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AR15.COM
5/19/2013 6:25:08 PM EDT
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5/19/2013 6:26:14 PM EDT
[#1]
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5/19/2013 6:39:51 PM EDT
[#2]
You have what appears to be either a custom engraved aftermarket lower, or a someone trying to pass off a fake lower.
5/19/2013 6:41:24 PM EDT
[#3]
dammit, what do you think its worth?
5/19/2013 6:43:10 PM EDT
[#4]
I don't know, but from the "CARBINE" I'm guessing a second culled for bad engraving?
5/19/2013 6:46:42 PM EDT
[#5]
culled?
5/19/2013 6:52:33 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
dammit, what do you think its worth?


Nothing.
5/19/2013 9:55:19 PM EDT
[#7]
Edited...VA-gunnut
5/20/2013 1:45:27 AM EDT
[#8]
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5/20/2013 2:00:55 AM EDT
[#9]
USGI carbine serial numbers begin with W
5/20/2013 2:01:30 AM EDT
[#10]
Double
5/20/2013 3:58:45 AM EDT
[#11]
"Colt's Firearms Division" is wrong for a M4 as far as I know. An early M4 should have Colt's MFG CO.
Looks like a bad fake with engraved markings to me. Sorry.
5/20/2013 4:45:42 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Can anyone tell me what i got here?


A very low quality fake.
5/20/2013 6:22:13 AM EDT
[#13]
A M4 lower with no sear pin hole??? I'll go with fake as well.
5/20/2013 7:24:31 AM EDT
[#14]
There is M4 and M4A1 but no such thing as an M4A4
It would be M16A4 if anything...
This is a fake,, engraved by Bubba in his garage
5/20/2013 7:51:35 AM EDT
[#15]
Clearly a fake. Markings were engraved with a rotary engraving machine. Notice the small "dimple" on each letter that is a giveaway of a rotary engraver. Colt uses roll stamps to mark their guns. I would remove the cheesy Krylon paint job and have someone anodize it for you.  Is there any way for you to determine who did the work on this?
5/20/2013 8:02:23 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
<a href="http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/dipngd/media/z1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s499/dipngd/z1.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/dipngd/media/z2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s499/dipngd/z2.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/dipngd/media/z3.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s499/dipngd/z3.jpg</a>


That looks like ass..... Is that a real colt?
5/20/2013 9:40:38 AM EDT
[#17]
Bet somebody in Colt's legal department would love to see this!
5/20/2013 12:30:58 PM EDT
[#18]
Well.  It looks like anything I would've said has been said.  

All I can add is:

"Obvious fake is obvious."  



~Augee
5/20/2013 2:45:19 PM EDT
[#19]
Fake
5/20/2013 3:14:28 PM EDT
[#20]
Wow, just wow, where did you get that?
5/20/2013 3:40:13 PM EDT
[#21]
there was a guy at my local gun show selling them
5/20/2013 4:06:28 PM EDT
[#22]
What did you give for it if you don't mind my asking.  If you paid a premium you May have got hooked, but . . . It could be considered an interesting piece if you didn't get raped.

Sly

ETA: just slightly better than finding out its an airsoft replica
5/20/2013 4:40:52 PM EDT
[#23]
do you guys think i should try to sell it on gunbroker, or just keep it?
5/20/2013 4:50:57 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
do you guys think i should try to sell it on gunbroker, or just keep it?


I think you should contact Colt.  You sir have a counterfeit receiver.
5/20/2013 5:03:20 PM EDT
[#25]
and what would colt be able to do for me?
5/20/2013 5:36:39 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
and what would colt be able to do for me?


Who knows, but it would be a noble thing to do.  I would also let them know where you got it.  

It would be a dick move to try to sell it to an unsuspecting novice.
5/20/2013 5:36:59 PM EDT
[#27]
I just love the fact the he engraved "M4A4" when there is no such thing.
Not only is it fake, it's incorrect.
The guy couldn't even get the model right....
Also, military receivers say "Colt Defense", not "Colt industries".  The only thing he got right was "Safe" "Semi" "Auto"...
But even if he did get the wording right, it's a crapy attempt at proper engraving.  
Welcome to Bubba's hack shop..
5/20/2013 5:53:34 PM EDT
[#28]
Looks like cast and not forged, as well.
5/20/2013 5:58:16 PM EDT
[#29]
Check out these pics Augee posted in this thread a few years ago:  http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=394156
The first 2 are actual USGI M4 and M4A1 receivers
The 3rd pic is a full auto "export" model...
Things to note:
-The style and quality of the engraving
- "Colt Defense" and sometimes "Colt MFG.". No "Colt Industries"
- Serial number that starts with a "W"
5/21/2013 3:14:01 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Can anyone tell me what i got here?


A very low quality fake.



Nailed it...
5/21/2013 4:43:29 PM EDT
[#31]
Could that be an 80% someone finished and engraved?

The black looks like spraypaint and not anodizing.
5/21/2013 5:06:58 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Could that be an 80% someone finished and engraved?

The black looks like spraypaint and not anodizing.


Probably.  Hopefully the OP didn't get ripped off and buy the thing.  Best case scenario is that he made it him self and made this thread to show off.
If not, he should demand his money back.
5/21/2013 6:56:40 PM EDT
[#33]
The supposed "guy at the local gunshow" who supposedly sold them needs to go to jail on several federal violations.
5/22/2013 3:53:42 PM EDT
[#34]
OP.

Contact Colt.  Even if they can't do anything for you (Which they won't, since it's not a Colt product ) they would really like to know about it and that there are forgeries going around.

How much did you pay for it...and more importantly, why did you buy an M4 receiver marked "auto" and "us govt. property" without knowing what you were doing anyway?
5/22/2013 7:10:07 PM EDT
[#35]
If that serial number is fake you have a much bigger problem on your hands. Call Colt and have them run the serial # which they will do. If its fake you need to turn it over to the ATF.



5/22/2013 7:18:33 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
If that serial number is fake you have a much bigger problem on your hands. Call Colt and have them run the serial # which they will do. If its fake you need to turn it over to the ATF.





It's not a Colt product. Not Colt's problem.

It looks like someone rolled their own receiver, and had it engraved.

Why would the OP need to involve the .gov?


13'er
5/23/2013 11:12:47 AM EDT
[#37]
^ ^^  Why get the gov involved?

Because this fake is no different than any other product that is counterfeited.  

Rolling your own lower, having it engraved with whatever it totally legit.  

Going into production counterfeiting another company's logo/product then pimping that shit to unsuspecting folks at the local gunshow isnt cool.  
5/23/2013 1:30:18 PM EDT
[#38]
From now on, I REFUSE to buy ANYTHING from gun shows. I will either buy direct, or not buy at all!