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Anybody heard anything about the possibility of the 18" free floated uppers with NIB BCG coming back in stock?
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When will PA10 bcg's be back in stock?
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Great to see the uppers coming back in stock. Any chance of the package with NIB BCG coming back? Thanks
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Hello, I have bought a bcg from you.
I would like to buy a complete upper without the bcg. Everything I have seen has been complete uppers with bcg so I am stuck. |
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Will the ASC-L stock fit on the PSA buffer tube for the PA-10?
I'm thinking of getting it but if it won't fit it, then I'll look for something else. |
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Originally Posted By silvrrubi592:
Will the ASC-L stock fit on the PSA buffer tube for the PA-10? I'm thinking of getting it but if it won't fit it, then I'll look for something else. View Quote yes, has a slight gap at the front with a PA10 palmetto marked tube. but you wont really notice |
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Any plans for 20" or longer barreled upper receivers in the near future? Also with free float and CHF stainless steel barrels?
That would be sweet. |
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Originally Posted By lapriester:
I wrote PSA CS directly about this problem and it seems they are aware of it and they are sending me a new bolt catch with a modified button that corrects the problem. If your receiver is getting dinged like mine was I suggest contacting PSA directly via the contact email address on their Site. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By lapriester:
Originally Posted By lapriester:
Hey Palmetto, are you planning to do a mod on the PA10 bolt release so the sharp edge on the top of it doesn't slam into the side of the receiver and cause a permanent cut/nick in the side of the receiver? Two times releasing the bolt is all it took to do damage and the nick gets bigger each time it's pushed. A taper of some sort would prevent the damage or just redesign the thing so it's not so close to the side of the receiver to begin with. It's not a very well thought out design. It's also impossible to install a BAD or Troy lever because of it's poor design. Another example of incomplete product testing. I wrote PSA CS directly about this problem and it seems they are aware of it and they are sending me a new bolt catch with a modified button that corrects the problem. If your receiver is getting dinged like mine was I suggest contacting PSA directly via the contact email address on their Site. Well, cool....well, not so cool. They sent a new bolt catch, that's cool. BUT, it's the same poorly designed bolt catch as the original. Nice work PSA. I won't even bother punching out the pin to change it. They made no modification. Now I have two. My next project is to taper the top edge of the one installed to stop the ongoing damage to my upper receiver from it's sharp edge when I release the bolt. Dremel tool here I come. |
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I recently purchased a SS PA 10 at the Farrow Rd. store in Columbia and have two PA 15's on order from their website. When I took the PA 10 to the range for the first time , after 35 shots the ejector broke loose from the bolt and jammed two rounds in the open chamber, both rounds were dented on the primmer. Scared the hell out of me because I shoot left handed and either one or both rounds could have gone off in my face since the chamber was open. I took the rifle back to the store the next day and told the sales clerks about the issue. Both clerks told me they could not replace the bolt and that I would have to leave the gun and they would send it back to the factory. Finally after having to get the store manager involved they agreed to replace my bolt. The manager took my contact info and said that someone from quality control would be contacting me. Well no one has contacted me yet. I sure hope new my rifles are safe but I have to say that I'm a little nervous after that incident and that no one from PSA has yet to follow up with me. I guess a potential personal injury lawsuit on a defective product was of little concern to them. If I ever do hear from PSA then I will update this post
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Originally Posted By gsparks:
I recently purchased a SS PA 10 at the Farrow Rd. store in Columbia and have two PA 15's on order from their website. When I took the PA 10 to the range for the first time , after 35 shots the extractor broke loose and from the bolt and jammed two rounds in the open chamber, both rounds were dented on the primmer. Scared the hell out of me because I shoot left handed and either one or both rounds could have gone off in my face since the chamber was open. I took the rifle back to the store the next day and told the sales clerks about the issue. Both clerks told me they could not replace the bolt and that I would have to leave the gun and they would send it back to the factory. Finally after having to get the store manager involved they agreed to replace my bolt. The manager took my contact info and said that someone from quality control would be contacting me. Well no one has contacted me yet. I sure hope new my rifles are safe but I have to say that I'm a little nervous after that incident and that no one from PSA has yet to follow up with me. I guess a potential personal injury lawsuit on a defective product was of little concern to them. If I ever do hear from PSA then I will update this post View Quote Did the extractor break or did the pin break.....or was the pin not put in? It is a captured part |
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1Andy2: it's just a question of if we decide to stop throwing coal in the furnace and lean on the brakes or if we're going to blow the boiler up getting to Full Retard'sville.
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Originally Posted By gsparks:
I recently purchased a SS PA 10 at the Farrow Rd. store in Columbia and have two PA 15's on order from their website. When I took the PA 10 to the range for the first time , after 35 shots the extractor broke loose and from the bolt and jammed two rounds in the open chamber, both rounds were dented on the primmer. Scared the hell out of me because I shoot left handed and either one or both rounds could have gone off in my face since the chamber was open. I took the rifle back to the store the next day and told the sales clerks about the issue. Both clerks told me they could not replace the bolt and that I would have to leave the gun and they would send it back to the factory. Finally after having to get the store manager involved they agreed to replace my bolt. The manager took my contact info and said that someone from quality control would be contacting me. Well no one has contacted me yet. I sure hope new my rifles are safe but I have to say that I'm a little nervous after that incident and that no one from PSA has yet to follow up with me. I guess a potential personal injury lawsuit on a defective product was of little concern to them. If I ever do hear from PSA then I will update this post View Quote any pics? id like to see exactly what happened myself. ive ran almost 200 rounds through mine without a hiccup at all. it has been flawless! but i sure would like to know what happened here |
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Sorry, it was the ejector pin that broke causing the ejector to break loose. I recovered the spring and pin but could not find the ejector itself.
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It was the ejector pin that broke. I took the pin and ejector and the dented bullets to the store for proof. I still have the bullets.
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Is the only difference in the 2 PA10 18" FF uppers in stock the rails ? One is key mod and the other is not?
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I also ask if they would upgrade my BCG if I would pay the difference but I was told NO because they didn't have any Nib BCG available. Really, none in Columbia? I dove all the way from Charlotte just to keep the same junkie BCG. I have a feeling things aren't going to go so well between me and PSA with that kind of customer service.
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I've tried to see things from the liberal point of view ... but I'm just not flexible enough to get my head up my ass.
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1Andy2: it's just a question of if we decide to stop throwing coal in the furnace and lean on the brakes or if we're going to blow the boiler up getting to Full Retard'sville.
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Originally Posted By gsparks:
I also ask if they would upgrade my BCG if I would pay the difference but I was told NO because they didn't have any Nib BCG available. Really, none in Columbia? I dove all the way from Charlotte just to keep the same junkie BCG. I have a feeling things aren't going to go so well between me and PSA with that kind of customer service. View Quote they one you have is not "junkie" a pin broke, it can happen. the phosphate ones i have seen were really nice. i got the NiB one because they posted the EXACT kit i was hoping for. had it been phospate i would have been satisfied with it for sure. these are sweet ass rifles when complete |
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I understand that pins break or come loose or whatever lack of quality control that caused the problem. Now imagine two .308 rounds hit hard enough to dent the primers in a open bolt 6 inches from YOUR face with your brand new rifle then I seriously doubt your comment would still be as causal. So with all respect I'll stick with my "Junkie" characterisation. In fact I should even add dangerous to it's description. As I said earlier I ask for a Nib BCG when I returned the rifle, but was told none were available anywhere in Columbia, so I wasted a four hour round trip from Charlotte. PSA should have done whatever It took to make me whole instead of half assing me by giving me the run around and lazy excuses especially since I've spent around $5,000 with them over the last month. I felt like they were just trying to get me out of the store and had no regard for the real problem. That's what's really bothering me more than the dangerous/junkie bolt.
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so because they didnt give you a NiB bcg, that they didnt have in stock. you feel cheated? did you call ahead to see IF they had one there and IF you could get it instead of the one you have? it makes no sense to drive there and back not knowing if the bcg was even available. that is a fairly hot item and it only comes with the kits so far. i havent seen any offered on their own, if there were some offered i missed seeing them available. at the very least i would have called to see if they had the parts i needed to make the bcg i had whole again before driving that far. and then perhaps hoped they would be generous enough to exchange it for the NiB if i were so lucky. they dont make the pin that broke, they do however cover them. did they offer to repair you bcg?
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Originally Posted By gsparks:
I understand that pins break or come loose or whatever lack of quality control that caused the problem. Now imagine two .308 rounds hit hard enough to dent the primers in a open bolt 6 inches from YOUR face with your brand new rifle then I seriously doubt your comment would still be as causal. So with all respect I'll stick with my "Junkie" characterisation. In fact I should even add dangerous to it's description. As I said earlier I ask for a Nib BCG when I returned the rifle, but was told none were available anywhere in Columbia, so I wasted a four hour round trip from Charlotte. PSA should have done whatever It took to make me whole instead of half assing me by giving me the run around and lazy excuses especially since I've spent around $5,000 with them over the last month. I felt like they were just trying to get me out of the store and had no regard for the real problem. That's what's really bothering me more than the dangerous/junkie bolt. View Quote Sir I am a gunsmith and have seen a lot....pins fail in every gun of every manufacture... And I have had catastrophic events with firearms....so yeah just a pin...and the rounds did not detonate in your gun |
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1Andy2: it's just a question of if we decide to stop throwing coal in the furnace and lean on the brakes or if we're going to blow the boiler up getting to Full Retard'sville.
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Do you work for PSA? Because you seem to be making excuses for them. Please go back and carefully re read my post that you're commenting on. Yes again, they finally replaced my bolt only after they told me that they didn't have ANY bolts available. Then magically a new junkie/dangerous bolt appeared out of the clear blue sky only after I told them that I was not leaving until my rifle was repaired. They lied to me about that so why would they not lie about a Nib BCG? Again I offered to pay the difference for the Nib BCG, I was't ask for anything for free. I simply had no confidence in a bolt that blew up in my face. Anyway at that point I knew they would say anything to get me out of their face so I took what I could get and left very disappointed in PSA. My past regard and declining confidence in PSA has hit an all time low. Still no follow up from PSA. They don't care about their customers.
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We are not talking about gunsmithing. We're talking about customer service.
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lol, im not making excuses for anyone for any reason. they most likely pulled one from a kit or complete rifle to make things right, this messing up their inventory. the NiB one and the phosphate one are the same exact bolt with different coatings, wouldnt that make it a "junkie" bcg as well? just wondering....
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fyi, a pin breaking does not constitute a "blow up" i am however glad you were not injured in any way as a result of this
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READ EVERYTHING I POSTED ABOUT THEM LYING TO ME ABOUT THE BOLT AND FOLLOW UP. THAT'S WHAT REALLY RUBBED MY THE WRONG WAY. PLUS I BELIEVE YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT THE BOLT, THE UPGRADED BOLT HAS AN UPGRADED EJECTOR WHICH HAS AN O RING AND HEAVIER SPRING. PLEASE KEEP UP WITH THE CONVERSATION. THIS IS THE LAST TIME THAT I'LL REPEAT MYSELF FOR YOU.
I'm planning on posting my terrible experience with PSA on every social media outlet possible until they follow up with me. |
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14ers
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Drunk on PSA Coolaid.
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Love my PA10....No issues.
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so to get back on topic...........
will the armalite A2 buttstock kit work with pa10? i think it will just want to make sure before i throw down the cash |
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99.9% sure it will
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what thought
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Originally Posted By gsparks:
Do you work for PSA? Because you seem to be making excuses for them. Please go back and carefully re read my post that you're commenting on. Yes again, they finally replaced my bolt only after they told me that they didn't have ANY bolts available. Then magically a new junkie/dangerous bolt appeared out of the clear blue sky only after I told them that I was not leaving until my rifle was repaired. They lied to me about that so why would they not lie about a Nib BCG? Again I offered to pay the difference for the Nib BCG, I was't ask for anything for free. I simply had no confidence in a bolt that blew up in my face. Anyway at that point I knew they would say anything to get me out of their face so I took what I could get and left very disappointed in PSA. My past regard and declining confidence in PSA has hit an all time low. Still no follow up from PSA. They don't care about their customers. View Quote No I have zero affiliation with PSA... I am not making excuses...you had a pin break that does not equal a bad bolt. They have thousands of customers....and sometimes things happen... You are making mountains out of mole hills |
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1Andy2: it's just a question of if we decide to stop throwing coal in the furnace and lean on the brakes or if we're going to blow the boiler up getting to Full Retard'sville.
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Originally Posted By gsparks:
We are not talking about gunsmithing. We're talking about customer service. View Quote You were talking about out of battery detonation caused by a broken part...then you stated that because it was not me that I could shrug it off... So yes it is gunsmithing the out of battery fire And why that is important is because you think it happened because of a bad bolt...and I doubt that is the cause. |
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1Andy2: it's just a question of if we decide to stop throwing coal in the furnace and lean on the brakes or if we're going to blow the boiler up getting to Full Retard'sville.
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Originally Posted By gsparks:
READ EVERYTHING I POSTED ABOUT THEM LYING TO ME ABOUT THE BOLT AND FOLLOW UP. THAT'S WHAT REALLY RUBBED MY THE WRONG WAY. PLUS I BELIEVE YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT THE BOLT, THE UPGRADED BOLT HAS AN UPGRADED EJECTOR WHICH HAS AN O RING AND HEAVIER SPRING. PLEASE KEEP UP WITH THE CONVERSATION. THIS IS THE LAST TIME THAT I'LL REPEAT MYSELF FOR YOU. I'm planning on posting my terrible experience with PSA on every social media outlet possible until they follow up with me. View Quote The extractor is exactly the same And the ejector was the original problem. So it was not the bolt. So why should PSA change out the bolt? |
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1Andy2: it's just a question of if we decide to stop throwing coal in the furnace and lean on the brakes or if we're going to blow the boiler up getting to Full Retard'sville.
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bottom line is, he feels he is owed a NiB bcg because a pin broke. its the same damn pin as in the NiB bcg. he want the NiB over the phosphate, it has nothing to do with the bolt, other than he is using that and his "fear" to get what he wants. they gave him a new bolt. i seriously feel bad it happened. but if it was me, i honestly would have put a new pin and spring in it at a whopping cost of less than $5, but hey, thats just me
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Thank you most kindly! I took the chance on it any way and hoped for the best. The special sale price was still lower from PSA then what I saw elsewhere with another discount. Now I'm just waiting of the rest of the parts to come back in stock.
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Actually, you are talking about parts breaking .....so that kind of is gunsmithing or at the very least quality control, not customer service. There is a difference.
Let me preface this by saying I AM NOT A PSA EMPLOYEE, but as someone who used to work "behind the counter" at a non-gun repair shop, the louder you yell at me that you're not happy with the service you're getting because I'm not giving you what you want (because I am not allowed to or cannot do what YOU want me to)......the less likely you are to walk out getting your way, and anything you do get after that point is just an attempt to get you to move on down the road and out of my hair. At that point you've probably already told them you're never shopping there again....so that just means they won't have to deal with you anymore which is a win/win situation. Yes, they need customers to stay in business, but nobody needs someone making demands in the showroom and being a pest. Keep it calm and civil and try and present a doable solution for them to meet and you're more likely to get somewhere. As for getting it replaced on the spot with an upgrade or different part....even if you offer to pay for it....probably not gonna happen anywhere, so don't be so hard on PSA. I had a gun blow up from a different company and they blamed the reloaded ammo I used and charged me for the repair. When it blew up the second time on factory ammo, they fixed it for free. I don't use that gun anymore, in case it should happen again, but the story fits here. PSA can't tell what you may or may not have done to it at the range, so they're probably going to be reluctant to just hand you new parts and let you break it again. They ain't a charity service and I'm sure they're just as concerned as you are to find out what happened and not let it happen again, which means if you wan it fixed they need to take it and look at it and you need to wait for that to happen. Just saying. |
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Originally Posted By gsparks:
I also ask if they would upgrade my BCG if I would pay the difference but I was told NO because they didn't have any Nib BCG available. Really, none in Columbia? I dove all the way from Charlotte just to keep the same junkie BCG. I have a feeling things aren't going to go so well between me and PSA with that kind of customer service. View Quote So, let me get this straight. They replaced your used bolt as you requested since you lost the ejector after the roll pin broke. Gee, roll pins sometimes break BTW. Doo-Doo occurs. And now you're pissed because they wouldn't upgrade your bolt to a NiB bolt since you drove so far for warranty service (and got good service BTW since all they probably were required to do was install a new extractor and roll pin on your original BCG). And, you think that the replacement Phosphate bolt is a "junkie" bolt? What makes you think the NiB is any better quality that the original? They are the same BCG, made of the same material and only coated with NiB like all NiB BCG's are. Hell, you bought the thing with the Phosphate BCG so you should not expect them to exchange for a "better" product under warranty service even if you paid any extra price it might be. Besides, that was a non-starter since they didn't have any in stock anyway and even then you doubt their honesty concerning that. Wow how negative we are just before Christmas Ho-Ho-Humbug. When you buy a new car and have to take it in for warranty work for a bad wheel, do you assume when you pick it up you can ask, and receive, upgraded wheels if you pay for them, even if they tell you they don't have any? Or would you rightly assume that they would just replace the bad part and send you on your way? Sir, if they replaced your BCG with a new one you have nothing to bitch about. They could have done far less and have been within their rights. You went home with a complete new BCG and you could have gone home with your old one with nothing more than a new extractor installed. Next time, if the drive is too far for you, ask for them to send you a mailing label to mail the defective part to them for replacement and wait three weeks for the replacement to arrive. You're fortunate, you have it already and can enjoy shooting your rifle right away. They gave you excellent Customer Service and now you complain about it. |
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At first they didn't want to do ANYTHING ( a pin, bolt, or Nib) for me until I said that I wasn't leaving until my rifle was repaired. They lied to me about having any bolts in stock. Then they lied AGAIN by saying they would have someone from their quality control department contact me to discuss the my POS rifle that broke while it was brand new. This is not all about a pin or a Nib. Please read everything I've posted instead of focusing on certain sentences. PSA does not care about their customers regardless of how you feel about the way they treated me. You guys should really work on your reading skills before commenting.
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Originally Posted By lapriester:
So, let me get this straight. They replaced your used bolt as you requested since you lost the ejector after the roll pin broke. Gee, roll pins sometimes break BTW. Doo-Doo occurs. And now you're pissed because they wouldn't upgrade your bolt to a NiB bolt since you drove so far for warranty service (and got good service BTW since all they probably were required to do was install a new extractor and roll pin on your original BCG). And, you think that the replacement Phosphate bolt is a "junkie" bolt? What makes you think the NiB is any better quality that the original? They are the same BCG, made of the same material and only coated with NiB like all NiB BCG's are. Hell, you bought the thing with the Phosphate BCG so you should not expect them to exchange for a "better" product under warranty service even if you paid any extra price it might be. Besides, that was a non-starter since they didn't have any in stock anyway and even then you doubt their honesty concerning that. Wow how negative we are just before Christmas Ho-Ho-Humbug. When you buy a new car and have to take it in for warranty work for a bad wheel, do you assume when you pick it up you can ask, and receive, upgraded wheels if you pay for them, even if they tell you they don't have any? Or would you rightly assume that they would just replace the bad part and send you on your way? Sir, if they replaced your BCG with a new one you have nothing to bitch about. They could have done far less and have been within their rights. You went home with a complete new BCG and you could have gone home with your old one with nothing more than a new extractor installed. Next time, if the drive is too far for you, ask for them to send you a mailing label to mail the defective part to them for replacement and wait three weeks for the replacement to arrive. You're fortunate, you have it already and can enjoy shooting your rifle right away. They gave you excellent Customer Service and now you complain about it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By lapriester:
Originally Posted By gsparks:
I also ask if they would upgrade my BCG if I would pay the difference but I was told NO because they didn't have any Nib BCG available. Really, none in Columbia? I dove all the way from Charlotte just to keep the same junkie BCG. I have a feeling things aren't going to go so well between me and PSA with that kind of customer service. So, let me get this straight. They replaced your used bolt as you requested since you lost the ejector after the roll pin broke. Gee, roll pins sometimes break BTW. Doo-Doo occurs. And now you're pissed because they wouldn't upgrade your bolt to a NiB bolt since you drove so far for warranty service (and got good service BTW since all they probably were required to do was install a new extractor and roll pin on your original BCG). And, you think that the replacement Phosphate bolt is a "junkie" bolt? What makes you think the NiB is any better quality that the original? They are the same BCG, made of the same material and only coated with NiB like all NiB BCG's are. Hell, you bought the thing with the Phosphate BCG so you should not expect them to exchange for a "better" product under warranty service even if you paid any extra price it might be. Besides, that was a non-starter since they didn't have any in stock anyway and even then you doubt their honesty concerning that. Wow how negative we are just before Christmas Ho-Ho-Humbug. When you buy a new car and have to take it in for warranty work for a bad wheel, do you assume when you pick it up you can ask, and receive, upgraded wheels if you pay for them, even if they tell you they don't have any? Or would you rightly assume that they would just replace the bad part and send you on your way? Sir, if they replaced your BCG with a new one you have nothing to bitch about. They could have done far less and have been within their rights. You went home with a complete new BCG and you could have gone home with your old one with nothing more than a new extractor installed. Next time, if the drive is too far for you, ask for them to send you a mailing label to mail the defective part to them for replacement and wait three weeks for the replacement to arrive. You're fortunate, you have it already and can enjoy shooting your rifle right away. They gave you excellent Customer Service and now you complain about it. +1 |
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after reading everything and seeing its a new account i have to ask who do YOU work for? you insinuate we all work for PSA lol. if its such a POS id sell it and buy something with 100% unbreakable roll pins. let me know when u find an indestructable rifle where no part has ever failed. especially a part like a roll pin that they buy in such huge quantities. on parts like that, they are batch tested, not individually tested. some one please get him an MPI roll pin
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Now I understand your bias, former sales clerk.
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and we understand your tears crybaby
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You really need to learn how to read. I'm no longer responding to your third grade grammar ramblings.
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lmao, fine by me. i just think its ridiculous how you come in here and bitch and whine. and when EVERYONE else points out that things happen and PSA made things right and it was not to YOUR satisfaction because you did not get the upgrade you wanted. one thing i learned long ago (in 3rd grade) is that when everyone is saying the same thing except for you, then the problem lies in your mirror. if you had a pistol grip screw break, would you expect them to replace the whole grip with a hogue? yeah you sound THAT stupid
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Originally Posted By kaw7rider:
lmao, fine by me. i just think its ridiculous how you come in here and bitch and whine. and when EVERYONE else points out that things happen and PSA made things right and it was not to YOUR satisfaction because you did not get the upgrade you wanted. one thing i learned long ago (in 3rd grade) is that when everyone is saying the same thing except for you, then the problem lies in your mirror. if you had a pistol grip screw break, would you expect them to replace the whole grip with a hogue? yeah you sound THAT stupid View Quote +1 |
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Yet another non reader that's just blabbing PSA Coolaid. Read very carefully before commenting. If this is your idea of good customer service then you have a lot to learn.
At first they didn't want to do ANYTHING ( a pin, bolt, or Nib) for me until I said that I wasn't leaving until my rifle was repaired. They lied to me about having any bolts in stock. Then they lied AGAIN by saying they would have someone from their quality control department contact me to discuss my POS rifle that broke while it was brand new. This is not all about a pin or a Nib. Please read everything I've posted instead of focusing on certain sentences. PSA does not care about their customers regardless of how you feel about the way they treated me. You guys should really work on your reading skills before commenting. |
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Broke down and ordered the 18" FF Upper with the SSK Rail yesterday. Just curious if anyone who's ordered one previously knew if they come with a rail section for accessories like it would if you ordered a new hand guard from MI. Thanks
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1Andy2: it's just a question of if we decide to stop throwing coal in the furnace and lean on the brakes or if we're going to blow the boiler up getting to Full Retard'sville.
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