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2/3/2014 12:06:55 PM EDT
Are we to assume that if it is not specifically mentioned in the description, that the barrel is NOT from FN?
I was looking at this rifle kit: http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/psa-16-m4-ss12g2-rifle-kit.html , but since the barrel description doesn't say made by FN, that it isn't?

Milt
2/3/2014 4:54:57 PM EDT
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Are we to assume that if it is not specifically mentioned in the description, that the barrel is NOT from FN?
I was looking at this rifle kit: http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/psa-16-m4-ss12g2-rifle-kit.html , but since the barrel description doesn't say made by FN, that it isn't?

Milt
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good question. idk.. PSA traditionally has to tell us what is..  unless its CHF.  those im sure are FN
2/3/2014 5:47:33 PM EDT
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Are we to assume that if it is not specifically mentioned in the description, that the barrel is NOT from FN?
I was looking at this rifle kit: http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/psa-16-m4-ss12g2-rifle-kit.html , but since the barrel description doesn't say made by FN, that it isn't?

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Looks like the standard CMV, non-FN barrel.  They have CHF or PREMIUM in the description if its FN.
2/3/2014 5:49:20 PM EDT
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Looks like the standard CMV, non-FN barrel.  They have CHF or PREMIUM in the description if its FN.
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Are we to assume that if it is not specifically mentioned in the description, that the barrel is NOT from FN?
I was looking at this rifle kit: http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/psa-16-m4-ss12g2-rifle-kit.html , but since the barrel description doesn't say made by FN, that it isn't?

Milt



Looks like the standard CMV, non-FN barrel.  They have CHF or PREMIUM in the description if its FN.


some of the premiums are not  FN i thought i remember reading...
2/3/2014 8:07:33 PM EDT
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some of the premiums are not  FN i thought i remember reading...
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Are we to assume that if it is not specifically mentioned in the description, that the barrel is NOT from FN?
I was looking at this rifle kit: http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/psa-16-m4-ss12g2-rifle-kit.html , but since the barrel description doesn't say made by FN, that it isn't?

Milt



Looks like the standard CMV, non-FN barrel.  They have CHF or PREMIUM in the description if its FN.


some of the premiums are not  FN i thought i remember reading...

I believe that is incorrect GcO... Remember we just went through this the other day... Premiums "currently" denote FN barrels according to PSA.
But this is today and that was the other day :)

Miltcook ... this upper says,
"Kit includes a PSA 16" , Chrome-lined, MP inspected, M4 profile, carbine-length upper with Midwest Industries SS12G2 free float rail, M16 Full Auto Profile Bolt Carrier Group, charging handle and a PSA Classic Lower Build Kit."
This says it's a PSA barrel and FN makes barrels for PSA.  It doesn't say by a military contractor, mil-spec, or in the USA.  Sometimes it's pretty confusing.
We're just trying to help you out the best we can for the time being.  Sometimes PSA can't get on here and answer every question or at least right away.  

Hopefully, PSA will get back to answer if it is or not.  Good Luck OP!
2/4/2014 2:47:40 AM EDT
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Thank you all for your comments.

The barrel on the above referenced upper is made for PSA by a Milspec Contractor.
2/4/2014 5:32:55 AM EDT
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Hhhmmmm . . . Is PTAC a "Milspec Contractor"?

Just curious . . . dp
2/4/2014 9:34:40 AM EDT
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Hhhmmmm . . . Is PTAC a "Milspec Contractor"?

Just curious . . . dp
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Thank you all for your comments.

The barrel on the above referenced upper is made for PSA by a Milspec Contractor.


Hhhmmmm . . . Is PTAC a "Milspec Contractor"?

Just curious . . . dp



Not a chance.
2/4/2014 11:57:45 AM EDT
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Thanks for the reply Mr. PSA.  It is easily read between the lines that the answer is no.  
What I don't understand is the non-naming of the contractor.  Unless there is no single source for barrels in the rifles and they are just bought in builk from whomever.  Either way it would be nice to know who's barrel is in your rifle.

Either way,  thanks for taking the time to answer.  I am specifically looking for a FN middy 16" free float with the ss12 handguard.  I'll just keep my eyes open.

Thanks
Milt


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2/4/2014 12:53:53 PM EDT
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I believe that is incorrect GcO... Remember we just went through this the other day... Premiums "currently" denote FN barrels according to PSA.
But this is today and that was the other day :)

Miltcook ... this upper says,
"Kit includes a PSA 16" , Chrome-lined, MP inspected, M4 profile, carbine-length upper with Midwest Industries SS12G2 free float rail, M16 Full Auto Profile Bolt Carrier Group, charging handle and a PSA Classic Lower Build Kit."
This says it's a PSA barrel and FN makes barrels for PSA.  It doesn't say by a military contractor, mil-spec, or in the USA.  Sometimes it's pretty confusing.
We're just trying to help you out the best we can for the time being.  Sometimes PSA can't get on here and answer every question or at least right away.  

Hopefully, PSA will get back to answer if it is or not.  Good Luck OP!
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Are we to assume that if it is not specifically mentioned in the description, that the barrel is NOT from FN?
I was looking at this rifle kit: http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/psa-16-m4-ss12g2-rifle-kit.html , but since the barrel description doesn't say made by FN, that it isn't?

Milt



Looks like the standard CMV, non-FN barrel.  They have CHF or PREMIUM in the description if its FN.


some of the premiums are not  FN i thought i remember reading...

I believe that is incorrect GcO... Remember we just went through this the other day... Premiums "currently" denote FN barrels according to PSA.
But this is today and that was the other day :)

Miltcook ... this upper says,
"Kit includes a PSA 16" , Chrome-lined, MP inspected, M4 profile, carbine-length upper with Midwest Industries SS12G2 free float rail, M16 Full Auto Profile Bolt Carrier Group, charging handle and a PSA Classic Lower Build Kit."
This says it's a PSA barrel and FN makes barrels for PSA.  It doesn't say by a military contractor, mil-spec, or in the USA.  Sometimes it's pretty confusing.
We're just trying to help you out the best we can for the time being.  Sometimes PSA can't get on here and answer every question or at least right away.  

Hopefully, PSA will get back to answer if it is or not.  Good Luck OP!



like i said not all premiums are FN from my knowledge..

Unfortunately the Barrels are a lot more complex than the Lowers.. so i dont think i can make a barrel thread anytime soon. LOL
2/4/2014 2:14:10 PM EDT
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If the description does not say that it is made by FN, I would assume that it is not.
2/4/2014 4:15:21 PM EDT
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thats pretty much my rule of thumb as well.
2/4/2014 4:34:37 PM EDT
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What about their complete rifles? I have a PSA M4 CLF. That is whats on the box that it came in? What barrell does it have? Anyone know?
2/4/2014 4:35:12 PM EDT
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got a pic of the barrel stamping?
2/4/2014 4:35:53 PM EDT
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The PSA M4-CLF has a 16" M4 profile barrel made for PSA by FN Manufacturing.
2/4/2014 4:42:11 PM EDT
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The PSA M4-CLF has a 16" M4 profile barrel made for PSA by FN Manufacturing.
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The PSA M4-CLF has a 16" M4 profile barrel made for PSA by FN Manufacturing.


Sounds Good! Thanks Alot!
2/4/2014 4:43:06 PM EDT
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I just received my M4 Premium upper...I noticed there is a small "B" under the hand guards near the base of the barrel.  Is that a marking from FN?

EDIT:  Not trying to thread jack, just looking to get more FN barrel info into one thread
2/4/2014 4:44:55 PM EDT
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got a pic of the barrel stamping?


Thanks Gamecockoperator  as always for your fast response even tho PSA got it for me!
2/4/2014 6:17:02 PM EDT
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Thanks Gamecockoperator  as always for your fast response even tho PSA got it for me!
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What about their complete rifles? I have a PSA M4 CLF. That is whats on the box that it came in? What barrell does it have? Anyone know?


got a pic of the barrel stamping?


Thanks Gamecockoperator  as always for your fast response even tho PSA got it for me!


no problem. glad they sorted it for us tehre :)
2/7/2014 3:08:30 PM EDT
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So I see the FN barrels are not always marked FN.

Are the CHF barrels marked CHF?

How to tell if not marked?
2/7/2014 3:32:37 PM EDT
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pretty sure all CHF's are CHF marked.
2/7/2014 3:35:56 PM EDT
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All of our PSA CHF will be marked as such.  In the past we have had some FN marked barrels that were CHF but had no marking.
2/7/2014 3:36:39 PM EDT
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All of our PSA CHF will be marked as such.  In the past we have had some FN marked barrels that were CHF but had no marking.
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So I see the FN barrels are not always marked FN.

Are the CHF barrels marked CHF?

How to tell if not marked?


All of our PSA CHF will be marked as such.  In the past we have had some FN marked barrels that were CHF but had no marking.



and there you go. :)
2/7/2014 4:15:36 PM EDT
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and there you go. :)
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So I see the FN barrels are not always marked FN.

Are the CHF barrels marked CHF?

How to tell if not marked?


All of our PSA CHF will be marked as such.  In the past we have had some FN marked barrels that were CHF but had no marking.



and there you go. :)


Here is why I ask.

I bought a PSA Blem Upper with a CL barrel.

The casings got stuck on every round.

I sent it back. The "replacement" came today.

A letter from PSA was with it.  It was an apology and stated that they tested it and indeed, the casings were getting stuck in the chamber.

They replaced it and upgraded it to an FN premium barrel. Cool.

The problem?  

I am not sure that it is actually a replacement.  It appears to ne the same upper.  The blem is in the exact same spot and it is tight in the lower just lile the previous one...

Perhaps they replaced the barrel?  I can't tell because the barrel has the same stamp as the previous one as well.

Mine is marked 556 Nato 1/7 MP CL Palmetto.

Is there a way to tell a premium barrel? Are they marked HP or anything?

This one appears identical to the one I sent back...which is fine as long as the cases do not get stuck in the chamber.
2/7/2014 5:10:15 PM EDT
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Here is why I ask.

I bought a PSA Blem Upper with a CL barrel.

The casings got stuck on every round.

I sent it back. The "replacement" came today.

A letter from PSA was with it.  It was an apology and stated that they tested it and indeed, the casings were getting stuck in the chamber.

They replaced it and upgraded it to an FN premium barrel. Cool.

The problem?  

I am not sure that it is actually a replacement.  It appears to ne the same upper.  The blem is in the exact same spot and it is tight in the lower just lile the previous one...

Perhaps they replaced the barrel?  I can't tell because the barrel has the same stamp as the previous one as well.

Mine is marked 556 Nato 1/7 MP CL Palmetto.

Is there a way to tell a premium barrel? Are they marked HP or anything?

This one appears identical to the one I sent back...which is fine as long as the cases do not get stuck in the chamber.
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So I see the FN barrels are not always marked FN.

Are the CHF barrels marked CHF?

How to tell if not marked?


All of our PSA CHF will be marked as such.  In the past we have had some FN marked barrels that were CHF but had no marking.



and there you go. :)


Here is why I ask.

I bought a PSA Blem Upper with a CL barrel.

The casings got stuck on every round.

I sent it back. The "replacement" came today.

A letter from PSA was with it.  It was an apology and stated that they tested it and indeed, the casings were getting stuck in the chamber.

They replaced it and upgraded it to an FN premium barrel. Cool.

The problem?  

I am not sure that it is actually a replacement.  It appears to ne the same upper.  The blem is in the exact same spot and it is tight in the lower just lile the previous one...

Perhaps they replaced the barrel?  I can't tell because the barrel has the same stamp as the previous one as well.

Mine is marked 556 Nato 1/7 MP CL Palmetto.

Is there a way to tell a premium barrel? Are they marked HP or anything?

This one appears identical to the one I sent back...which is fine as long as the cases do not get stuck in the chamber.



its only ok if its the same type of barrel if the HADNT SAID THEY UPGRADED YOU.  since they said that, you should have the upgraded parts.
just my opinion
2/7/2014 5:13:15 PM EDT
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The real question is how does it function now? Is it 100%
2/7/2014 5:15:25 PM EDT
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Yea, I just do not know if there is any way to tell.

I honestly think they sent me back the same upper.

I think they did that with my first PTAC return as well.

Manger gets it, tests/ inspects it, determines problem, writes note and leaves with a lower personel to replace and ship who then does not replace due to miscommunication and just tapes up and ships.
2/7/2014 5:17:04 PM EDT
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Haven't had a chance to try it yet. Just came in tonight.

That will tell the tale.
2/7/2014 5:20:08 PM EDT
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Yea, I just do not know if there is any way to tell.

I honestly think they sent me back the same upper.

I think they did that with my first PTAC return as well.

Manger gets it, tests/ inspects it, determines problem, writes note and leaves with a lower personel to replace and ship who then does not replace due to miscommunication and just tapes up and ships.
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sadly i can see that happening.
2/7/2014 5:30:20 PM EDT
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sadly i can see that happening.
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Yea, I just do not know if there is any way to tell.

I honestly think they sent me back the same upper.

I think they did that with my first PTAC return as well.

Manger gets it, tests/ inspects it, determines problem, writes note and leaves with a lower personel to replace and ship who then does not replace due to miscommunication and just tapes up and ships.



sadly i can see that happening.

I am certain that is what happened with my first PTAC.

I think it os actually a conspiracy that PSA pulls to keep us watching their website and buy more stuff.

They know we can not resist.

:)
2/7/2014 7:32:30 PM EDT
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hehe as if they need any more help making us buy. lol