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Posted: 7/1/2016 3:42:06 PM EDT
Tyranny made advances in the great state of California today.
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Originally Posted By Wiz-of-Awd:
Tyranny made advances in the great state of California today.
A.W.D. California hasn't been a great state for a long time before today but yes 
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Originally Posted By sea2summit:
California hasn't been a great state for a long time before today but yes Originally Posted By sea2summit:
Originally Posted By Wiz-of-Awd:
Tyranny made advances in the great state of California today.
A.W.D. California hasn't been a great state for a long time before today but yes came to post the same thing |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
So for the uninformed, what happened? Was this all the pending gun legislation? Bullet button was banned, standard capacity magazines banned. These bills were pushed thru the Democrat controlled State Assembly and Senate. https://www.gov.ca.gov/home.php http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-essential-politics-updates-gov-brown-signs-six-gun-control-bills-1467394282-htmlstory.html |
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Originally Posted By buss45:
Bullet button was banned, standard capacity magazines banned. These bills were pushed thru the Democrat controlled State Assembly and Senate. https://www.gov.ca.gov/home.php http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-essential-politics-updates-gov-brown-signs-six-gun-control-bills-1467394282-htmlstory.html Originally Posted By buss45:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
So for the uninformed, what happened? Was this all the pending gun legislation? Bullet button was banned, standard capacity magazines banned. These bills were pushed thru the Democrat controlled State Assembly and Senate. https://www.gov.ca.gov/home.php http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-essential-politics-updates-gov-brown-signs-six-gun-control-bills-1467394282-htmlstory.html Damn...
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Wouldent live there if they paid me,the most liberal state.my guess is they also found a way to give some more handouts.i'm beginning to think I'll never live long enough to see people wake up and get their shit together.apparently personal responsibility is long gone.
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Originally Posted By buss45:
Bullet button was banned, standard capacity magazines banned. These bills were pushed thru the Democrat controlled State Assembly and Senate. https://www.gov.ca.gov/home.php http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-essential-politics-updates-gov-brown-signs-six-gun-control-bills-1467394282-htmlstory.html Originally Posted By buss45:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
So for the uninformed, what happened? Was this all the pending gun legislation? Bullet button was banned, standard capacity magazines banned. These bills were pushed thru the Democrat controlled State Assembly and Senate. https://www.gov.ca.gov/home.php http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-essential-politics-updates-gov-brown-signs-six-gun-control-bills-1467394282-htmlstory.html Bills the governor signed will: — Require an ID and background check to purchase ammunition and create a new state database of ammunition owners — Ban possession of ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 bullets. — Restrict the loaning of guns without background checks to close family members. Bills the governor vetoed would have: — Put an initiative on the November ballot to clarify that theft of a firearm is grand theft and is punishable as a felony. — Require those who make guns at home to register them with the state and get a serial number so the weapons can be tracked. — Required stolen or lost guns to be reported within five days. — Limited Californians to the purchase of one rifle or shotgun per month A.W.D. |
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Originally Posted By Wiz-of-Awd:
Bills the governor signed will: — Require an ID and background check to purchase ammunition and create a new state database of ammunition owners — Ban possession of ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 bullets. — Restrict the loaning of guns without background checks to close family members. Bills the governor vetoed would have: — Put an initiative on the November ballot to clarify that theft of a firearm is grand theft and is punishable as a felony. — Require those who make guns at home to register them with the state and get a serial number so the weapons can be tracked. — Required stolen or lost guns to be reported within five days. — Limited Californians to the purchase of one rifle or shotgun per month A.W.D. Originally Posted By Wiz-of-Awd:
Originally Posted By buss45:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
So for the uninformed, what happened? Was this all the pending gun legislation? Bullet button was banned, standard capacity magazines banned. These bills were pushed thru the Democrat controlled State Assembly and Senate. https://www.gov.ca.gov/home.php http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-essential-politics-updates-gov-brown-signs-six-gun-control-bills-1467394282-htmlstory.html Bills the governor signed will: — Require an ID and background check to purchase ammunition and create a new state database of ammunition owners — Ban possession of ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 bullets. — Restrict the loaning of guns without background checks to close family members. Bills the governor vetoed would have: — Put an initiative on the November ballot to clarify that theft of a firearm is grand theft and is punishable as a felony. — Require those who make guns at home to register them with the state and get a serial number so the weapons can be tracked. — Required stolen or lost guns to be reported within five days. — Limited Californians to the purchase of one rifle or shotgun per month A.W.D. Well that settles it.... Sorry Grandpa you can't borrow my shotgun for this years dove shoot. Another reason I don't live in California |
Well, the good thing is now all the "gun violence" will stop, so the effin' gubmint won't have any more reasons to come back and take another bite out of freedom's ass. 
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Another election, another chance for voters to royally screw up.
As always, I will vote based on a single issue: Freedom.
Good luck, America. We'll need it.
As always, I will vote based on a single issue: Freedom.
Good luck, America. We'll need it.
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Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
Are current bullet button ARs grandfathered or did they say FOAD like with the hi-cap mags? The little that I read had said that they will not be, but you can register it as an "assault weapon" (their wording, not mine) with the state and be allowed to keep it. |
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CVMA Chapter 24-2
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CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
The little that I read had said that they will not be, but you can register it as an "assault weapon" (their wording, not mine) with the state and be allowed to keep it. Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
Are current bullet button ARs grandfathered or did they say FOAD like with the hi-cap mags? The little that I read had said that they will not be, but you can register it as an "assault weapon" (their wording, not mine) with the state and be allowed to keep it. I believe we will have till 1/1/2018 to register. Once registered they will not be transferable in CA. |
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Originally Posted By buss45:
I believe we will have till 1/1/2018 to register. Once registered they will not be transferable in CA. Originally Posted By buss45:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
Are current bullet button ARs grandfathered or did they say FOAD like with the hi-cap mags? The little that I read had said that they will not be, but you can register it as an "assault weapon" (their wording, not mine) with the state and be allowed to keep it. I believe we will have till 1/1/2018 to register. Once registered they will not be transferable in CA. Over a mag release............fucking clownshoes
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CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
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Originally Posted By buss45:
I believe we will have till 1/1/2018 to register. Once registered they will not be transferable in CA. Originally Posted By buss45:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
Are current bullet button ARs grandfathered or did they say FOAD like with the hi-cap mags? The little that I read had said that they will not be, but you can register it as an "assault weapon" (their wording, not mine) with the state and be allowed to keep it. I believe we will have till 1/1/2018 to register. Once registered they will not be transferable in CA. I suppose anyone moving into the state has to forfeit/destroy or sell beforehand too. That's tens of millions of Americans restricted from moving there unless they dispose of lawfully owned property in 49 other states, smart move CA. |
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Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
I suppose anyone moving into the state has to forfeit/destroy or sell beforehand too. That's tens of millions of Americans restricted from moving there unless they dispose of lawfully owned property in 49 other states, smart move CA. Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
Originally Posted By buss45:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
Are current bullet button ARs grandfathered or did they say FOAD like with the hi-cap mags? The little that I read had said that they will not be, but you can register it as an "assault weapon" (their wording, not mine) with the state and be allowed to keep it. I believe we will have till 1/1/2018 to register. Once registered they will not be transferable in CA. I suppose anyone moving into the state has to forfeit/destroy or sell beforehand too. That's tens of millions of Americans restricted from moving there unless they dispose of lawfully owned property in 49 other states, smart move CA. Also have to forfeit/destroy any mag over 10 rounds too. No grandfathering. |
Squire
CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
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My wife and I were just discussing my looking for a new practice due to some new leadership changes at my hospital... I told her our new location was dictated by current and potential future gun legislation for this very reason.
Texas quickly moved to the top of the list of potential relocation options :) |
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Also have to forfeit/destroy any mag over 10 rounds too. No grandfathering. Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
Originally Posted By buss45:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
Are current bullet button ARs grandfathered or did they say FOAD like with the hi-cap mags? The little that I read had said that they will not be, but you can register it as an "assault weapon" (their wording, not mine) with the state and be allowed to keep it. I believe we will have till 1/1/2018 to register. Once registered they will not be transferable in CA. I suppose anyone moving into the state has to forfeit/destroy or sell beforehand too. That's tens of millions of Americans restricted from moving there unless they dispose of lawfully owned property in 49 other states, smart move CA. Also have to forfeit/destroy any mag over 10 rounds too. No grandfathering. So, will they have to go with something like the below, or is that out too? 
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Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
So, will they have to go with something like the below, or is that out too? http://static1.squarespace.com/static/51d87e77e4b0c6a357c4abd1/t/5338ded3e4b0a1f2af93823a/1396235989515/mmgrfle.png From what I understand, it bans ALL magazines over 10 rounds PERIOD. |
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CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
From what I understand, it bans ALL magazines over 10 rounds PERIOD. Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
So, will they have to go with something like the below, or is that out too? http://static1.squarespace.com/static/51d87e77e4b0c6a357c4abd1/t/5338ded3e4b0a1f2af93823a/1396235989515/mmgrfle.png From what I understand, it bans ALL magazines over 10 rounds PERIOD. Yes, I know that, but to make your AR not an assault weapon to avoid registration and when you die your kid can get it or whatever. Edit: look at the grip, not the mag. |
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Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
Yes, I know that, but to make your AR not an assault weapon to avoid registration and when you die your kid can get it or whatever. Edit: look at the grip, not the mag. Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
So, will they have to go with something like the below, or is that out too? http://static1.squarespace.com/static/51d87e77e4b0c6a357c4abd1/t/5338ded3e4b0a1f2af93823a/1396235989515/mmgrfle.png From what I understand, it bans ALL magazines over 10 rounds PERIOD. Yes, I know that, but to make your AR not an assault weapon to avoid registration and when you die your kid can get it or whatever. Edit: look at the grip, not the mag. They already have to do something like that to get away with a mag release feature I believe. |
Squire
CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
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Originally Posted By jointdoc:
My wife and I were just discussing my looking for a new practice due to some new leadership changes at my hospital... I told her our new location was dictated by current and potential future gun legislation for this very reason. Texas quickly moved to the top of the list of potential relocation options :) I don't live there....but make it happen. I hear it's a great state and it'll get you a little closer to LT. 
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Originally Posted By PhilChordoma:
Will those pump action ARs be allowed in? Will buying a Beowulf upper allow you to keep the mags as they hold 10 rounds of Beo? I'd be surprised if anything in .50 was legal before this anyway. |
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CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
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We are gonna need something like this.
https://www.armaglock.com/video/ |
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
I'd be surprised if anything in .50 was legal before this anyway. Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By PhilChordoma:
Will those pump action ARs be allowed in? Will buying a Beowulf upper allow you to keep the mags as they hold 10 rounds of Beo? I'd be surprised if anything in .50 was legal before this anyway. Anything 50 is a no-go. Socom is GTG though, that's what I was thinking if I lived there. Get a 458 socom upper and buy Lancer 7rd 458 socom printed mags (they're modified 20 round 556). |
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Originally Posted By buss45:
We are gonna need something like this. https://www.armaglock.com/video/ That's just ridiculous. |
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Originally Posted By buss45:
We are gonna need something like this. https://www.armaglock.com/video/ Says "NY Approved" but I have a feeling Cali will still view it as a detachable mag. |
Squire
CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
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Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
Anything 50 is a no-go. Socom is GTG though, that's what I was thinking if I lived there. Get a 458 socom upper and buy Lancer 7rd 458 socom printed mags (they're modified 20 round 556). Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By PhilChordoma:
Will those pump action ARs be allowed in? Will buying a Beowulf upper allow you to keep the mags as they hold 10 rounds of Beo? I'd be surprised if anything in .50 was legal before this anyway. Anything 50 is a no-go. Socom is GTG though, that's what I was thinking if I lived there. Get a 458 socom upper and buy Lancer 7rd 458 socom printed mags (they're modified 20 round 556). That might be an option. |
Squire
CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
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50 BMG is banned not 50 Beowulf
http://www.alexanderarms.com/products/product-faqs |
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Originally Posted By buss45:
50 BMG is banned not 50 Beowulf http://www.alexanderarms.com/products/product-faqs Ah. Good to know. |
Squire
CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
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Lol. I'd rather build M21s than deal with that shit. |
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Originally Posted By Imyourhuckelberry:
Sorry for those who live there....Glad I live in the greatest state of them all where non of this bs would ever happen! If you don't live in Alaska you might ought to reconsider your statement... Have you been to Austin lately? Real estate prices around Austin are indicative of an influx of none other than... Californians. Where do you think this state is headed if enough of them come here with their panty wasted ideal of totalitarian government? |
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Over a mag release............fucking clownshoes Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By buss45:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
Are current bullet button ARs grandfathered or did they say FOAD like with the hi-cap mags? The little that I read had said that they will not be, but you can register it as an "assault weapon" (their wording, not mine) with the state and be allowed to keep it. I believe we will have till 1/1/2018 to register. Once registered they will not be transferable in CA. Over a mag release............fucking clownshoes What will be interesting, is the first accident as the result of an unsafe/malfunctioning rifle that cannot be cleared. A.W.D. |
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Originally Posted By TXHillCountry: So, will they have to go with something like the below, or is that out too? http://static1.squarespace.com/static/51d87e77e4b0c6a357c4abd1/t/5338ded3e4b0a1f2af93823a/1396235989515/mmgrfle.png Now, AB 1663, which bans the bullet button, redefines an "assault weapon" to be any centerfire semi auto that does not have a fixed mag, regardless of features, or lack of features.....THEREFORE, according to my reading of it, featureless rifles will also need to be registered as AW's...so there is no point in them being featureless any longer...assuming you are going to register |
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Originally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter:
We already had "featureless" builds to get around the Bullet Button. Now, AB 1663, which bans the bullet button, redefines an "assault weapon" to be any centerfire semi auto that does not have a fixed mag, regardless of features, or lack of features.....THEREFORE, according to my reading of it, featureless rifles will also need to be registered as AW's...so there is no point in them being featureless any longer...assuming you are going to register Originally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter:
Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
So, will they have to go with something like the below, or is that out too? http://static1.squarespace.com/static/51d87e77e4b0c6a357c4abd1/t/5338ded3e4b0a1f2af93823a/1396235989515/mmgrfle.png Now, AB 1663, which bans the bullet button, redefines an "assault weapon" to be any centerfire semi auto that does not have a fixed mag, regardless of features, or lack of features.....THEREFORE, according to my reading of it, featureless rifles will also need to be registered as AW's...so there is no point in them being featureless any longer...assuming you are going to register 30515. (a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, “assault weapon” also in regards to the new law means any of the following: (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine but with a magazine capable of being detached without disassembly of the action and has any one of the following: (A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon. (B) A thumbhole stock. (C) A folding or telescoping stock. (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher. (E) A flash suppressor. (F) A forward pistol grip. It seems like M14s/M21s/ARs with goofy grip stocks would still not be AWs, still featureless. |
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Originally Posted By jaycoux:
If enough people make the law unenforceable it will go away eventually. Time to make a decision for the good people that are left. Disobedience to an unconstitutional law is the answer. Good luck to you. Sorry it ever got to this point. This. |
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Originally Posted By Imyourhuckelberry:
Sorry for those who live there....Glad I live in the greatest state of them all where non of this bs would ever happen! Those Kalifornian commies are flocking to your state, Texas will be blue in the next 15-20 years. And then the union will be finished. |
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I am sad for the residents of CA. They have just created the perfect killing field for criminals. You better practice so you can make good use of those 10 rounds.
Question: I drive HWY 199 pretty regularly from Grants Pass to Gold Beach. About 40 miles of it travel through CA. If I am carrying a pistol in a safe that does have magazines over 10 round capacity am I screwed if I am stopped for speeding? I know the whole don't tell routine but if a cop sees may safe and asks whats in it. I say my wife jewelry and he decides I am lying and that is enough to search my car, am I fucked? |
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There is an amendment for the constitution that is supposed to address that.....
... I forget which one it is...... |
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