the gray one, but it looks better |
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Live fire update video short with the new X5.7 https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9c9O98x-nG/?igsh=YXU1bGlvdHd4dTlt 
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Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus: Live fire update video short with the new X5.7 https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9c9O98x-nG/?igsh=YXU1bGlvdHd4dTlt https://i.ibb.co/5rRSCLS/IMG-5590.jpg It's getting closer! |
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Also did I hear that there will be a telescoping braced version and then one without any? Is the one without going to have a flat endcap or a pic rail endcap? Interchangeable endcaps? |
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: I’d much rather see MLOK at 3 and 9. Most importantly, why are the side rails so low? I think for the brace rails to collapse into the body? |
Now a real killer, when he picked up the ZF1, would have immediately asked about the little red button on the bottom of the gun.
Official PSA Video dated 21 July 2024 states a target of an early 2025 release date for the X5.7 and discusses how they went from CAD to rapid prototype 40 days before SHOT Show. The Aberdeen Project | Relentless Pursuit: Episode 7 - SERIES FINALE (Starts at 7:55 minute mark) |
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12SEP2024 X57 Official Update: PSA X5.7 - PRODUCT UPDATE | Palmetto State Armory Summary: 1. This is a 2025 Release 2. Upper will now be aluminum instead of polymer will be able to accept a barrel shroud. This will “provide different line extensions”. I will make the large assumption that means they will, in time, expand this weapon to calibers beyond 5.7mm. With 9mm being the most obvious choice. 3. Magazine has been stylized and is same width as pistol grip. 4. The upper will have integral Glock pistol sights. |
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Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus: 12SEP2024 X57 Official Update:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2j0bPns7ZgSummary: 1. This is a 2025 Release 2. Upper will now be aluminum instead of polymer will be able to accept a barrel shroud. This will “provide different line extensions”. I will make the large assumption that means they will, in time, expand this weapon to calibers beyond 5.7mm. With 9mm being the most obvious choice. 3. Magazine has been stylized and is same width as pistol grip. 4. The upper will have integral Glock pistol sights. That would be a good choice. With the length of the grip I would want to see a 10mm/ 7.5fk version in the future.
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Has there been any word on what the action type is? I think I heard early on that it wasn't just the pistol in a chassis with a longer tilting barrel, hopefully that's the case. I would think it would need some kind of delaying system if blowback though, which is honestly something PSA is lacking currently. Would be awesome if this could be the basis of a series of delayed blowback PCCs or pistols. |
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Originally Posted By Gtscotty: Has there been any word on what the action type is? I think I heard early on that it wasn't just the pistol in a chassis with a longer tilting barrel, hopefully that's the case. I would think it would need some kind of delaying system if blowback though, which is honestly something PSA is lacking currently. Would be awesome if this could be the basis of a series of delayed blowback PCCs or pistols. And the Rock doesn't use a tilting barrel locked breech design, it's delayed blowback and the barrel does not tilt. |
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Originally Posted By D_Man: It's a Rock pistol at it's core, you can see the slide inside the ejection port. The lower/frame is just built up into being the chassis. And the Rock doesn't use a tilting barrel locked breech design, it's delayed blowback and the barrel does not tilt. Originally Posted By D_Man: Originally Posted By Gtscotty: Has there been any word on what the action type is? I think I heard early on that it wasn't just the pistol in a chassis with a longer tilting barrel, hopefully that's the case. I would think it would need some kind of delaying system if blowback though, which is honestly something PSA is lacking currently. Would be awesome if this could be the basis of a series of delayed blowback PCCs or pistols. And the Rock doesn't use a tilting barrel locked breech design, it's delayed blowback and the barrel does not tilt. I thought they said that was the 3D model for SHOT and that the final version was going to be different? 
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic: I thought they said that was the 3D model for SHOT and that the final version was going to be different? I think it's been planned to be a Rock chassis all along. The bit at shot show was just meant that the frame was going to have some design tweaks before finalizing and they were using 3d printed frames in the prototype design phase. |
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Originally Posted By D_Man: Even in their latest video it's obviously a Rock. If they planned to change it the should've done so by now. I think it's been planned to be a Rock chassis all along. The bit at shot show was just meant that the frame was going to have some design tweaks before finalizing and they were using 3d printed frames in the prototype design phase. I believe PSA has stated on here that it will not be a Rock slide chassis. On a related note, i hope they ditch the fixed side rails for MLOK. |
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Originally Posted By RDTCU: I believe PSA has stated on here that it will not be a Rock slide chassis. On a related note, i hope they ditch the fixed side rails for MLOK. |
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Originally Posted By November5: It's not a chassis as in you can't drop a Rock into it. But it's still a Rock with a fancier frame. |
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Originally Posted By RDTCU: I believe PSA has stated on here that it will not be a Rock slide chassis. On a related note, i hope they ditch the fixed side rails for MLOK. Originally Posted By RDTCU: Originally Posted By D_Man: Even in their latest video it's obviously a Rock. If they planned to change it the should've done so by now. I think it's been planned to be a Rock chassis all along. The bit at shot show was just meant that the frame was going to have some design tweaks before finalizing and they were using 3d printed frames in the prototype design phase. I believe PSA has stated on here that it will not be a Rock slide chassis. On a related note, i hope they ditch the fixed side rails for MLOK. |
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Originally Posted By RDTCU: The later revisions they show look to be integral Originally Posted By RDTCU: Originally Posted By CFletch: the rails even on the prototype were removable with mlok under them The later revisions they show look to be integral I guess it's possible they decided to go full rail, but that would seem to be a step backwards and I'm not sure what the benefit would be for doing so. @PalmettoStateArmory Josiah, can you answer this question for us? |
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