[ARCHIVED THREAD] - PredatOBR Update PLEASE !!!! (Page 1 of 13)
Posted: 7/24/2012 1:58:48 PM EDT
| No Pictures/No Updates in a LONG time. Can you all throw us a bone? |
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6 posts down, should be some more info soon
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_219/222202_Muzzle_Device_Choices_on_762_PredatOBRs____.html |
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The PredatOBR is only a myth. Created by ML to drive us crazy. No doubt. I really wanted one of these but ended up getting a tAR because I saw how long guys had been waiting for the tARs and since the tORBs were still only a thought on the website I figured I would be waitng a LOOOONG time. Hell I'm at 18 weeks on my tAR!! haha |
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No more LW-50 barrels, they stopped shipping them to LT 9 months ago. Where did this come from? LW-50 is not the end all be all of barrels. As far as that goes if it is true who really cares! There are alot of top line barrel makers out there that are beter than Lother Walther. Bartlien Brux Hart Krieger Lilja ..just to name a few. If LT (in my opion) when to another barrel amker I think that there rifles would be much more accurate. Lother Walther has not impressed me much lately! |
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http://www.laruetactical.com/costa-edition
ETA: 125 CL versions in stock, 115 remaining... |
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No more LW-50 barrels, they stopped shipping them to LT 9 months ago. This makes sense. Not gonna say I told ya so, but my first post ever on this forum was in regards to this issue. I was told by Sheldon way back in March that "LT may or may not be working on a proprietary barrel with performance egual to or greater than the LW barrels." I also posted about how there was no mention of LW barrels in the catalogue for 2012 awhile back. This explains the new barrel markings on my TAR and it also explains the less than stellar groups that have been coming from rifles sent out this year. I know they're still shooting the guaranteed MOA or sub MOA, but they aint doin it like they used to. And dont think I'm trying to hate on LT cause I'm not. All of this can be seen by going back through the archive and posts from the past few months. I imagine this will make all the OBRs and TARs from last year and earlier that actually got an LW barrel quite collectable. |
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No more LW-50 barrels, they stopped shipping them to LT 9 months ago. This makes sense. Not gonna say I told ya so, but my first post ever on this forum was in regards to this issue. I was told by Sheldon way back in March that "LT may or may not be working on a proprietary barrel with performance egual to or greater than the LW barrels." I also posted about how there was no mention of LW barrels in the catalogue for 2012 awhile back. This explains the new barrel markings on my TAR and it also explains the less than stellar groups that have been coming from rifles sent out this year. I know they're still shooting the guaranteed MOA or sub MOA, but they aint doin it like they used to. And dont think I'm trying to hate on LT cause I'm not. All of this can be seen by going back through the archive and posts from the past few months. I imagine this will make all the OBRs and TARs from last year and earlier that actually got an LW barrel quite collectable. I was wondering what was happening with those groupings. Like you said, it is still below the advertised MOA but the groups do look like they are opening up a little. |
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The groups being shot are not what these rifles are fully capable of. People receiving their rifles have posted the groups from the factory and their much improved groups after taking delivery. Let's not get ahead of ourselves before we know more. A million times this. They're just test targets. Shoot a group yourself when you get the rifle and see what you average. |
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The groups being shot are not what these rifles are fully capable of. People receiving their rifles have posted the groups from the factory and their much improved groups after taking delivery. Let's not get ahead of ourselves before we know more. A million times this. They're just test targets. Shoot a group yourself when you get the rifle and see what you average. I do understand that. Using my TAR as an example, my test target was .849. It shoots between .5 and .6 now that I've run about 300 rounds through it to lay down some good copper in the barrel. I think that is great for a pencil barrel rifle. However, when you look back and see test targets that are .3 or .4 and you think about what those rifles are gonna do when they get broke in, you realize that the groups in general have opened up. And I do understand shooter error and all that, but you can look back at pics where PH or G. Brookes is the shooter and realize these guys are fairly consistant. |
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We also aren't seeing all of the test targets either.[/quote You do know there is a test target thread right? Its a good place to start for comparison. currently I'd say it's too small of a sample size to make any hard conclusions. We need to get more people to post their test targets and self shot groupings. |
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We also aren't seeing all of the test targets either.[/quote You do know there is a test target thread right? Its a good place to start for comparison. currently I'd say it's too small of a sample size to make any hard conclusions. We need to get more people to post their test targets and self shot groupings. I agree 100%. The more the better. But going off of what is posted already, I dont think a group .5 or less has come from any rifle of any caliber this year. There are a couple that are dated from years past though. |
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King Barry has now joined the other clowns in calling for another ban on 'assault rifles' (LINK) so I just want to get my tOBR before that hits the fan. I feel almost naked without a third LT gun.
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The groups being shot are not what these rifles are fully capable of. People receiving their rifles have posted the groups from the factory and their much improved groups after taking delivery. Let's not get ahead of ourselves before we know more. Thats good to hear. I must have missed that. |
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King Barry has now joined the other clowns in calling for another ban on 'assault rifles' (LINK) so I just want to get my tOBR before that hits the fan. I feel almost naked without a third LT gun. Someone who is better versed legally than me will probably correct me, but wouldn't it be the case that IF something like that would come to pass, having placed your order would sort of constitute a "pre-ban" condition? |
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King Barry has now joined the other clowns in calling for another ban on 'assault rifles' (LINK) so I just want to get my tOBR before that hits the fan. I feel almost naked without a third LT gun. Someone who is better versed legally than me will probably correct me, but wouldn't it be the case that IF something like that would come to pass, having placed your order would sort of constitute a "pre-ban" condition? This is just a WAG, but I would say no. You do not have possession of the rifle, even though you have ordered/pre-ordered/purchased. It's not officially yours (according to the BATFE) until you have passed a BG check and the weapon has been transferred from a dealer to you. But, I don't know how that would be handled - Like I said, that's just my thought |
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We also aren't seeing all of the test targets either.[/quote You do know there is a test target thread right? Its a good place to start for comparison. currently I'd say it's too small of a sample size to make any hard conclusions. We need to get more people to post their test targets and self shot groupings. I agree 100%. The more the better. But going off of what is posted already, I dont think a group .5 or less has come from any rifle of any caliber this year. There are a couple that are dated from years past though. 18" OBR 5.56, delivered this month, .410 5 shot group by PH. |
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King Barry has now joined the other clowns in calling for another ban on 'assault rifles' (LINK) so I just want to get my tOBR before that hits the fan. I feel almost naked without a third LT gun. Someone who is better versed legally than me will probably correct me, but wouldn't it be the case that IF something like that would come to pass, having placed your order would sort of constitute a "pre-ban" condition? This is just a WAG, but I would say no. You do not have possession of the rifle, even though you have ordered/pre-ordered/purchased. It's not officially yours (according to the BATFE) until you have passed a BG check and the weapon has been transferred from a dealer to you. But, I don't know how that would be handled - Like I said, that's just my thought i believe you are correct! |
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Is there any mark on the LW barrels visible so I can tell if my OBR has the part that was advertised? I'm not dissatisfied with the gun at all, but part of the reason I purchased it was the Barrel was a LW. I've shot under .5" with it, so I know it shoots. Just wonder if I can tell if I have a LW or something else.
I find it disappointing that they have been quiet about this. I have been happy with every LaRue item I have purchased, but would like full disclosure on something as critical as the barrel on my OBR. |
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Is there any mark on the LW barrels visible so I can tell if my OBR has the part that was advertised? I'm not dissatisfied with the gun at all, but part of the reason I purchased it was the Barrel was a LW. I've shot under .5" with it, so I know it shoots. Just wonder if I can tell if I have a LW or something else. I find it disappointing that they have been quiet about this. I have been happy with every LaRue item I have purchased, but would like full disclosure on something as critical as the barrel on my OBR. As far as I know all 5.56 barrels in the past have been stamped with an 8p marking. I do not know about 7.62 barrels. My Predatar does not have the 8p stamp. It has an LT patent pending stamp that I have posted pics of in another thread. I am sure someone on here will know more about this than me. I dont think any barrels were stamped LW specifically. |
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LT has always had acurate rifles. I dont thing they are gonna leave us hanging out in the wind with bad stuff! I agree. But a little disclosure would have been nice. Sheldon was the only person at LT to ever even acknowledge that this might be happening, and that was in March. The amount of times I called and reasked this question to varify is quite possibly ridiculous. And every time it was denied. I aint gonna cancel my TOBR but I sure feel a little different about it. I dont feel as though it has an OBR barrel in it. Hell, theres OBRs that dont have an OBR barrel in them now. |
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King Barry has now joined the other clowns in calling for another ban on 'assault rifles' (LINK) so I just want to get my tOBR before that hits the fan. I feel almost naked without a third LT gun. Someone who is better versed legally than me will probably correct me, but wouldn't it be the case that IF something like that would come to pass, having placed your order would sort of constitute a "pre-ban" condition? This is just a WAG, but I would say no. You do not have possession of the rifle, even though you have ordered/pre-ordered/purchased. It's not officially yours (according to the BATFE) until you have passed a BG check and the weapon has been transferred from a dealer to you. But, I don't know how that would be handled - Like I said, that's just my thought I agree, the order doesn't mean anything, possession does... of course they could just push out the lowers, which are the firearm, the follow up later with the upper when it is ready... that said, I don't think you will see any ban materialize in Congress any time soon. |
| especially right now before an election. I think these anit "Assault Weapon" politicians are only stating this opinion right now to play on the first reaction fears of many anti-gun Americans right now. In order to appease these people, the politicians have to react some way in an Anti-Gun manner. I think this shall pass, especially with the Olympics here, it's sad to say but the media has a short attention span. The victims of Colorado and the anti-"Assault Weapon" retiric will take a bake seat. Like I said, for the victims and their families in Colorado it's sad that their situation will soon be on the back page like a lot of our friends still fighting over seas. |
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I dunno... I don't trust Obummer. You all might be right about the rest of the politicians not doing anything right before the election, but I heard a clip from Obummer talking to the "Urban League" I think it was, and he said, We're working on things to get some gun restrictions in places as it seems we can't do it though the House or Senate... So I think he is really trying to cook somehting up either with exec order or with this UN-treaty pr something else shady... See I think he can get away with this shit as he is arrogant and thinks he can do anything he wants, and if/when he does something like this that all the sheeple say ""Will Never Happen" no one will call him on the carpet for it and he'll get away with it... The media is his whore and anyone conservative or independent is sared the media will label them rascist if they step outta line... Not sure what we can do, but its coming... |
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I dunno... I don't trust Obummer. You all might be right about the rest of the politicians not doing anything right before the election, but I heard a clip from Obummer talking to the "Urban League" I think it was, and he said, We're working on things to get some gun restrictions in places as it seems we can't do it though the House or Senate... So I think he is really trying to cook somehting up either with exec order or with this UN-treaty pr something else shady... See I think he can get away with this shit as he is arrogant and thinks he can do anything he wants, and if/when he does something like this that all the sheeple say ""Will Never Happen" no one will call him on the carpet for it and he'll get away with it... The media is his whore and anyone conservative or independent is sared the media will label them rascist if they step outta line... Not sure what we can do, but its coming... Not saying 0 won't try something, but some sort of administrative move, like an EO would be pounced on... it would be a tough row to hoe implementing a AWB type action without a law to support it. Even if 0 signs the ATT, it will never get 2/3rds in the Senate, at least not for a few election cycles and massive shifts in opinions |
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King Barry has now joined the other clowns in calling for another ban on 'assault rifles' (LINK) so I just want to get my tOBR before that hits the fan. I feel almost naked without a third LT gun. Someone who is better versed legally than me will probably correct me, but wouldn't it be the case that IF something like that would come to pass, having placed your order would sort of constitute a "pre-ban" condition? This is just a WAG, but I would say no. You do not have possession of the rifle, even though you have ordered/pre-ordered/purchased. It's not officially yours (according to the BATFE) until you have passed a BG check and the weapon has been transferred from a dealer to you. But, I don't know how that would be handled - Like I said, that's just my thought Hard to speculate, but it would be in LT's best interest to get moving and get them out... I think I'm going to order a ton of 30rd mags this week just to be safe in case it does happen or people decide to make a run on them later... |
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King Barry has now joined the other clowns in calling for another ban on 'assault rifles' (LINK) so I just want to get my tOBR before that hits the fan. I feel almost naked without a third LT gun. Someone who is better versed legally than me will probably correct me, but wouldn't it be the case that IF something like that would come to pass, having placed your order would sort of constitute a "pre-ban" condition? This is just a WAG, but I would say no. You do not have possession of the rifle, even though you have ordered/pre-ordered/purchased. It's not officially yours (according to the BATFE) until you have passed a BG check and the weapon has been transferred from a dealer to you. But, I don't know how that would be handled - Like I said, that's just my thought Hard to speculate, but it would be in LT's best interest to get moving and get them out... I think I'm going to order a ton of 30rd mags this week just to be safe in case it does happen or people decide to make a run on them later... Schumer is trying to attach a magazine ban to the cyber security bill... 
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