Posted: 5/24/2010 11:37:46 AM EDT
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I'm looking for some recommendations on scopes for the OBR. I would like an all-around scope, not specifically for long distance shooting and something that is not too big to haul through the woods. I have been considering:
NXS 2.5-10x32 (Mil Dot, Mil Turrets) +Compact Size -Small Objective -Only 10x Magnification NXS 3.5-15x50 F1 or SFP (MLR, Mil Turrets) +Can get FFP +15x Magnification -Significantly larger/heavier than 2.5-10 I would like to stay at around $2K or less. Any recommendation on brands, magnification, reticules or FFP/SFP that work good for the OBR? Thanks! |
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I haven't ordered it yet but will soon. I've decided on the 20" version with PRS but that could change back to the 18".
As for scopes, I wanted to see what people with OBRs are running and if they had a preference on the size difference or magnification difference between the two NF scopes. I'm leaning towards the 3.5-15 but I love the compact size of the 2.5-10. Is FFP the way to go compared to SFP? I read the pros and cons of reticule changing size with FFP to match the magnification at any level but I wanted to make sure it is worth the $700 extra. Thanks everyone for your help in my research! This board is awesome for information. |
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Okay, I'll chime in again. Regarding 10x or 15x I would recommend at least 15x. I have run my 18" OBR out to 600 yards with a 2.5-10x42 and it comes nowhere close to meeting he capabilities of the OBR (at least for these old eyes). It was okay out the 600 yard target but I would have been at a distinct disadvantage had I been shooting 1000 yards. As for the FFP vs SFP: I am still struggling with that myself. After running a FFP on my OBR and considering my real-world uses ... I'm about 55/45 in favor of the SFP at this point. |
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RidgeDog, so do you think 10x is about maxed out at 600? I've never shot through a 10x or 15x scope so I'm just curious what magnification is good at what distance. I know most people, especially on Sniper's Hide, seem to think the more magnification the better. I just don't want a baseball bat scope on top of the OBR.
As for FFP, is the big advantage just ranging at any mag level? Is there any other reason why you would want a FFP? I like how the SFP is easier to use at low level magnification levels because it is not so small. Plus you would probably range at the highest mag level for SFP scope anyway. |
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Quoted: RidgeDog, so do you think 10x is about maxed out at 600? Probably not. If my execution and the conditions were near perfect, I could shoot the 10x at 1000 yards. HOWEVER the advantages of more mag would be obvious. I've never shot through a 10x or 15x scope so I'm just curious what magnification is good at what distance. I know most people, especially on Sniper's Hide, seem to think the more magnification the better. I'd be inclined to go with that mindset. Keep in mind though that the higher magnification can be more problematic with mirage and reduced FOV at full mag. I just don't want a baseball bat scope on top of the OBR. Roger that. In my case I have a really nice 5.56 I can use for shorter range, smaller game + run and gun training. That reduces the requirement for my OBR to satisfy all situations. BUT if I only had the OBR I would probably get a 22x AND a 4x on LaRue mounts. That way I have a great gun for either long-rang or short-range. That being said, I'm, leaning to 15x so I maintain quick acquisition of moving game which I maintain a 300 yard (maybe 400) limit to insure a humane kill (I hate spending the day tracking wounded animals) As for FFP, is the big advantage just ranging at any mag level? Yes Is there any other reason why you would want a FFP? Ranging multiple moving targets. However, under static conditions a LRF will be more accurate I like how the SFP is easier to use at low level magnification levels because it is not so small. Plus you would probably range at the highest mag level for SFP scope anyway. True. Plus with SFP you would be REQUIRED to use the ranging reticle at maximum setting. Keep in mind I am CNRG (.civ, nobody, regular guy) with more time applied to research than time behind a magnified optic. At 58 years of age and hunting all my life does NOT make me an expert on optics. Before securing the OBR, I had sent probably less than 200 rounds down range from an optic (iron sight guy my whole life). I have shot only about 300 rounds from the OBR. So what I'm saying here is all my comments most definitely deserve the note of: YMMV  |
| Thanks for the pictures and answers. I think I'm going to go with the 3.5-15x50 F1 MLR. I was looking for a scope that could do decent longer range shooting as well as quicker run and gun work. I don't know if the NXS 2.5-10 can do both of those well, so I'm going with the F1 for longer work and maybe look at something in the future such as an Aimpoint or EoTech. |
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I've talked/emailed quite a bit with Brian at NF and am convinced you have made a choice that will serve you well. If they had the NP-R1 reticle available on that scope I probably would have ordered it months ago. I may just go with the SFP version now... Good Luck and Have Fun!!
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RidgeDog, so do you think 10x is about maxed out at 600? I've never shot through a 10x or 15x scope so I'm just curious what magnification is good at what distance. I know most people, especially on Sniper's Hide, seem to think the more magnification the better. I just don't want a baseball bat scope on top of the OBR. As for FFP, is the big advantage just ranging at any mag level? Is there any other reason why you would want a FFP? I like how the SFP is easier to use at low level magnification levels because it is not so small. Plus you would probably range at the highest mag level for SFP scope anyway. FFP is also very useful for holdovers (if you want to take a quick shot and don't have time to dial your DOPE) and leads for moving targets. However, an FFP reticle is too small to be useful below about 6x (since the reticle grows and shrinks with magnification). If you're looking for a single do-it-all scope, one intriguing option for use out to 800 yards or so is the new Horus Blackbird 1.5-8x24. The reticle is FFP so you get an exaggerated post/line effect at 1.5x for quick shots, then at 8x you get the awesome Horus H58 reticle aiming points for holds, windage, and movers. It's also illuminated for low light work. The price is under $1k, so it's fairly reasonable in that regard. The scope is designed for hunting and self-defense so it's not go-to-war rugged, but for most civilian shooters that is not a big deal. |
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Thanks for bringing up the Horus Blackbird 1.5-8x24. Maybe I should keep looking for a better all around scope instead of just long range. Do you think that the NXS 2.5-10 would be a good all around scope? Any other suggestions? Leupold is finally bringing their highly anticipated CQBSS to the market with a targeted release date of Aug. 1st. The new CQBSS is a front focal plane 1.1 x 8 power optic built on a 34mm tube using a Horus 27 illuminated dot reticle. VTAC posted a good video of the new scope and it's features. Expect it to be priced in the Schmidt Bender PMII range. |
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Thanks for bringing up the Horus Blackbird 1.5-8x24. Maybe I should keep looking for a better all around scope instead of just long range. Do you think that the NXS 2.5-10 would be a good all around scope? Any other suggestions? Leupold is finally bringing their highly anticipated CQBSS to the market with a targeted release date of Aug. 1st. The new CQBSS is a front focal plane 1.1 x 8 power optic built on a 34mm tube using a Horus 27 illuminated dot reticle. VTAC posted a good video of the new scope and it's features. Expect it to be priced in the Schmidt Bender PMII range. too bad it will be crazy $$$$$$ |
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i finally pulled the trigger... well on optics that is(still haven't fired my OBR)... ran accross a deal on a Leupold Mark IV 4.5-14 SF MIldot that was too good to pass up, a couple hundred bucks cheaper and about a full pound lighter than the trijicon i was thinking about...
K. |