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Quoted: Quoted: I just got the new cr6920 and it does say m4 just not on the lower its on the upper in front of the upper receiver by the delta ring. My bolt carrier is c marked and bolt is mpc. I love this new rifle so I've added an old colt carry handle and removed the mbus, I was going to stick my eotech on it but I kinda like the look with the handle. I got mine from my lgs for 1129. Attached File |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I just got the new cr6920 and it does say m4 just not on the lower its on the upper in front of the upper receiver by the delta ring. My bolt carrier is c marked and bolt is mpc. I love this new rifle so I've added an old colt carry handle and removed the mbus, I was going to stick my eotech on it but I kinda like the look with the handle. I got mine from my lgs for 1129. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/476-342.gif No need to make fun of him, this isn’t GD. That is normal seth21w, enjoy your new rifle. |
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Quoted: My new 6920 I bought in april ish from AU.....I noticed it said "2013 model," on the box. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/371838/20201006_085632_jpg-1622504.JPG View Quote Mine looks like this, says “2013 config” on label. Got it at Walmart in 2013 back when they still carried them. |
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Quoted: Just purchased a new CR6920 a week ago. 999 + tax, s&h Did a few upgrades. Seems well made. BCG has faint C and MPC markings. It's the one on the bottom in the picture: https://imgur.com/a/I1w096T View Quote Good deal |
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Quoted: Good deal View Quote Just got an email ad from Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore for $1,999. CR6920 |
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View Quote That is crazy. Way too much! |
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MAC did a review recently that I disagree with. Lower, upper, barrel, bolt, bolt carrier and extractor are marked either with "C" or Cage Code. M4 on upper for M4 feed ramps. He dislikes the lack of the "F" on the FSB. But if not issued with the detachable carrying handle but with an adjustable BUIS, what difference does it make? Few things I would like to see if marked are the charging handle and stock. USGI stocks are usually marked but in 36 yrs have only seen one Colt marked charging handle on a Govt gun. Hammer is sub out to govt contractor Shmidt.
New Colt M4 rifle - Is it REALLY a Colt??? CD |
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Quoted: MAC did a review recently that I disagree with. Lower, upper, barrel, bolt, bolt carrier and extractor are marked either with "C" or Cage Code. M4 on upper for M4 feed ramps. He dislikes the lack of the "F" on the FSB. But if not issued with the detachable carrying handle but with an adjustable BUIS, what difference does it make? Few things I would like to see if marked are the charging handle and stock. USGI stocks are usually marked but in 36 yrs have only seen one Colt marked charging handle on a Govt gun. Hammer is sub out to govt contractor Shmidt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf43zByGu9U CD View Quote Agreed CD. Also, no reason to continue to stamp the F in the FSB as only one height is used at this point. |
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MAC's a shill, pure and simple. He needs to get back to doing what he does best, shilling O lights.
I do love reading all the Colt hater posts, does something for me, not sure why but makes me smile. |
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LoL “the gun is marked M4 in front of the receiver”
I generally like MAC... but MAC and Bartocci is a bad combo.. |
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A Colt still seems to be a Colt from what I'm seeing... Subcontracted parts or not, they are very likely still being made to Colt's specs. Aside from a few slight cosmetic differences I'm not seeing a lot of difference between Colt ARs from 2009 and Colts being made in 2020.
The assembly quality on the newer guns is the same from the examples that I've seen and it's still the best in the entire AR industry... Colt still has the same well thought out jigs and tooling for every step of assembly. Despite the usual dings in the finish, Colt's assembly monkeys aren't just blindly swinging hammers like PSAs assembly monkeys. |
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Is this the new colt he is reviewing ? With all non colt parts ? Or is Mac confused ?
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Quoted: A Colt still seems to be a Colt from what I'm seeing... Subcontracted parts or not, they are very likely still being made to Colt's specs. Aside from a few slight cosmetic differences I'm not seeing a lot of difference between Colt ARs from 2009 and Colts being made in 2020. The assembly quality on the newer guns is the same from the examples that I've seen and it's still the best in the entire AR industry... Colt still has the same well thought out jigs and tooling for every step of assembly. Despite the usual dings in the finish, Colt's assembly monkeys aren't just blindly swinging hammers like PSAs assembly monkeys. View Quote Yeah I wouldn’t use a PSA or BCM as a duty weapon ( just my personal preference) all of my AR’s are Colt 6920 with the LE roll marks |
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Quoted: Few things I would like to see if marked are the charging handle and stock. USGI stocks are usually marked but in 36 yrs have only seen one Colt marked charging handle on a Govt gun. CD View Quote I have a 2020 CR "Carbine" 6920 and both the underside of the charging handle and right side of the stock are marked with Colt's CAGE code. |
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Quoted: MAC did a review recently that I disagree with. Lower, upper, barrel, bolt, bolt carrier and extractor are marked either with "C" or Cage Code. M4 on upper for M4 feed ramps. He dislikes the lack of the "F" on the FSB. But if not issued with the detachable carrying handle but with an adjustable BUIS, what difference does it make? Few things I would like to see if marked are the charging handle and stock. USGI stocks are usually marked but in 36 yrs have only seen one Colt marked charging handle on a Govt gun. Hammer is sub out to govt contractor Shmidt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf43zByGu9U CD View Quote Dumbest review I've ever watched. And the comments are even dumber. SOLGW, Noveske, Larue, etc. all assemble rifles from outsourced parts. And this guy can't even confirm Colt is doing it other than what a 3rd party told him. |
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Quoted: Dumbest review I've ever watched. And the comments are even dumber. SOLGW, Noveske, Larue, etc. all assemble rifles from outsourced parts. And this guy can't even confirm Colt is doing it other than what a 3rd party told him. View Quote I can't convince myself to watch it. I like Tim but I disagree with a lot of what he says. He believes that people should only buy factory rifles because all home built guns are unreliable. In house vs. outsourced parts. Does it matter? If a bolt carrier is made at Colt or a machine shop down the road it doesn't matter as long as they are made according to the drawings. F marking is irrelevant, all that is important is if the FSB is the correct height. Engraved markings, no M4 or M4A1 is dumb but has nothing to do with the quality of the parts. |
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Quoted: I can't convince myself to watch it. I like Tim but I disagree with a lot of what he says. He believes that people should only buy factory rifles because all home built guns are unreliable. In house vs. outsourced parts. Does it matter? If a bolt carrier is made at Colt or a machine shop down the road it doesn't matter as long as they are made according to the drawings. F marking is irrelevant, all that is important is if the FSB is the correct height. Engraved markings, no M4 or M4A1 is dumb but has nothing to do with the quality of the parts. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Dumbest review I've ever watched. And the comments are even dumber. SOLGW, Noveske, Larue, etc. all assemble rifles from outsourced parts. And this guy can't even confirm Colt is doing it other than what a 3rd party told him. I can't convince myself to watch it. I like Tim but I disagree with a lot of what he says. He believes that people should only buy factory rifles because all home built guns are unreliable. In house vs. outsourced parts. Does it matter? If a bolt carrier is made at Colt or a machine shop down the road it doesn't matter as long as they are made according to the drawings. F marking is irrelevant, all that is important is if the FSB is the correct height. Engraved markings, no M4 or M4A1 is dumb but has nothing to do with the quality of the parts. Wait!?? Colt markings have changed? Colt subcontracts components???. Say it aint so! At least it says "M4" on the front of upper receiver. Lotta "Im not sure" and "most likely " peppered in there. At least the sponsors got their mention. Waste of of 13 minutes...... |
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Quoted: Wait!?? Colt markings have changed? Colt subcontracts components???. Say it aint so! At least it says "M4" on the front of upper receiver. Lotta "Im not sure" and "most likely " peppered in there. At least the sponsors got their mention. Waste of of 13 minutes...... View Quote I normally like Tim's stuff as well but that didn't go so good. |
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I especially liked the part where he "checked the accuracy" shooting at a dot spray painted on steel while shooting with mittens on while leaning over a folding picnic table.
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Quoted: MAC did a review recently that I disagree with. Lower, upper, barrel, bolt, bolt carrier and extractor are marked either with "C" or Cage Code. M4 on upper for M4 feed ramps. He dislikes the lack of the "F" on the FSB. But if not issued with the detachable carrying handle but with an adjustable BUIS, what difference does it make? Few things I would like to see if marked are the charging handle and stock. USGI stocks are usually marked but in 36 yrs have only seen one Colt marked charging handle on a Govt gun. Hammer is sub out to govt contractor Shmidt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf43zByGu9U CD View Quote Tim’s videos are made for neophyte gun owners. I wish CarnikCon would come back. That was the only worthwhile YouTube gun channel in my opinion. Dugan is awesome. |
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Looked over two more. Both have C marked carriers and both have MPC marked bolts. The C on the carrier is different than before, font wise. It looks more like a partial circle, compared to the earlier taller narrower Cs Colt normally used.
I also noticed the hammers are cage code marked on the left side. They have the usual S markings on the right side. |
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I watched this video couple days ago and didn't agree with anything he said. He seems like a bcm fan boy trying to make a review bashing colt. Everything on my cr is c stamped or coded except the charging handle like others have said. I did lol when he said m4 was on the upper in front of the delta ring. I said that a few weeks ago in this same thread ?? went shooting mine last weekend and she ate everything. With things how they are right now I just feel comfy with a colt around again even though I have 2 personally built psa and bca rifles. Neither are chrome lined and one is stainless steel 416r.
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Quoted: I watched this video couple days ago and didn't agree with anything he said. He seems like a bcm fan boy trying to make a review bashing colt. Everything on my cr is c stamped or coded except the charging handle like others have said. I did lol when he said m4 was on the upper in front of the delta ring. I said that a few weeks ago in this same thread ?? went shooting mine last weekend and she ate everything. With things how they are right now I just feel comfy with a colt around again even though I have 2 personally built psa and bca rifles. Neither are chrome lined and one is stainless steel 416r. View Quote Nothing gives a warm fuzzy feeling like a colt imo |
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Looked over my CR marked rifle and the following markings are what i can see without removing the entire FCG.
Cage Code on the following; Barrel Upper receiver Hammer( hammer is squared off without a notch) Stock Selector is the typical S marked. Bolt Carrier has a dot matrix C The bolt itself has an extremely faint MPC over an A. Charging Handle is unmarked. |
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I received mine about 8 to 12 days ago but haven't been able to open it yet. I will try to crack the box tonight and see what markings are on mine.
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regarding the 20 inch A3/4 variant being canceled..... are we talking about the civilian model or the huge middle east joint contract with FN announced last March ($383,000,000)
while the recent 56 million dollar carbine contract was nice, this new 383 Million dollar job dwarfs it in comparison and oddly enough specified only 20 inch rifles in its context. i find it kinda strange we sold just our arab allies a few M4s only to have them really load up (8X more?) on these 20 inch rifles. |
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pretty much same here. light stenciled C on carrier, not a damn thing on the bolts and one bolt appears to have several hundred rounds of wear from the looks of the firing pin hole.
both received from Arms Unlimited a week apart. sent them an email today; verrrrry disappointed. |
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Finally got my CR6920 out of the box and am taking photos. Summary of markings so far:
Hammer- CAGE code on left side. An S, another S and a 1 on the right side. Charging handle- CAGE code Safety Lever- S Upper Receiver- M4, CAGE code and Square forge mark Bolt Carrier- Dot Peened C Bolt- MPC. Subcontractor- A Buttstock- Colt CAGE and P&S CAGE Pistol Grip- F1 Barrel- CAGE MP 5.56 NATO 1/7 Chamber Exterior- R (no barrel date) Barrel Extension- Dot and 4 Buffer- H Front Sight Base- Yellow inspection paint dot ---forge code on FSB is not readable |
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Quoted: For those who don't know... https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/tell_me_more_about_the_R6521_Colt_Carbine/29-152691/? http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL366/498052/10794644/201645369.jpg View Quote Hey....... I remember that Rifle ;-) |
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Quoted: I ended up selling mine to my buddy who really wanted a 6920. The only thing I didn't like was the completely sanitized bolt and BCG. I expected the BCG to have no markings, however I assumed the bolt would be MP marked. The barrel and upper was cage coded. No noticeable tooling marks present either. Cheers View Quote The bolt on mine is MP marked so faintly it took a bright light at the right angle to even see it. My bolt also had the "white dot". I don't think I've seen that in a long while. Overall, my CR6920 is a thing of beauty. The finish is not dinged and scuffed like other Colts I've seen and handled. I'm not sure if that's a good thing. It might very well be a red flag that it was outsourced. After all, Colt usually doesn't give a shit about scuffs. |
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Quoted: The bolt on mine is MP marked so faintly it took a bright light at the right angle to even see it. My bolt also had the "white dot". I don't think I've seen that in a long while. Overall, my CR6920 is a thing of beauty. The finish is not dinged and scuffed like other Colts I've seen and handled. I'm not sure if that's a good thing. It might very well be a red flag that it was outsourced. After all, Colt usually doesn't give a shit about scuffs. View Quote MP or MPC? |
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Quoted: regarding the 20 inch A3/4 variant being canceled..... are we talking about the civilian model or the huge middle east joint contract with FN announced last March ($383,000,000) while the recent 56 million dollar carbine contract was nice, this new 383 Million dollar job dwarfs it in comparison and oddly enough specified only 20 inch rifles in its context. i find it kinda strange we sold just our arab allies a few M4s only to have them really load up (8X more?) on these 20 inch rifles. View Quote Civi model I'd imagine |
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Wasn't sure where would be the best place to post this image but thought you guys might like to see this 'side-by-side' image of an old AR6520 'Carbine' lower receiver with my CR6920 'Carbine' lower receiver.
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Quoted: Wasn't sure where would be the best place to post this image but thought you guys might like to see this 'side-by-side' image of an old AR6520 'Carbine' lower receiver with my CR6920 'Carbine' lower receiver. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/IMG_20210203_225315_107_jpg-1810149.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/IMG_20210203_225315_116_jpg-1810150.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/IMG_20210203_225315_129_jpg-1810151.JPG View Quote Nice looking 6520! |
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Quoted: Thought they got out of the civvie gun market. Guess not View Quote Lol, thats a marketing ploy they've used for decades to run up the value of their firearms. How many times have they discontinued an item only to bring it back a few years later, after supplies dried up and sellers commanded a premium for something that would be re-introduced at a later date? |
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For anyone interested in seeing some details of the CR6920 Colt Carbine, I have finally posted my write-up of it here:
CR6920 Colt Carbine Attached File |
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Nice write up.
Interesting about the rounded hammer, the 6940 I just picked up with the CR “carbine” lower had the normal notched hammer in it. |
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Quoted: For anyone interested in seeing some details of the CR6920 Colt Carbine, I have finally posted my write-up of it here: CR6920 Colt Carbine https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/CR6920_Box_10_jpg-1815118.JPG View Quote Great review |
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If I had to guesstimate as to why colt omitted the M4, carbine, or AR-15 in the roll mark or lazer engraving, it would be in line with the H.R. 127 Gun Bill currently being proposed...
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