[ARCHIVED THREAD] - KSAP 7.62 (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 1/10/2012 11:28:10 AM EDT
| How have the reviews been on this ammo? Now that I sat around too long and never bought enough M67, I'm looking for something new. |
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its sold to us as non-corrosive, i had a buddy test it as non-corr, but i read that post also, and sent it over to the importer yesterday Will be interesting to hear what the importer says about it. I'm looking around to buy a spare 1K of 7.62x39 so I was following this with interest (and couldn't find the posts about rust in the Ammo section), but it looks like AIM just sold out of it anyway... |
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its sold to us as non-corrosive, i had a buddy test it as non-corr, but i read that post also, and sent it over to the importer yesterday Will be interesting to hear what the importer says about it. I'm looking around to buy a spare 1K of 7.62x39 so I was following this with interest (and couldn't find the posts about rust in the Ammo section), but it looks like AIM just sold out of it anyway... It's in the ammunition subsection in the AK section. As of this posting it's the first active non tacked thread (I'm on an iPad so I can't link it). The OP states that after shooting this ammo he had MAJOR rust issues. He updated his thread to say he cleaned the rifle and it came back. |
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its sold to us as non-corrosive, i had a buddy test it as non-corr, but i read that post also, and sent it over to the importer yesterday Will be interesting to hear what the importer says about it. I'm looking around to buy a spare 1K of 7.62x39 so I was following this with interest (and couldn't find the posts about rust in the Ammo section), but it looks like AIM just sold out of it anyway... AK47 section -> Ammunition -> Klimovsk Ammo Report |
| the Russians claim they haven't had a corrosive primer in the factory since 1998, so they importer was going to pop some primers on different lot #s and report back, i have a buddy who is reporting no problem out of his, but he needs to find the packaging to give me lot #s |
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How is ammo that is corrosive a paper weight? Honestly.
Buy a .99 Cent spray bottle, fill it with water, and after you're done shooting, spray down your weapon. I swear, people involved with guns and shooting are ninnies. 
Also, if it's a paper weight, l will PayPal you $50+19 for freight and I'll take it off your hands. |
I just picked up 1k as well, I'll piss on my ak afterwards.
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How is ammo that is corrosive a paper weight? Honestly. Buy a .99 Cent spray bottle, fill it with water, and after you're done shooting, spray down your weapon. I swear, people involved with guns and shooting are ninnies.
Also, if it's a paper weight, l will PayPal you $50+19 for freight and I'll take it off your hands. Well i wont be shooting it now since its possibly corrosive.I have a stash of yugo that is corrosive and some chinese steel core that is corrosive,but that is for long term zombie use.I buy non corrosive to practice,and blast with,because clean up is quicker and less detailed.I bought this as non corrosive ammo for target use only.It will now be stashed with the other corrosive ammo now for that reason. If the manufacturer lists it as non corrosive then it better be non corrosive,THIS IS NOT AIM's fault in any way,the plant that made it goofed up somewhere. |
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Not as bad as i was thinking it would be.Now if it was summer time,it would be much worse due to humidity.Thanks for posting the pics.
Im going to test some of Lot #25 this weekend.I plan on shooting then cleaning everything but the gas tube and see how rusted it gets over a time period. |
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I have the P18 lot ammo, and sadly am seeing signs that this is corrosive, purchased before xmas this year not a happy camper. what is the simplest way to clean the rifle. Will normal oil/solvent and a rag work, or does it have to take a bath>? Water. That's all you need. 
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Look here: Cleaning up ruste AFTER Corrosion has started
I cleaned a couple times, rust was still coming back. I'm awaiting a can of Corrosion-Block and I'll use it. Is kinda frustrating. I'm used to corrosive ammo, don't mind cleaning corrosive. I don't mind this KSAP, I can shoot & clean now......just wish I'd known before I got the big-red monster started. |
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I have the P18 lot ammo, and sadly am seeing signs that this is corrosive, purchased before xmas this year not a happy camper. what is the simplest way to clean the rifle. Will normal oil/solvent and a rag work, or does it have to take a bath>? Water. That's all you need.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcFKCTfKENcThat's okay for before rust has started (my method in fact). Not so successful if it's sat for a few days (because you thoguht it was NC) and let rust actually start working. |
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I shot 120 rounds of this today at the range. My ammo is from Lot P18 and I purchased it from AIM in December. After the range I cleaned the gun thoroughly just in case. I will check the rifle tomorrow for any signs of corrosion. There's a guy in the AIM thread that shot lot p18 and he has pics up of some rust spots. Not as bad as others are reporting but I've never had any rust from non corrosive ammo. I posted this in the AK-47 Ammunition thread. Since I bought this ammo from AIM I'll post it here too. Bad news... There was some corrosion on the head of my piston. The rust looks worse in the pic than it does in person. It cleaned up just fine without any pitting. I checked the barrel and the gas tube and they were ok. I cleaned everything again just to be sure. Apparently I need to focus more on the piston while cleaning. I bought 2 thousand rounds of this stuff from AIM so I am not too happy about it being corrosive. I am going to shoot all of it before the summer hits because it gets humid as hell here. Sad face 
I shot tons of Yugo through it without any signs of corrosion. I always cleaned it thoroughly too. http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x480/TheChairForce/DSC_0083.jpg |
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it is something a purchaser should know, even if not a " big deal" ... why pay noncorrosive prices for mildly - corrosive ammo? I am sure the guys at AIM didnt know that this ammo was possibly corrosive, but it is great to see them looking into it. And is a credit that OP took the time to bring this information to the public, who might be used to shooing noncorrosive ammo and not dropping their AK in a kiddie pool after shooting. .
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it is something a purchaser should know, even if not a " big deal" ... why pay noncorrosive prices for mildly - corrosive ammo? I am sure the guys at AIM didnt know that this ammo was possibly corrosive, but it is great to see them looking into it. And is a credit that OP took the time to bring this information to the public, who might be used to shooing noncorrosive ammo and not dropping their AK in a kiddie pool after shooting. . No such thing as mildly corrosive. It either is or it isn't |
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Tag for update. even if it is, not a big deal. It's not a big deal if the person shooting it knows it's corrosive and takes the appropriate action by cleaning it right away. It is a big deal if somebody uses it in their firearm and doesn't clean it right away because it's labeled as "non corrosive". ETA: I'm not blaming this on AIM, they are a top notch company. Just saying this information is important for people to know about ASAP before more rifles get unkowingly damaged. |
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Tag for update. even if it is, not a big deal. It's not a big deal if the person shooting it knows it's corrosive and takes the appropriate action by cleaning it right away. It is a big deal if somebody uses it in their firearm and doesn't clean it right away because it's labeled as "non corrosive". ETA: I'm not blaming this on AIM, they are a top notch company. Just saying this information is important for people to know about ASAP before more rifles get unkowingly damaged. Sorry, I should have elaborated, I was typing on my phone. That is what I meant, I meant that, even if it does turn out to be corrosive, it's not a big deal to me that it is, in that I'll still shoot it, not that it doesn't make a difference at all what it is. |
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the importer had two tests come out non-corrosive, and waiting on the third. The factory still claims non corrosive also.
I sent them a copy of this thread that at least 3 guys have seen some rust and there is something going on. so for now i still don't know anymore than you guys |
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Quoted: No doubt.How is ammo that is corrosive a paper weight? Honestly. Buy a .99 Cent spray bottle, fill it with water, and after you're done shooting, spray down your weapon. I swear, people involved with guns and shooting are ninnies. Also, if it's a paper weight, l will PayPal you $50+19 for freight and I'll take it off your hands. |
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the importer had two tests come out non-corrosive, and waiting on the third. The factory still claims non corrosive also. I sent them a copy of this thread that at least 3 guys have seen some rust and there is something going on. so for now i still don't know anymore than you guys Probably improper maintenance and storing eh Ah well. I appreciate AIM's work on checking this out.
Does make me wonder what the deal was though. Because something was up. |
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Just thought I'd give an update for the ones unhappy with corrosive ammo:
Wolf ammunition is willing to replace those with Klimovsk ammunition, or refund it (refund only if you have the invoice/receipt of purchase with the $$ paid). I sent them an email asking what the replacement ammunition would be. I've got 2,500 rounds, and if they'll replace it with NC-ammo that's not Klimovsk, I'll swap ammo, if it would be newer Klimovsk, I'll be getting a refund. I'll let y'all know how the experiance turns out. |
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Just thought I'd give an update for the ones unhappy with corrosive ammo: Wolf ammunition is willing to replace those with Klimovsk ammunition, or refund it (refund only if you have the invoice/receipt of purchase with the $$ paid). I sent them an email asking what the replacement ammunition would be. I've got 2,500 rounds, and if they'll replace it with NC-ammo that's not Klimovsk, I'll swap ammo, if it would be newer Klimovsk, I'll be getting a refund. I'll let y'all know how the experiance turns out. Is wolf related to klimovsk or are they just stepping up to the plate? |
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shoot a email to this address [email protected] they will get you taken care of |
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I sent them an email asking what the replacement ammunition would be. I've got 2,500 rounds, and if they'll replace it with NC-ammo that's not Klimovsk, I'll swap ammo, if it would be newer Klimovsk, I'll be getting a refund. I'll let y'all know how the experiance turns out. Email I got back said it would be WPA. Quoted:
So has there been a definitive answer on whether is this corrosive or not? Wolf was VERY quick to say just give us your info we'll send a tag to pick it up and replace or refund. I think that means either 1) it is or 2) they don't want to get burned by the perception so they are just not taking any chances. Either way, it sucks from a business stand point for them too as the importer getting eaten up on the shipping costs but it goes a long way on the CS front. |