[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Shipping Label Discreteness... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/29/2014 7:08:09 AM EDT
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Hey PSA - Is there anyway your shipping labels can just have PSA listed instead of Palmetto State Armory?
I have an extremely nosey UPS man and he keep inquiring about what I'm ordering. I always tell him memorabilia but he is no idiot I'm sure. The last thing I need is the UPS man running his mouth to all his buddies about all my "armory" purchases. We have enough threats from the Gov't trying to take our weapons let alone all the potential criminal assh0les the UPS guy may know. I know you have other fish to fry but just a suggestion. Also, keep up the great work. You take care of us and we will continue to take care of you. Keep the great deals coming, but it wouldn't hurt to throw in some free shit. Free stuff = free advertising. I know, I know, no free stuff equals lower prices. Damn catch 22's. |
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seriously. My package yesterday had an ORM-D sticker on it, and I didn't even order anything that warranted the ORM-D labeling. Then the UPS guy seen the Palmetto State Armory return address. My UPS guy asked if there was a gun in the box.. lol I just told him no, and he said I had better hurry up before Obama changes the laws.. haha
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| I just received an upper that I never received tracking info for, and wasn't expecting that day. I have my shipments sent to work as it wouldn't last very long sitting on my door step. My UPS lady was sure to announce at the door that she had a big gun for Tim. I work in an office with 5 men and 44 women... |
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I just received an upper that I never received tracking info for, and wasn't expecting that day. I have my shipments sent to work as it wouldn't last very long sitting on my door step. My UPS lady was sure to announce at the door that she had a big gun for Tim. I work in an office with 5 men and 44 women... Yikes... It definitely sucks that they don't notify you of packages, especially when they require a signature. |
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I agree the shipping notification needs major improvements, but I don't see being "more discrete" with the shipping label or putting less information on the label is the fix. I can already hear the complaints (typically from those that aren't happy unless they're bitching about something) about "not enough" information on the shipping labels.
If you don't want people knowing where you order from, take the aluminum foil and/or armadillo shell off of your head, get out of the house, and go buy it directly from a retailer. Otherwise you're going to have to deal with arbitrary eyes and hands taking notice of your shipped items. This message will self-destruct... 
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I agree the shipping notification needs major improvements, but I don't see being "more discrete" with the shipping label or putting less information on the label is the fix. I can already hear the complaints (typically from those that aren't happy unless they're bitching about something) about "not enough" information on the shipping labels. If you don't want people knowing where you order from, take the aluminum foil and/or armadillo shell off of your head, get out of the house, and go buy it directly from a retailer. Otherwise you're going to have to deal with arbitrary eyes and hands taking notice of your shipped items. This message will self-destruct... Who here is saying that less information or being more discrete is an effort to fix a shipping notification problem? Maybe you meant to say their shipping notification problems are an issue, but not being discrete isn't something to be concerned about? Some people have shady delivery drivers...you don't have to have a foil hat to feel like it could be a problem, either. It's personally not a problem I have, but I could see some people being concerned with it. |
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This thread is about "label discretion."
I was simply acknowledging that yes PSA needs to fix their shipping notification issues (as someone mentioned) but "label discretion" is not an issue of the "shipper." The minute an order is "mis-shipped," people will be lining up to throw PSA under the bus for not putting enough information (too discrete) on the shipping label. I'm sorry, but if you're that paranoid about who's seeing where you're ordering items from, then that's a "you" problem and not a problem of the people you're ordering from. If you have "shady delivery drivers," contact their employer and complain to them, not the people you ordered the product(s) from. There's a fine line between "concern" and paranoia. 
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This thread is about "label discretion." I was simply acknowledging that yes PSA needs to fix their shipping notification issues (as someone mentioned) but "label discretion" is not an issue of the "shipper." The minute an order is "mis-shipped," people will be lining up to throw PSA under the bus for not putting enough information (too discrete) on the shipping label. I'm sorry, but if you're that paranoid about who's seeing where you're ordering items from, then that's a "you" problem and not a problem of the people you're ordering from. If you have "shady delivery drivers," contact their employer and complain to them, not the people you ordered the product(s) from. There's a fine line between "concern" and paranoia. its not paranoia if they are Really after you.... |
| I had a nosey UPS driver asking me if I thought the world was going to end or something and what is all this stuff. My fear is that a pro-gungrabber may decide to give my packages the "Extra-care shipping" treatment. I don't tell them shit when they ask. All my uppers were double boxed concealed. The ammo is a dead giveaway though. |
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It's why I usually have them hold mine at the center. Luckily I only live 12-15 minutes away. At least their boxes don't have massive logos on them like Midway!!
Somewhat similar topic...the word "Armory" on the PSA shipping label doesn't bother me near as bad as my local sheriff dept that sends out open post-card style notices like this: 
That really bugs me... |
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This thread is about "label discretion." I was simply acknowledging that yes PSA needs to fix their shipping notification issues (as someone mentioned) but "label discretion" is not an issue of the "shipper." The minute an order is "mis-shipped," people will be lining up to throw PSA under the bus for not putting enough information (too discrete) on the shipping label. I'm sorry, but if you're that paranoid about who's seeing where you're ordering items from, then that's a "you" problem and not a problem of the people you're ordering from. If you have "shady delivery drivers," contact their employer and complain to them, not the people you ordered the product(s) from. There's a fine line between "concern" and paranoia. Ok, that's not how your first sentence read to me. You said being more discrete is not a fix to the shipping notification problem. Anyways, what's the downside to putting PSA instead of the full name on the label? How is them changing their name on the label going to cause them to mis-ship something? Guess we're going to just write it all off as being "paranoid" even though a couple of the guys have had strange interactions with their drivers. Maybe they should complain to the shipping company, but it doesn't hurt to bring it up here. |
| This is why I try to pick up in house or order from companies that do have a discrete logo. At least MidwayUSA doesn't screen "GUN STORE!" if you don't know what it is. Same is true of Primary Arms, it just has a big PA on it, and even Larue. If you don't know what they are, you don't know they are gun parts/ammo other than the ORD sticker. |
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call ups and bitch about the nosy driver- that is bs and he will be in shitload of trouble UPS is union - That being said, the driver could take a dump on your door step, lose his job for a few day and be back at it in a week. Shitload of trouble? Not likely. Unless being labeled as the UPS guy who shit of the doorstep of a person. I worked for UPS years and years ago...they get away with everything. As for some of the other comments... Anyway. All I was suggesting was they simply put PSA versus Palmetto State Armory on the label might eliminate the delivery guys inquiries as soon as he reads armory. When you order something from QVC the UPS guy doesn't inquire whether you ordered the grabber or the snuggie. Just saying. No need to call me a paranoid aluminum hat wearing freak. I just don't want them knowing what I have in my home as that can potentially make me a target. As for going to the store, I am only 1100 miles away from Columbia South Carolina so that sounds like an ideal fiscal decision. No need to get your panties in a bunch, I was just suggesting something that is as simple as a few key strokes, nothing more. |
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I agree the shipping notification needs major improvements, but I don't see being "more discrete" with the shipping label or putting less information on the label is the fix. I can already hear the complaints (typically from those that aren't happy unless they're bitching about something) about "not enough" information on the shipping labels. If you don't want people knowing where you order from, take the aluminum foil and/or armadillo shell off of your head, get out of the house, and go buy it directly from a retailer. Otherwise you're going to have to deal with arbitrary eyes and hands taking notice of your shipped items. This message will self-destruct... Wow Archer, what are you a lib? Typical response like you'd get from a lib. I don't agree with what this person says so I'll throw some inflammatory comments to make them look like an idiot. Is it so hard to grasp that I don't like the UPS guy asking me, every time, are these guns simply because he reads the word armory? I simply don't like it, for obvious reasons, considering the world we live in. Period. You don't have to be a dick because I don't like something. |
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Wow Archer, what are you a lib? Typical response like you'd get from a lib. I don't agree with what this person says so I'll throw some inflammatory comments to make them look like an idiot. Is it so hard to grasp that I don't like the UPS guy asking me, every time, are these guns simply because he reads the word armory? I simply don't like it, for obvious reasons, considering the world we live in. Period. You don't have to be a dick because I don't like something. Quoted:
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I agree the shipping notification needs major improvements, but I don't see being "more discrete" with the shipping label or putting less information on the label is the fix. I can already hear the complaints (typically from those that aren't happy unless they're bitching about something) about "not enough" information on the shipping labels. If you don't want people knowing where you order from, take the aluminum foil and/or armadillo shell off of your head, get out of the house, and go buy it directly from a retailer. Otherwise you're going to have to deal with arbitrary eyes and hands taking notice of your shipped items. This message will self-destruct... Wow Archer, what are you a lib? Typical response like you'd get from a lib. I don't agree with what this person says so I'll throw some inflammatory comments to make them look like an idiot. Is it so hard to grasp that I don't like the UPS guy asking me, every time, are these guns simply because he reads the word armory? I simply don't like it, for obvious reasons, considering the world we live in. Period. You don't have to be a dick because I don't like something. LOL!! No, not a Lib. Given the basis of this topic, I didn't have to put forth any extra effort to make anyone look like and idiot. I've found that most idiots do a fine job of that all by themselves. Is it so hard to grasp that you should've contacted the UPS driver's supervisor about the driver's conduct and/or tell the driver to mind his own fucking business as opposed to asking PSA to be more "discrete" with their shiiping labels? Is it so hard to go to the source of the problem to try to rectify the issue? Obviously. I have a hard time relating to this type of paranoid thinking because I don't live my life in fear. I speak my mind. I go to the source of the problems. I tell people to mind their own fucking business. But I realize this isn't for everyone. Just like those people that won't get their CWP because they have to get fingerprinted and they don't want that kind of information out there. That's hillarious!! So to you poor bastards that live your lives worrying about nosey UPS drivers (yet you won't take action on it) and people knowing what you're ordering and who you're ordering it from....my deepest apollogies and damn your bad luck. |
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LOL!! No, not a Lib. Given the basis of this topic, I didn't have to put forth any extra effort to make anyone look like and idiot. I've found that most idiots do a fine job of that all by themselves. Is it so hard to grasp that you should've contacted the UPS driver's supervisor about the driver's conduct and/or tell the driver to mind his own fucking business as opposed to asking PSA to be more "discrete" with their shiiping labels? Is it so hard to go to the source of the problem to try to rectify the issue? Obviously. I have a hard time relating to this type of paranoid thinking because I don't live my life in fear. I speak my mind. I go to the source of the problems. I tell people to mind their own fucking business. But I realize this isn't for everyone. Just like those people that won't get their CWP because they have to get fingerprinted and they don't want that kind of information out there. That's hillarious!! So to you poor bastards that live your lives worrying about nosey UPS drivers (yet you won't take action on it) and people knowing what you're ordering and who you're ordering it from....my deepest apollogies and damn your bad luck. Quoted:
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I agree the shipping notification needs major improvements, but I don't see being "more discrete" with the shipping label or putting less information on the label is the fix. I can already hear the complaints (typically from those that aren't happy unless they're bitching about something) about "not enough" information on the shipping labels. If you don't want people knowing where you order from, take the aluminum foil and/or armadillo shell off of your head, get out of the house, and go buy it directly from a retailer. Otherwise you're going to have to deal with arbitrary eyes and hands taking notice of your shipped items. This message will self-destruct... Wow Archer, what are you a lib? Typical response like you'd get from a lib. I don't agree with what this person says so I'll throw some inflammatory comments to make them look like an idiot. Is it so hard to grasp that I don't like the UPS guy asking me, every time, are these guns simply because he reads the word armory? I simply don't like it, for obvious reasons, considering the world we live in. Period. You don't have to be a dick because I don't like something. LOL!! No, not a Lib. Given the basis of this topic, I didn't have to put forth any extra effort to make anyone look like and idiot. I've found that most idiots do a fine job of that all by themselves. Is it so hard to grasp that you should've contacted the UPS driver's supervisor about the driver's conduct and/or tell the driver to mind his own fucking business as opposed to asking PSA to be more "discrete" with their shiiping labels? Is it so hard to go to the source of the problem to try to rectify the issue? Obviously. I have a hard time relating to this type of paranoid thinking because I don't live my life in fear. I speak my mind. I go to the source of the problems. I tell people to mind their own fucking business. But I realize this isn't for everyone. Just like those people that won't get their CWP because they have to get fingerprinted and they don't want that kind of information out there. That's hillarious!! So to you poor bastards that live your lives worrying about nosey UPS drivers (yet you won't take action on it) and people knowing what you're ordering and who you're ordering it from....my deepest apollogies and damn your bad luck. Not afraid or paranoid , just trying to mitigate risk. Much like the stock market, you try to mitigate risk as much as possible knowing full well you can't eliminate it. I worked at UPS while going to college, I know how they handle those types of situations. You piss off UPS, they piss you off by taking less than stellar care of your packages. I am not an idiot as you imply. You look at this from an extreme position, I am not worried, I am not afraid, I am not paranoid. If I don't like something I seek out ways to change it, in the simplest form. Let's see, call UPS, bitch and moan (knowing nothing will be done as I worked there ) or off a suggestion that involves a few key strokes. I don't know, the lesser of two evils I guess. I suppose you stalk the cook if they mess up your steak? |
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I didn't imply anything. If you took offense to the "idiot" comment, that's a you problem because if I was specifically calling you and idiot, I would've done so.
I wouldn't stalk the cook but you can bet the steak is going back if it's not to my liking. And no, I don't live in fear of what they might or might not do to my steak if I send it back. I'm not eating at Outback or Long Horn's or Sizzler where the qualification to be a cook (not a chef) is being able to fog a mirror. |
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I didn't imply anything. If you took offense to the "idiot" comment, that's a you problem because if I was specifically calling you and idiot, I would've done so. I wouldn't stalk the cook but you can bet the steak is going back if it's not to my liking. And no, I don't live in fear of what they might or might not do to my steak if I send it back. I'm not eating at Outback or Long Horn's or Sizzler where the qualification to be a cook (not a chef) is being able to fog a mirror. High society huh? Nice chat - missed my point, but nice chat. Have a good one. |
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yea even aside from the shipping delivery guy, theres a lot of hands that box touches in the shippign plants. Quoted:
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PSA label would be better in my opinion. to many shady people in this world yea even aside from the shipping delivery guy, theres a lot of hands that box touches in the shippign plants. Exactly, I used to work for UPS and a few guys got caught stealing prescription drugs. So seeing a box that says Armory on it, someone might get sticky fingers. |
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Exactly, I used to work for UPS and a few guys got caught stealing prescription drugs. So seeing a box that says Armory on it, someone might get sticky fingers. Quoted:
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PSA label would be better in my opinion. to many shady people in this world yea even aside from the shipping delivery guy, theres a lot of hands that box touches in the shippign plants. Exactly, I used to work for UPS and a few guys got caught stealing prescription drugs. So seeing a box that says Armory on it, someone might get sticky fingers. lol ME TOO! we'd catch guys throwing boxes over the fence directly into their truck beds, we've seen it all.. |
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lol ME TOO! we'd catch guys throwing boxes over the fence directly into their truck beds, we've seen it all.. Quoted:
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PSA label would be better in my opinion. to many shady people in this world yea even aside from the shipping delivery guy, theres a lot of hands that box touches in the shippign plants. Exactly, I used to work for UPS and a few guys got caught stealing prescription drugs. So seeing a box that says Armory on it, someone might get sticky fingers. lol ME TOO! we'd catch guys throwing boxes over the fence directly into their truck beds, we've seen it all.. Yeah, and sadly, the UNION got them their jobs back. It's insane. |
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PSA label would be better in my opinion. to many shady people in this world yea even aside from the shipping delivery guy, theres a lot of hands that box touches in the shippign plants. Exactly, I used to work for UPS and a few guys got caught stealing prescription drugs. So seeing a box that says Armory on it, someone might get sticky fingers. lol ME TOO! we'd catch guys throwing boxes over the fence directly into their truck beds, we've seen it all.. Yeah, and sadly, the UNION got them their jobs back. It's insane. everytime. i started out in IT there, but towards the end i was the dreaded Load Planning Specialist. Taking pictures of them loading and catching them throwing the shit both in and outside the trucks building and fence. oh how i dont miss that shit. Yea the UNION is shit. If a supervisor touches a package, then you file grievance and get paid double due to the super touching the box.. crazy shit. |
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Thank you all for your input. We've taken your suggestions into consideration and from this point forward, all shipping labels will read "PSA" instead of "Palmetto State Armory". Hey, another added benefit is the ink savings. Do I win a free complete upper or something for saving you money and increasing security? Hint hint wink wink. |
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Hey, another added benefit is the ink savings. Do I win a free complete upper or something for saving you money and increasing security? Hint hint wink wink. Quoted:
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Thank you all for your input. We've taken your suggestions into consideration and from this point forward, all shipping labels will read "PSA" instead of "Palmetto State Armory". Hey, another added benefit is the ink savings. Do I win a free complete upper or something for saving you money and increasing security? Hint hint wink wink. thermal printers dont use ink. nice try :) lol i do commend you for your efforts though. |
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thermal printers dont use ink. nice try :) lol i do commend you for your efforts though. Quoted:
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Thank you all for your input. We've taken your suggestions into consideration and from this point forward, all shipping labels will read "PSA" instead of "Palmetto State Armory". Hey, another added benefit is the ink savings. Do I win a free complete upper or something for saving you money and increasing security? Hint hint wink wink. thermal printers dont use ink. nice try :) lol i do commend you for your efforts though. Damn. |
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Yea the UNION is shit. If a supervisor touches a package, then you file grievance and get paid double due to the super touching the box.. crazy shit. The union at UPS is a necessary evil. The management is just a corrupt and shady as the union and for the average worker, it helps maintain a sort of fucked up checks and balances. I would know. |
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Double Wow. I though I'd seen it all. |
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The union at UPS is a necessary evil. The management is just a corrupt and shady as the union and for the average worker, it helps maintain a sort of fucked up checks and balances. I would know. Quoted:
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Yea the UNION is shit. If a supervisor touches a package, then you file grievance and get paid double due to the super touching the box.. crazy shit. The union at UPS is a necessary evil. The management is just a corrupt and shady as the union and for the average worker, it helps maintain a sort of fucked up checks and balances. I would know. sounds like a card totin union member |
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Thank you all for your input. We've taken your suggestions into consideration and from this point forward, all shipping labels will read "PSA" instead of "Palmetto State Armory". You guys rock! I was quietly wishing the same thing. In the long term, I think it will help both parties with "lost" packages. |
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The union at UPS is a necessary evil. The management is just a corrupt and shady as the union and for the average worker, it helps maintain a sort of fucked up checks and balances. I would know. Quoted:
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Yea the UNION is shit. If a supervisor touches a package, then you file grievance and get paid double due to the super touching the box.. crazy shit. The union at UPS is a necessary evil. The management is just a corrupt and shady as the union and for the average worker, it helps maintain a sort of fucked up checks and balances. I would know. I have frineds and family which work for UPS. Some started as union and are now management, and 2 friends are still drivers (union). They see the brunt of upper-menangement; too, however, they are the first to honestly admit the unions allow for complacency and laziness with inflated salaries. I personally feel unions are not necessary and slowly bleed a company. I don't see FedEx having any more or less problems than UPS, and they are non-union. This may piss some people off, but it is the truth - there are so many unemployed people in this country that if you don't like your job - simply leave and there are people standing in line to take your position. Think of it as healthy competition in the market place. Unions take away that constitutinal concept. Never should someone feel they are entitled to their job - they need to work for it and conntinue to earn it. Those that work harder than others will climb the ladder. Some will be lazy and hide behind the veil of the union while still geting mandatory pay raises which are not necesssarily earned (some are). I have had several "deliverd" packages not show up on my dorestep. I have a security camera, and no one rang my doorbell from the big brown truck. Oddly, it was only packaged marked OMD....hmmmm. Fortunately I now have a good UPS guy, buy years ago - that was not always the case. I just wish UPS would allow a re-route to a UPS store without a penalty; like Fed Exx does. I prever signature required, but many times the shipping date gets changed and my work schedlue doesn't allow it. Sorry to rant... |
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I have frineds and family which work for UPS. Some started as union and are now management, and 2 friends are still drivers (union). They see the brunt of upper-menangement; too, however, they are the first to honestly admit the unions allow for complacency and laziness with inflated salaries. I personally feel unions are not necessary and slowly bleed a company. I don't see FedEx having any more or less problems than UPS, and they are non-union. This may piss some people off, but it is the truth - there are so many unemployed people in this country that if you don't like your job - simply leave and there are people standing in line to take your position. Think of it as healthy competition in the market place. Unions take away that constitutinal concept. Never should someone feel they are entitled to their job - they need to work for it and conntinue to earn it. Those that work harder than others will climb the ladder. Some will be lazy and hide behind the veil of the union while still geting mandatory pay raises which are not necesssarily earned (some are). I have had several "deliverd" packages not show up on my dorestep. I have a security camera, and no one rang my doorbell from the big brown truck. Oddly, it was only packaged marked OMD....hmmmm. Fortunately I now have a good UPS guy, buy years ago - that was not always the case. I just wish UPS would allow a re-route to a UPS store without a penalty; like Fed Exx does. I prever signature required, but many times the shipping date gets changed and my work schedlue doesn't allow it. Sorry to rant... Quoted:
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Yea the UNION is shit. If a supervisor touches a package, then you file grievance and get paid double due to the super touching the box.. crazy shit. The union at UPS is a necessary evil. The management is just a corrupt and shady as the union and for the average worker, it helps maintain a sort of fucked up checks and balances. I would know. I have frineds and family which work for UPS. Some started as union and are now management, and 2 friends are still drivers (union). They see the brunt of upper-menangement; too, however, they are the first to honestly admit the unions allow for complacency and laziness with inflated salaries. I personally feel unions are not necessary and slowly bleed a company. I don't see FedEx having any more or less problems than UPS, and they are non-union. This may piss some people off, but it is the truth - there are so many unemployed people in this country that if you don't like your job - simply leave and there are people standing in line to take your position. Think of it as healthy competition in the market place. Unions take away that constitutinal concept. Never should someone feel they are entitled to their job - they need to work for it and conntinue to earn it. Those that work harder than others will climb the ladder. Some will be lazy and hide behind the veil of the union while still geting mandatory pay raises which are not necesssarily earned (some are). I have had several "deliverd" packages not show up on my dorestep. I have a security camera, and no one rang my doorbell from the big brown truck. Oddly, it was only packaged marked OMD....hmmmm. Fortunately I now have a good UPS guy, buy years ago - that was not always the case. I just wish UPS would allow a re-route to a UPS store without a penalty; like Fed Exx does. I prever signature required, but many times the shipping date gets changed and my work schedlue doesn't allow it. Sorry to rant... i agree with you. |
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I have frineds and family which work for UPS. Some started as union and are now management, and 2 friends are still drivers (union). They see the brunt of upper-menangement; too, however, they are the first to honestly admit the unions allow for complacency and laziness with inflated salaries. I personally feel unions are not necessary and slowly bleed a company. I don't see FedEx having any more or less problems than UPS, and they are non-union. This may piss some people off, but it is the truth - there are so many unemployed people in this country that if you don't like your job - simply leave and there are people standing in line to take your position. Think of it as healthy competition in the market place. Unions take away that constitutinal concept. Never should someone feel they are entitled to their job - they need to work for it and conntinue to earn it. Those that work harder than others will climb the ladder. Some will be lazy and hide behind the veil of the union while still geting mandatory pay raises which are not necesssarily earned (some are). I have had several "deliverd" packages not show up on my dorestep. I have a security camera, and no one rang my doorbell from the big brown truck. Oddly, it was only packaged marked OMD....hmmmm. Fortunately I now have a good UPS guy, buy years ago - that was not always the case. I just wish UPS would allow a re-route to a UPS store without a penalty; like Fed Exx does. I prever signature required, but many times the shipping date gets changed and my work schedlue doesn't allow it. Sorry to rant... Quoted:
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Yea the UNION is shit. If a supervisor touches a package, then you file grievance and get paid double due to the super touching the box.. crazy shit. The union at UPS is a necessary evil. The management is just a corrupt and shady as the union and for the average worker, it helps maintain a sort of fucked up checks and balances. I would know. I have frineds and family which work for UPS. Some started as union and are now management, and 2 friends are still drivers (union). They see the brunt of upper-menangement; too, however, they are the first to honestly admit the unions allow for complacency and laziness with inflated salaries. I personally feel unions are not necessary and slowly bleed a company. I don't see FedEx having any more or less problems than UPS, and they are non-union. This may piss some people off, but it is the truth - there are so many unemployed people in this country that if you don't like your job - simply leave and there are people standing in line to take your position. Think of it as healthy competition in the market place. Unions take away that constitutinal concept. Never should someone feel they are entitled to their job - they need to work for it and conntinue to earn it. Those that work harder than others will climb the ladder. Some will be lazy and hide behind the veil of the union while still geting mandatory pay raises which are not necesssarily earned (some are). I have had several "deliverd" packages not show up on my dorestep. I have a security camera, and no one rang my doorbell from the big brown truck. Oddly, it was only packaged marked OMD....hmmmm. Fortunately I now have a good UPS guy, buy years ago - that was not always the case. I just wish UPS would allow a re-route to a UPS store without a penalty; like Fed Exx does. I prever signature required, but many times the shipping date gets changed and my work schedlue doesn't allow it. Sorry to rant... Don't be sorry for the rant. The union allows lazy workers who aren't worth a crap to keep their jobs, where in a non-union workplace they would have been gone years ago. You are absolutely right about that. But I'm convinced the management in that company is just as evil as the union. Maybe it wasn't always so, and maybe its because the union made it so, but all that was before my time. When I get done with active duty and go back to UPS I'll have 7 years with the company. I don't really want to be a driver so I might end up in management myself. |
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Don't be sorry for the rant. The union allows lazy workers who aren't worth a crap to keep their jobs, where in a non-union workplace they would have been gone years ago. You are absolutely right about that. But I'm convinced the management in that company is just as evil as the union. Maybe it wasn't always so, and maybe its because the union made it so, but all that was before my time. When I get done with active duty and go back to UPS I'll have 7 years with the company. I don't really want to be a driver so I might end up in management myself. Quoted:
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Yea the UNION is shit. If a supervisor touches a package, then you file grievance and get paid double due to the super touching the box.. crazy shit. The union at UPS is a necessary evil. The management is just a corrupt and shady as the union and for the average worker, it helps maintain a sort of fucked up checks and balances. I would know. I have frineds and family which work for UPS. Some started as union and are now management, and 2 friends are still drivers (union). They see the brunt of upper-menangement; too, however, they are the first to honestly admit the unions allow for complacency and laziness with inflated salaries. I personally feel unions are not necessary and slowly bleed a company. I don't see FedEx having any more or less problems than UPS, and they are non-union. This may piss some people off, but it is the truth - there are so many unemployed people in this country that if you don't like your job - simply leave and there are people standing in line to take your position. Think of it as healthy competition in the market place. Unions take away that constitutinal concept. Never should someone feel they are entitled to their job - they need to work for it and conntinue to earn it. Those that work harder than others will climb the ladder. Some will be lazy and hide behind the veil of the union while still geting mandatory pay raises which are not necesssarily earned (some are). I have had several "deliverd" packages not show up on my dorestep. I have a security camera, and no one rang my doorbell from the big brown truck. Oddly, it was only packaged marked OMD....hmmmm. Fortunately I now have a good UPS guy, buy years ago - that was not always the case. I just wish UPS would allow a re-route to a UPS store without a penalty; like Fed Exx does. I prever signature required, but many times the shipping date gets changed and my work schedlue doesn't allow it. Sorry to rant... Don't be sorry for the rant. The union allows lazy workers who aren't worth a crap to keep their jobs, where in a non-union workplace they would have been gone years ago. You are absolutely right about that. But I'm convinced the management in that company is just as evil as the union. Maybe it wasn't always so, and maybe its because the union made it so, but all that was before my time. When I get done with active duty and go back to UPS I'll have 7 years with the company. I don't really want to be a driver so I might end up in management myself. i think that mgmt was corrupted by the union, and the union by mgmt at ups. personally neither are worht a shit. theyre all out for their own best interests and could care less about anything else. all at the expense of the company. hopefully youll find a job elsewhere.. maybe with PSA or something.. UPS in mgmt means you wont see your family at all.. |
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Yea the UNION is shit. If a supervisor touches a package, then you file grievance and get paid double due to the super touching the box.. crazy shit. The union at UPS is a necessary evil. The management is just a corrupt and shady as the union and for the average worker, it helps maintain a sort of fucked up checks and balances. I would know. I have frineds and family which work for UPS. Some started as union and are now management, and 2 friends are still drivers (union). They see the brunt of upper-menangement; too, however, they are the first to honestly admit the unions allow for complacency and laziness with inflated salaries. I personally feel unions are not necessary and slowly bleed a company. I don't see FedEx having any more or less problems than UPS, and they are non-union. This may piss some people off, but it is the truth - there are so many unemployed people in this country that if you don't like your job - simply leave and there are people standing in line to take your position. Think of it as healthy competition in the market place. Unions take away that constitutinal concept. Never should someone feel they are entitled to their job - they need to work for it and conntinue to earn it. Those that work harder than others will climb the ladder. Some will be lazy and hide behind the veil of the union while still geting mandatory pay raises which are not necesssarily earned (some are). I have had several "deliverd" packages not show up on my dorestep. I have a security camera, and no one rang my doorbell from the big brown truck. Oddly, it was only packaged marked OMD....hmmmm. Fortunately I now have a good UPS guy, buy years ago - that was not always the case. I just wish UPS would allow a re-route to a UPS store without a penalty; like Fed Exx does. I prever signature required, but many times the shipping date gets changed and my work schedlue doesn't allow it. Sorry to rant... Don't be sorry for the rant. The union allows lazy workers who aren't worth a crap to keep their jobs, where in a non-union workplace they would have been gone years ago. You are absolutely right about that. But I'm convinced the management in that company is just as evil as the union. Maybe it wasn't always so, and maybe its because the union made it so, but all that was before my time. When I get done with active duty and go back to UPS I'll have 7 years with the company. I don't really want to be a driver so I might end up in management myself. i think that mgmt was corrupted by the union, and the union by mgmt at ups. personally neither are worht a shit. theyre all out for their own best interests and could care less about anything else. all at the expense of the company. hopefully youll find a job elsewhere.. maybe with PSA or something.. UPS in mgmt means you wont see your family at all.. Can't be as bad as the Marines when it comes to family time. |
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Can't be as bad as the Marines when it comes to family time. no its worse, you will always have them just around the next shift, around the next building or worse yet get home when they leave.. seeing them from time to time just barely, you can be the judge though. |