[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Field Grade Replacement (Page 1 of 10)
Posted: 6/16/2014 1:42:36 PM EDT
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Has anybody had a Field Grade barrel replaced by LaRue? I have an order number for an 18" 5.56 barrel for my PredatAR, but haven't heard about any movement in that regard.
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"I've told our barrel guys to get ahead enough to take care of you folks with the FG barrels ... likely an email going out in the next couple weeks asking what length you're gonna want ... assuming you're gonna want a different length than the one that you got." that post generated a lot of flurry and excitement but no word yet on any barrels leaving |
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Quoted: Has anybody had a Field Grade barrel replaced by LaRue? I have an order number for an 18" 5.56 barrel for my PredatAR, but haven't heard about any movement in that regard. Anybody? Good luck and good shooting, Tommy You will receive a match grade barrel. Dont think any 5.56 field grade barrels were released to anybody.
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| when those with match grade coupon start getting their new barrel-please post so we will know that there is some movement.I would think that they would start with the oldest orders first-but who knows.Hopefully,and based on MLs response,that some movement would begin very soon? |
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<a href="http://s1148.photobucket.com/user/swampdonkey13/media/019.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o570/swampdonkey13/019.jpg</a> 18" 5.56 Predatar Weird. I thought the only Field grades out there were 7.62 tOBR barrels. So that's interesting to know that there were 5.56 tAR Field barrels sent. Seeing as how the tAR doesn't have the breakdown capability of the tOBR I'm assuming that the entire upper will have to be sent back to Larue to have barrel swapped. All along I thought we were just talking about tOBRs which could be swapped easily by end user. Again, assuming a full barrel assembly was sent and not just barrel itself. |
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Weird. I thought the only Field grades out there were 7.62 tOBR barrels. So that's interesting to know that there were 5.56 tAR Field barrels sent. Seeing as how the tAR doesn't have the breakdown capability of the tOBR I'm assuming that the entire upper will have to be sent back to Larue to have barrel swapped. All along I thought we were just talking about tOBRs which could be swapped easily by end user. Again, assuming a full barrel assembly was sent and not just barrel itself. Quoted:
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<a href="http://s1148.photobucket.com/user/swampdonkey13/media/019.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o570/swampdonkey13/019.jpg</a> 18" 5.56 Predatar Weird. I thought the only Field grades out there were 7.62 tOBR barrels. So that's interesting to know that there were 5.56 tAR Field barrels sent. Seeing as how the tAR doesn't have the breakdown capability of the tOBR I'm assuming that the entire upper will have to be sent back to Larue to have barrel swapped. All along I thought we were just talking about tOBRs which could be swapped easily by end user. Again, assuming a full barrel assembly was sent and not just barrel itself. Mine's an 18" PredatAR 5.56. I show a no-charge invoice in my on-line account for a match barrel, so I assume LaRue will call or email when they're ready to replace the FG. I am further assuiming that I'll need to send them the complete upper at that time. 
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That's the good thing about a TOBR, we won't need to send ours in to replace the barrel, we can swap it out in about one minute flat...... Should know in about "two weeks"......  This assumes that LT is sending an entire barrel assembly. If they're just sending barrel, the muzzle device, barrel nut, gas block, and gas tube have to be swapped over. Still have no idea what the coupon will actually be good for and what the process will be.
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Quoted: This assumes that LT is sending an entire barrel assembly. If they're just sending barrel, the muzzle device, barrel nut, gas block, and gas tube have to be swapped over. Still have no idea what the coupon will actually be good for and what the process will be.
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Per Mark F. the match grade barrel replacement will consist of the barrel, PST gas block switch and whatever muzzle brake you originally ordered. That was clarified in the original thread. Who will have to send what back, is anyone's guess. They've been tight-lipped about how all that is going to work
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Per Mark F. the match grade barrel replacement will consist of the barrel, PST gas block switch and whatever muzzle brake you originally ordered. That was clarified in the original thread. Who will have to send what back, is anyone's guess. They've been tight-lipped about how all that is going to work
I would think the OBR and PTAR owners will need to send their weapons back in order to keep their warranty valid. We TOBR owners will probably have that option, albeit I can't imagine anyone taking that option since they came to us in pieces to begin with. In the meantime, I am enjoying the wonderful accuracy being currently delivered by my FG barrel..... |
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I would think the OBR and PTAR owners will need to send their weapons back in order to keep their warranty valid. We TOBR owners will probably have that option, albeit I can't imagine anyone taking that option since they came to us in pieces to begin with. In the meantime, I am enjoying the wonderful accuracy being currently delivered by my FG barrel..... Quoted:
Per Mark F. the match grade barrel replacement will consist of the barrel, PST gas block switch and whatever muzzle brake you originally ordered. That was clarified in the original thread. Who will have to send what back, is anyone's guess. They've been tight-lipped about how all that is going to work
I would think the OBR and PTAR owners will need to send their weapons back in order to keep their warranty valid. We TOBR owners will probably have that option, albeit I can't imagine anyone taking that option since they came to us in pieces to begin with. In the meantime, I am enjoying the wonderful accuracy being currently delivered by my FG barrel..... Good for you, with an accurate field grade! When you receive your match barrel you should have 2 accurate barrels in hand. :-) My Field Grade, not so accurate. :-( I'm really looking forward to having it swapped out. Good Luck and Good Shooting, Tommy |
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Per Mark F. the match grade barrel replacement will consist of the barrel, PST gas block switch and whatever muzzle brake you originally ordered. That was clarified in the original thread. Who will have to send what back, is anyone's guess. They've been tight-lipped about how all that is going to work Quoted:
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That's the good thing about a TOBR, we won't need to send ours in to replace the barrel, we can swap it out in about one minute flat...... Should know in about "two weeks"...... This assumes that LT is sending an entire barrel assembly. If they're just sending barrel, the muzzle device, barrel nut, gas block, and gas tube have to be swapped over. Still have no idea what the coupon will actually be good for and what the process will be.
Per Mark F. the match grade barrel replacement will consist of the barrel, PST gas block switch and whatever muzzle brake you originally ordered. That was clarified in the original thread. Who will have to send what back, is anyone's guess. They've been tight-lipped about how all that is going to work I hope you're right as I'd prefer a full barrel assembly and to avoid having to send upper back to LT. BUT the original thread you referred to, I don't see any mention of PST gas block, barrel nut, or gas tube. Only muzzle attachment. I've always kind of assumed we were talking barrel assembly because I didn't know there were tARs and OBRs with field grade barrels. Original Thread |
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Good for you, with an accurate field grade! When you receive your match barrel you should have 2 accurate barrels in hand. :-) My Field Grade, not so accurate. :-( I'm really looking forward to having it swapped out. Good Luck and Good Shooting, Tommy Quoted:
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Per Mark F. the match grade barrel replacement will consist of the barrel, PST gas block switch and whatever muzzle brake you originally ordered. That was clarified in the original thread. Who will have to send what back, is anyone's guess. They've been tight-lipped about how all that is going to work
I would think the OBR and PTAR owners will need to send their weapons back in order to keep their warranty valid. We TOBR owners will probably have that option, albeit I can't imagine anyone taking that option since they came to us in pieces to begin with. In the meantime, I am enjoying the wonderful accuracy being currently delivered by my FG barrel..... Good for you, with an accurate field grade! When you receive your match barrel you should have 2 accurate barrels in hand. :-) My Field Grade, not so accurate. :-( I'm really looking forward to having it swapped out. Good Luck and Good Shooting, Tommy Mine group's about .75 with American Eagle 168gr OTM M-1A ammo, not necessarily match quality ammo or results, but still very accurate and certainly good enough for self defense or hunting at the ranges I will be seeing..... |
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I hope you're right as I'd prefer a full barrel assembly and to avoid having to send upper back to LT. BUT the original thread you referred to, I don't see any mention of PST gas block, barrel nut, or gas tube. Only muzzle attachment. Original Thread Quoted:
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That's the good thing about a TOBR, we won't need to send ours in to replace the barrel, we can swap it out in about one minute flat...... Should know in about "two weeks"...... This assumes that LT is sending an entire barrel assembly. If they're just sending barrel, the muzzle device, barrel nut, gas block, and gas tube have to be swapped over. Still have no idea what the coupon will actually be good for and what the process will be.
Per Mark F. the match grade barrel replacement will consist of the barrel, PST gas block switch and whatever muzzle brake you originally ordered. That was clarified in the original thread. Who will have to send what back, is anyone's guess. They've been tight-lipped about how all that is going to work I hope you're right as I'd prefer a full barrel assembly and to avoid having to send upper back to LT. BUT the original thread you referred to, I don't see any mention of PST gas block, barrel nut, or gas tube. Only muzzle attachment. Original Thread Fingar said "You'll get what you ordered, pinned and welded on both Field Grade and Match. " You didn't order a stripped barrel, you ordered a complete barrel assembly. So, that's what you'll get. Think about it this way - if you have a 14.5" barrel coming to you with a P&W SF SOCOM brake, it will have to be complete in order for you to use the barrel. |
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Fingar said "You'll get what you ordered, pinned and welded on both Field Grade and Match. " You didn't order a stripped barrel, you ordered a complete barrel assembly. So, that's what you'll get. Think about it this way - if you have a 14.5" barrel coming to you with a P&W SF SOCOM brake, it will have to be complete in order for you to use the barrel. Quoted:
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That's the good thing about a TOBR, we won't need to send ours in to replace the barrel, we can swap it out in about one minute flat...... Should know in about "two weeks"...... This assumes that LT is sending an entire barrel assembly. If they're just sending barrel, the muzzle device, barrel nut, gas block, and gas tube have to be swapped over. Still have no idea what the coupon will actually be good for and what the process will be.
Per Mark F. the match grade barrel replacement will consist of the barrel, PST gas block switch and whatever muzzle brake you originally ordered. That was clarified in the original thread. Who will have to send what back, is anyone's guess. They've been tight-lipped about how all that is going to work I hope you're right as I'd prefer a full barrel assembly and to avoid having to send upper back to LT. BUT the original thread you referred to, I don't see any mention of PST gas block, barrel nut, or gas tube. Only muzzle attachment. Original Thread Fingar said "You'll get what you ordered, pinned and welded on both Field Grade and Match. " You didn't order a stripped barrel, you ordered a complete barrel assembly. So, that's what you'll get. Think about it this way - if you have a 14.5" barrel coming to you with a P&W SF SOCOM brake, it will have to be complete in order for you to use the barrel. His answer was to a question regarding muzzle attachment on 14.5". So will everyone with a field barrel get a full barrel assembly? tOBR, tAR, and OBR? 14.5, 16, 18? |
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His answer was to a question regarding muzzle attachment on 14.5". So will everyone with a field barrel get a full barrel assembly? tOBR, tAR, and OBR? 14.5, 16, 18? Well, only ML or MF can tell us that for sure, but that's the way that I read it. You will get a match barrel to the exact specs that you originally ordered. But, you also have the option to change length per a couple of comments by ML. I wonder how many coupons are out there - has anyone seen or heard mention of a number? |
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Well, only ML or MF can tell us that for sure, but that's the way that I read it. You will get a match barrel to the exact specs that you originally ordered. But, you also have the option to change length per a couple of comments by ML. I wonder how many coupons are out there - has anyone seen or heard mention of a number? Quoted:
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His answer was to a question regarding muzzle attachment on 14.5". So will everyone with a field barrel get a full barrel assembly? tOBR, tAR, and OBR? 14.5, 16, 18? Well, only ML or MF can tell us that for sure, but that's the way that I read it. You will get a match barrel to the exact specs that you originally ordered. But, you also have the option to change length per a couple of comments by ML. I wonder how many coupons are out there - has anyone seen or heard mention of a number? I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Going on 9 months now... Im curious on number of coupons as well. Had no idea there were tAR and OBRs out there with field grades. |
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Is there a way or are there any markings that will let you know what barrel I currently have on my TOBR In the Field Grade vs. Match Grade aspect, the Field Grades are marked "FIELD GRADE" at the muzzle. For LT in-house mfg vs. LW I can't help ya. But as far as I know, only "FIELD GRADE" and Match Grade have been shopped on tOBRs, so if yours doesn't indicate "FIELD GRADE" then you know it is a Match Grade. |
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In the Field Grade vs. Match Grade aspect, the Field Grades are marked "FIELD GRADE" at the muzzle. For LT in-house mfg vs. LW I can't help ya. But as far as I know, only "FIELD GRADE" and Match Grade have been shopped on tOBRs, so if yours doesn't indicate "FIELD GRADE" then you know it is a Match Grade. Quoted:
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Is there a way or are there any markings that will let you know what barrel I currently have on my TOBR In the Field Grade vs. Match Grade aspect, the Field Grades are marked "FIELD GRADE" at the muzzle. For LT in-house mfg vs. LW I can't help ya. But as far as I know, only "FIELD GRADE" and Match Grade have been shopped on tOBRs, so if yours doesn't indicate "FIELD GRADE" then you know it is a Match Grade. Not true, first 18" 7.62 tOBR shipped (according to Julie) #25192 owner here. I emailed asking about barrel coupon and was told by JP Morgan that mine had the "standard" barrel that was not made in house. It shoots ok, but not impressed (around 1 MOA). Kinda expected more from a $3400 rifle. So much for "If you're not happy..." |
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Not true, first 18" 7.62 tOBR shipped (according to Julie) #25192 owner here. I emailed asking about barrel coupon and was told by JP Morgan that mine had the "standard" barrel that was not made in house. It shoots ok, but not impressed (around 1 MOA). Kinda expected more from a $3400 rifle. So much for "If you're not happy..." Quoted:
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Is there a way or are there any markings that will let you know what barrel I currently have on my TOBR In the Field Grade vs. Match Grade aspect, the Field Grades are marked "FIELD GRADE" at the muzzle. For LT in-house mfg vs. LW I can't help ya. But as far as I know, only "FIELD GRADE" and Match Grade have been shopped on tOBRs, so if yours doesn't indicate "FIELD GRADE" then you know it is a Match Grade. Not true, first 18" 7.62 tOBR shipped (according to Julie) #25192 owner here. I emailed asking about barrel coupon and was told by JP Morgan that mine had the "standard" barrel that was not made in house. It shoots ok, but not impressed (around 1 MOA). Kinda expected more from a $3400 rifle. So much for "If you're not happy..." Field grade is field grade. In house is in house. Standard is probably from previous barrel supply so yeah, I guess you can feel better now. 
Pilot error on the rifle? Or have you run different loads and different shooters? |
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I've tried 168gr GMM, 175gr GMM, 168gr Matchkings over Varget and RL-15, 168 AMAX over Varget, RL-15, h4895, and Benchmark. Nothing close to .5 MOA like in house "field grade" barrels are producing, hence the frustration. I'd like to think it's not me as I can shoot 5 shot groups with my .204 AR that can be covered with a dime, with room to spare. I'm still searching, but like i said, i paid big money for a Larue not to have to drop a bunch of money into reloading components. It's still fun though! I've got some 190gr Matchkings and some 208gr AMAXs (for 300BLK), but not sure they'll stabilize, assuming my barrel is 11.25 twist.
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Quoted: I've tried 168gr GMM, 175gr GMM, 168gr Matchkings over Varget and RL-15, 168 AMAX over Varget, RL-15, h4895, and Benchmark. Nothing close to .5 MOA like in house "field grade" barrels are producing, hence the frustration. I'd like to think it's not me as I can shoot 5 shot groups with my .204 AR that can be covered with a dime, with room to spare. I'm still searching, but like i said, i paid big money for a Larue not to have to drop a bunch of money into reloading components. It's still fun though! I've got some 190gr Matchkings and some 208gr AMAXs (for 300BLK), but not sure they'll stabilize, assuming my barrel is 11.25 twist.Don't know where in Texas you are, but there are a few of us PredatOBR owners that shoot out at Best of the West in Liberty Hill. Nice place, got a 1000 yard range, good RO's. If you are close by send me a pm if you ever want to go. Sure we could trade some reloading info and hopefully get you going a little bit better. j |
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Not trying to be a downer but I cannot see the match grade barrels coming with a test target. Quoted:
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I can't wait to receive my match grade barrel and get a chance to post in the "I outshot Larue's shootist" thread.  I've seen more than enough to know that the match grade barrels are solid. My 18" 7.62 Field Grade is solid. I wouldn't be sad if mine came without a test target. |
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I've seen more than enough to know that the match grade barrels are solid. My 18" 7.62 Field Grade is solid. I wouldn't be sad if mine came without a test target. Quoted:
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I can't wait to receive my match grade barrel and get a chance to post in the "I outshot Larue's shootist" thread. I've seen more than enough to know that the match grade barrels are solid. My 18" 7.62 Field Grade is solid. I wouldn't be sad if mine came without a test target. You're right. It won't be a deal breaker if we don't get a test target, but Larue is a class act and I just can't see them sending out match grade barrels with their logo on it no less without proof firing it. |
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You're right. It won't be a deal breaker if we don't get a test target, but Larue is a class act and I just can't see them sending out match grade barrels with their logo on it no less without proof firing it. Quoted:
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I can't wait to receive my match grade barrel and get a chance to post in the "I outshot Larue's shootist" thread. I've seen more than enough to know that the match grade barrels are solid. My 18" 7.62 Field Grade is solid. I wouldn't be sad if mine came without a test target. You're right. It won't be a deal breaker if we don't get a test target, but Larue is a class act and I just can't see them sending out match grade barrels with their logo on it no less without proof firing it. I agree with your premise (that LaRue is tier 1), but I'm not sure how/why they would send a test target for a barrel. What would that prove? It would prove the barrel, in another rifle, installed by someone else, shot a certain way. Not necessarily the same thing as saying the barrel would shoot the same in your rifle after it's installed by you (no offense, just pointing out the difference). It is, after all, a system. That's what they are normally testing.... Just my .02 |
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I agree with your premise (that LaRue is tier 1), but I'm not sure how/why they would send a test target for a barrel. What would that prove? It would prove the barrel, in another rifle, installed by someone else, shot a certain way. Not necessarily the same thing as saying the barrel would shoot the same in your rifle after it's installed by you (no offense, just pointing out the difference). It is, after all, a system. That's what they are normally testing.... Just my .02 Quoted:
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I can't wait to receive my match grade barrel and get a chance to post in the "I outshot Larue's shootist" thread. I've seen more than enough to know that the match grade barrels are solid. My 18" 7.62 Field Grade is solid. I wouldn't be sad if mine came without a test target. You're right. It won't be a deal breaker if we don't get a test target, but Larue is a class act and I just can't see them sending out match grade barrels with their logo on it no less without proof firing it. I agree with your premise (that LaRue is tier 1), but I'm not sure how/why they would send a test target for a barrel. What would that prove? It would prove the barrel, in another rifle, installed by someone else, shot a certain way. Not necessarily the same thing as saying the barrel would shoot the same in your rifle after it's installed by you (no offense, just pointing out the difference). It is, after all, a system. That's what they are normally testing.... Just my .02 I hope that LaRue will install my match barrel. And I don't expect a test target, as my first choice would be to send them only my upper; not the whole rifle. Then again, if they're going to gaurantee that the package will group in 1 MOA or less, they may require that the whole rifle be sent back, for both installation and test firing. But we'll see what we see. As far as I know there have not been any FG barrels replaced, yet; so no precedent has been set. Good luck and good shooting, Tommy |
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At this point I'd just be happy to receive my MG barrel with or without a test target. I understand it being a system and at the heart of it is the barrel. It gets replaced when accuracy drops off after so many rounds. We're talking about tOBR rifles here whose whole selling point is the QD barrel which can be replaced in about a minute. That's why I think proof firing them wouldn't be unreasonable from a business standpoint.
I'm no expert and I don't pretend to be. But as a consumer I don't understand how a barrel can be certified without firing it. That would be akin to a brand new car rolling off the assembly line and loaded straight into delivery trucks without its engine being started. |
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At this point I'd just be happy to receive my MG barrel with or without a test target. I understand it being a system and at the heart of it is the barrel. It gets replaced when accuracy drops off after so many rounds. We're talking about tOBR rifles here whose whole selling point is the QD barrel which can be replaced in about a minute. That's why I think proof firing them wouldn't be unreasonable from a business standpoint. I'm no expert and I don't pretend to be. But as a consumer I don't understand how a barrel can be certified without firing it. That would be akin to a brand new car rolling off the assembly line and loaded straight into delivery trucks without its engine being started. There are some folks with OBRs and tARs that have Field barrels. So I suspect they will be sending their entire rifles back to LT. I cant imagine LT would simply install barrel and send it back without testing. |
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There are some folks with OBRs and tARs that have Field barrels. So I suspect they will be sending their entire rifles back to LT. I cant imagine LT would simply install barrel and send it back without testing. Quoted:
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At this point I'd just be happy to receive my MG barrel with or without a test target. I understand it being a system and at the heart of it is the barrel. It gets replaced when accuracy drops off after so many rounds. We're talking about tOBR rifles here whose whole selling point is the QD barrel which can be replaced in about a minute. That's why I think proof firing them wouldn't be unreasonable from a business standpoint. I'm no expert and I don't pretend to be. But as a consumer I don't understand how a barrel can be certified without firing it. That would be akin to a brand new car rolling off the assembly line and loaded straight into delivery trucks without its engine being started. There are some folks with OBRs and tARs that have Field barrels. So I suspect they will be sending their entire rifles back to LT. I cant imagine LT would simply install barrel and send it back without testing. +1 We are not talking about just tOBRs. My FG barrel is on a PredatAR, and there's another poster in this thread who also has an FG in a PredatAR... Good luck and good shooting, Tommy |
