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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Meh. I laid the TranQuilo out and snatched away material wherever it made sense. ML View Quote |
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From what I understand, the thermal properties of the weld on a welded can are not consistent with the non-weld portions of the can. When it heats up, it does so unevenly (and expands/contracts likewise), which can change the POI. A fully machined can would be more thermally consistent, and therefore experience less POI shift.
The Tranquilo is also specially designed to minimize blowback. There is a flowpath in the can that directs blown back gases out the front around, but not through, the bullet's pathway. The long flow path and large exit diameter would mean that the blowback gas exits rather slowly, and therefore shouldn't reduce recoil. At least that is what I can gather from the web. I hope to order mine soon. |
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So, you buy an Ultimate Upper Kit with the TranQuilo.
Can someone run me through the paperwork procedures for Texas residents? Is Texas Valet still an option? Any ideas on how long the wait is for a tax stamp? What additional cost is there other than a $200 tax stamp? Is a trust still necessary? I haven't been keeping up on the forums but this deal drew me back to the dark side. Darth Vader only wishes he was Mark. I could hear myself saying, "I must resist, I must resist." It was too late. The upper and suppressor was in the cart and my money was gone. Lower getting ordered payday. Now the wait starts. |
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Originally Posted By texaspartsman:
So, you buy an Ultimate Upper Kit with the TranQuilo. Can someone run me through the paperwork procedures for Texas residents? Is Texas Valet still an option? Any ideas on how long the wait is for a tax stamp? What additional cost is there other than a $200 tax stamp? Is a trust still necessary? I haven't been keeping up on the forums but this deal drew me back to the dark side. Darth Vader only wishes he was Mark. I could hear myself saying, "I must resist, I must resist." It was too late. The upper and suppressor was in the cart and my money was gone. Lower getting ordered payday. Now the wait starts. View Quote You transfer it to a class 3 ffl near you. That ffl will likely charge you $100 for the transfer and to help process the form 4. You do not NEED a trust anymore but highly recommended to you can easily hand it down after you die. The ffl will help direct you how to do the paperwork and get finger prints and photos. Pay the are $200... Then you wait a year or more. |
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Originally Posted By kameronatm1:
...You transfer it to a class 3 ffl near you. That ffl will likely charge you $100 for the transfer and to help process the form 4... View Quote |
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Originally Posted By JohnLWare:
So LaRue does not handle the Form 4 for Texas residents? I think both Capitol Armory and Silencer Shop will assist with the Form 4, which allows Texas residents to skip the Form 3 transfer (and any associated fee) to another FFL/SOT. Once the Form 4 is approved, they will ship the suppressor directly to the transferee (you). View Quote |
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Originally Posted By kameronatm1:
They used to but when the new fingerprint/photo regulations came out they stopped. They don't have a store front, they are a manufacturer I understand that. If you aren't buying a Tranquilo, CapitolArmory is the best! View Quote |
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• Try to find a gun range that will handle the transfer. I found one close to home. They charged $100 to handle the Form 4, and I get to shoot the TranQuilo while I’m waiting for ATF approval. They have a SilencerShop kiosk in the lobby, so it pretty streamlined.
• I will bet a dillo against kameronatm1 or anyone else that the wait will be inside of 5 months if you submit today • If you are married, just get a trust. |
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$75 for my transfer, $50 of that is the silencer shop fee to process.
So $75 fee, $205 SS tax stamp, $25 for trust. $405 taxes an fees. Sucks the taxes and fees are more than the suppressor. Thing would be half the cost without the NFA. |
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3 weeks in on my form 3. Dang ATF probably sitting on someone's desk collecting dust.
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Looks good! Got to get more breaks my self.
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I am going to go broke buying TranQuilo muzzle brakes for my heard.
Thanks for all the info. Waiting for the email from Larue so I can get started. |
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Originally Posted By 8235e75:
$75 for my transfer, $50 of that is the silencer shop fee to process. So $75 fee, $205 SS tax stamp, $25 for trust. $405 taxes an fees. Sucks the taxes and fees are more than the suppressor. Thing would be half the cost without the NFA. View Quote 75, 205 = 280 plus 25 is 305 |
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Fuck I need a vacation.
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Did not account for state sales tax though. But dam my bad.
Actual number $336.88 taxes and fees. This includes Texas sales tax. I need to watch what I type some times. Thanks for correcting me. |
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It's all good.
My Larue tranquillo swag came today. It was a tranquillo owner edition hat. Tan with black embroidery. That was it. So now I'll see if maybe the dealer it is at will let me touch jt And even use it while at the range |
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Originally Posted By JohnLWare:
I haven't received the hat yet, but don't forget the BA pouch the suppressor ships in... Armageddon Gear sells a similar pouch for $30. It's pretty cool to get something that nice with a $399 can. $399 is rimfire can pricing! https://s25.postimg.org/3tp9ltfjz/IMG_6772.jpg https://s25.postimg.org/4x9dxs073/IMG_6774.jpg View Quote |
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Oh boy. That picture is going to make the wait harder.
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Originally Posted By JohnLWare:
Ordered 8/29. The TQ arrived at my FFL/SOT on 9/7. View Quote But on the plus side got the 6.5g together with the lower. Need to shoot some. Guess I will call next week to check. |
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Mine hasn't shipped either. Where is the typical hold up? It says NFA pending.
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TSPC.CO
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I called a week and a half ago and they told me waiting on ATF.
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One place I shop is reporting that Form 3 wait times are currently running 1-40 days.
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government efficiency at its best.
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OK guys, I'm thinking about taking the plunge.
While I'm in AZ, I'm moving to TX next summer, but I am so tempted to take the chance and get going on my first suppressor(s) now! Don't want to wait another 8-9 months just to start the real wait... Are we seeing TranQuilos as typically in stock and ready for shipment to my AZ FFL to get paperwork started? A.W.D. |
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Seven. The answer is always seven.
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Originally Posted By Wiz-of-Awd:
OK guys, I'm thinking about taking the plunge. While I'm in AZ, I'm moving to TX next summer, but I am so tempted to take the chance and get going on my first suppressor(s) now! Don't want to wait another 8-9 months just to start the real wait... Are we seeing TranQuilos as typically in stock and ready for shipment to my AZ FFL to get paperwork started? A.W.D. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By IMSHAKN:
Yes, the hang up currently is on ATF paperwork. I ordered my TQ end of last month and it didn't get transferred to my dealer until last week. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By IMSHAKN:
Originally Posted By Wiz-of-Awd:
OK guys, I'm thinking about taking the plunge. While I'm in AZ, I'm moving to TX next summer, but I am so tempted to take the chance and get going on my first suppressor(s) now! Don't want to wait another 8-9 months just to start the real wait... Are we seeing TranQuilos as typically in stock and ready for shipment to my AZ FFL to get paperwork started? A.W.D. If one orders from LaRue, to be transferred to (and through) a local FFL, what ATF paperwork is involved other than my form 4 submission? Is LaRue able to simply send the suppressor to the receiving FFL for NFA transfer process to me, the end user? A.W.D. |
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Seven. The answer is always seven.
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A drawl doesn't mean I'm ignorant, just Southern..
GA, USA
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Originally Posted By Wiz-of-Awd:
Educate me if you could please, as I have no experience whatsoever in any of this - being previously from Kalifornistan. If one orders from LaRue, to be transferred to (and through) a local FFL, what ATF paperwork is involved other than my form 4 submission? Is LaRue able to simply send the suppressor to the receiving FFL for NFA transfer process to me, the end user? A.W.D. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Draconis:
...If I understand it right (and someone can correct me if not) first a Form 3 has to be submitted and approved by the ATF just to get it from LT to your SOT/FFL....Then the Form 4 is submitted and approved by the ATF to transfer from your SOT/FFL to you.... View Quote |
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What does everyone really feel/best educated guess, is the current wait time for new individual filings?
I keep seeing some say, "3-4" months if starting "today," and others seem to think still could be close to a year. A.W.D. |
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Seven. The answer is always seven.
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Originally Posted By Wiz-of-Awd:
What does everyone really feel/best educated guess, is the current wait time for new individual filings? I keep seeing some say, "3-4" months if starting "today," and others seem to think still could be close to a year. A.W.D. View Quote No one really knows for sure, but if the trend is truly downward, I would plan on 8 months for an individual Form 4, and then be excited if it is approved sooner. Also, if you start now and buy one a month, after ~8 months you should never have to wait more than ~30 days for your next NFA item. |
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Originally Posted By Pjatton:
I think it's safe to say that I'm eagerly awaiting for my form 4 to go through... https://i.imgur.com/7ykkIT6.jpg?4 View Quote |
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Originally Posted By JohnLWare:
No one really knows for sure, but if the trend is truly downward, I would plan on 8 months for an individual Form 4, and then be excited if it is approved sooner. Also, if you start now and buy one a month, after ~8 months you should never have to wait more than ~30 days for your next NFA item. View Quote I do like your line of thinking here though. A.W.D. |
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Seven. The answer is always seven.
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Seven. The answer is always seven.
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Originally Posted By Wiz-of-Awd:
Yeah, I would like to, only I don't want to end up in a position of being ready to leave AZ (next Summer, early or late unsure) while still in process. That would suck. A.W.D. View Quote You don't really think you're the first person who had to move after filing an ATF form, do you? |
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Originally Posted By 35Remington:
No, it would not suck. It would be very easy to deal with and might actually result in getting your can *faster,* as I explained previously. You don't really think you're the first person who had to move after filing an ATF form, do you? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 35Remington:
Originally Posted By Wiz-of-Awd:
Yeah, I would like to, only I don't want to end up in a position of being ready to leave AZ (next Summer, early or late unsure) while still in process. That would suck. A.W.D. You don't really think you're the first person who had to move after filing an ATF form, do you? TranQuilo ordered, and I shall visit my LGS this morning to inform them, as well as purchase a SF/556 can. Hell, it's only time and a bit of money. Here's to Lady Luck and the power of ARFCOM and the LT Crew... Thanks for the nudge, A.W.D. |
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Seven. The answer is always seven.
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Originally Posted By Wiz-of-Awd:
Points taken, as well as the "plunge." TranQuilo ordered, and I shall visit my LGS this morning to inform them, as well as purchase a SF/556 can. Hell, it's only time and a bit of money. Here's to Lady Luck and the power of ARFCOM and the LT Crew... Thanks for the nudge, A.W.D. View Quote |
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Wait times will be nothing like it has been from the rush to get in before the law changed.
Every day you wait adds one more of waiting |
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"I'm a big kid now!" keeps playing over and over in my head...
A.W.D. |
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Just got tracking number for swag & TQ.
Ordered on the 30th August, tracking 26 September. |
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Only one pound so I'm thinking hat. But will let you know.
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Owners edition hat.
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Range Report.
Tranquillo performs as advertised and then some. Host is a SIG716 that had a Rugged Surge on it. No matter what I did, it ejected at one o'clock which made it a major pain in the butt to collect my brass on a hot range. Tranquillo OTOH ejects perfectly at 4:30 in a nice consistent pile, would not of believed it if I hadn't seen it, No detectable smoke in the face. You can taste the smoke from the Rugged Surge. The color of the Tranquillo closely matched the ceracote FDE used by SIG even though it's not ceracoated. Mirage seems to be less of a problem ... I can fire more shots before mirage is a problem. No empirical study made to back up that assertion. Time will prove me out. POI changed to 10 in high and 3 inches to the left compared to the RS suppressor. Only complaint and it is a small two edged one. It is a real biotch installing a suppressor cover on top of those ridges. OTOH, I don't have to worry about it slipping off. (Rifles Only HAD) Summary, that suppressor will permanently reside on that rifle till I can replace it with a LT rifle in the future. |
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how did it sound ?
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Mmm can't wait. Form 4 and trust completed with silencer shop on Friday. Now the waiting begins.
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