Posted: 9/26/2013 5:39:12 PM EDT
| Any way to tone down the brightness off the laser on the ITAL's? The bloom is doing more harm than good at close range(I hunt under 100 yards) and is covering the whole hog instead where I want to shoot. Lost more than I have found due to shot placement thanks to the bloom. |
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Use a neutral density filter on it:
http://tnvc.com/shop/laser-neutral-density-filter/ 
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I have seen that but it says not compatible with ITAL. perhaps I could find a way to make it work. If not I'll have an ITAL for sale soon. |
I'll have to get mine out tonight and take a look. It's been a couple of months since I used it, but I don't remember the bloom being that bad....but you know how memory goes. 
There was a thread a while back about using 30mm 720nm camera filters on the PVS 14 to reduce bloom in general. |
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I'll have to get mine out tonight and take a look. It's been a couple of months since I used it, but I don't remember the bloom being that bad....but you know how memory goes.
There was a thread a while back about using 30mm 720nm camera filters on the PVS 14 to reduce bloom in general. Would that effect the amount of light taken in by the 14 at all? |
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Here's one of the old threads on the filter
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_18/386504__ARCHIVED_THREAD____720nm_IR_Filter_PVS_14_Night_Enforcer__Pics_.html&page=1 |
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Here's one of the old threads on the filter http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_18/386504__ARCHIVED_THREAD____720nm_IR_Filter_PVS_14_Night_Enforcer__Pics_.html&page=1 POS or a good buy? |
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Anymore input? Lots of places stock different size neutral density filters. I will give you one link and you can look around for similar places. Optical filters are all over the web. I don't know what size would fit to the front of your particular application. I would need to measure the front output. 12mm or so?? I am not sure so you will have to measure. Believe they come 1mm to 3mm thick. Here is one link with some filters for your application. I am just trying to help you and not step on any toes in a industry page. Neutral density filters are easy to find but you may need to do some work to find exactly what will fit your application. I don't use your type of laser so I wish I could help more. http://www.stockoptics.com/filters/circular-neutral-density-filters.html |
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This is the main reason that an NV compatible optic like an EoTech is preferred as the primary aiming device in my former Unit. Lasers are useful for illuminating through obscurement or into structures. Or for target indication. Quoted:
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Anymore input? This is the main reason that an NV compatible optic like an EoTech is preferred as the primary aiming device in my former Unit. Lasers are useful for illuminating through obscurement or into structures. Or for target indication. What is the range at which you used this method? I tried this last night sitting at my feeder and had no luck. I could easily see the feeder without the eotech but once i brought the gun up, i couldnt see it. Range was 80 yards. |
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What is the range at which you used this method? I tried this last night sitting at my feeder and had no luck. I could easily see the feeder without the eotech but once i brought the gun up, i couldnt see it. Range was 80 yards. Quoted:
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Anymore input? This is the main reason that an NV compatible optic like an EoTech is preferred as the primary aiming device in my former Unit. Lasers are useful for illuminating through obscurement or into structures. Or for target indication. What is the range at which you used this method? I tried this last night sitting at my feeder and had no luck. I could easily see the feeder without the eotech but once i brought the gun up, i couldnt see it. Range was 80 yards. Any range I can see the target. 80yd should be very easy. Could you not see the target or the reticle when you brought the weapon up? |
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Any range I can see the target. 80yd should be very easy. Could you not see the target or the reticle when you brought the weapon up? Quoted:
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Anymore input? This is the main reason that an NV compatible optic like an EoTech is preferred as the primary aiming device in my former Unit. Lasers are useful for illuminating through obscurement or into structures. Or for target indication. What is the range at which you used this method? I tried this last night sitting at my feeder and had no luck. I could easily see the feeder without the eotech but once i brought the gun up, i couldnt see it. Range was 80 yards. Any range I can see the target. 80yd should be very easy. Could you not see the target or the reticle when you brought the weapon up? Target. I had no external illumination other than the ambient light from dense overcast. |
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Anymore input? This is the main reason that an NV compatible optic like an EoTech is preferred as the primary aiming device in my former Unit. Lasers are useful for illuminating through obscurement or into structures. Or for target indication. What is the range at which you used this method? I tried this last night sitting at my feeder and had no luck. I could easily see the feeder without the eotech but once i brought the gun up, i couldnt see it. Range was 80 yards. Any range I can see the target. 80yd should be very easy. Could you not see the target or the reticle when you brought the weapon up? Target. I had no external illumination other than the ambient light from dense overcast. Are you using an eotech with an NV button and did you have it dimmed down? |
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512 with it turned all the way down. Per our previous conversations about this set up and being good to go. Got it. 512 turned all the way down will work well for shorter ranges, usually around 50m and in. For instance, for CQB I'll use the non-NV setting, dimmed down just enough so I can see it under white light for lit/non-lit room transitions. At longer ranges the brighter reticle's bloom will begin to exceed the size of the target. The distance at which this will happen will vary based on whether your tubes are autogated, size of the target, illum conditions, etc. So, to be clear- for close/short ranges a non-NV red dot is good to go. For longer ranges, the brightness will get in the way a bit. Hope that helps. If you're in Texas, we can go swing by a range and I can show you. |
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Got it. 512 turned all the way down will work well for shorter ranges, usually around 50m and in. For instance, for CQB I'll use the non-NV setting, dimmed down just enough so I can see it under white light for lit/non-lit room transitions. At longer ranges the brighter reticle's bloom will begin to exceed the size of the target. The distance at which this will happen will vary based on whether your tubes are autogated, size of the target, illum conditions, etc. So, to be clear- for close/short ranges a non-NV red dot is good to go. For longer ranges, the brightness will get in the way a bit. Hope that helps. If you're in Texas, we can go swing by a range and I can show you. Quoted:
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512 with it turned all the way down. Per our previous conversations about this set up and being good to go. Got it. 512 turned all the way down will work well for shorter ranges, usually around 50m and in. For instance, for CQB I'll use the non-NV setting, dimmed down just enough so I can see it under white light for lit/non-lit room transitions. At longer ranges the brighter reticle's bloom will begin to exceed the size of the target. The distance at which this will happen will vary based on whether your tubes are autogated, size of the target, illum conditions, etc. So, to be clear- for close/short ranges a non-NV red dot is good to go. For longer ranges, the brightness will get in the way a bit. Hope that helps. If you're in Texas, we can go swing by a range and I can show you. I see what your saying. I shot a cyote at 40 yards out the back door with this set up but also had a security light for extra ambient light and it worked good. But out in the pasture with nothing but overcast, it was to bright. I am in Texas. About 2.5 hours east of Dallas. |
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I see what your saying. I shot a cyote at 40 yards out the back door with this set up but also had a security light for extra ambient light and it worked good. But out in the pasture with nothing but overcast, it was to bright. I am in Texas. About 2.5 hours east of Dallas. Quoted:
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512 with it turned all the way down. Per our previous conversations about this set up and being good to go. Got it. 512 turned all the way down will work well for shorter ranges, usually around 50m and in. For instance, for CQB I'll use the non-NV setting, dimmed down just enough so I can see it under white light for lit/non-lit room transitions. At longer ranges the brighter reticle's bloom will begin to exceed the size of the target. The distance at which this will happen will vary based on whether your tubes are autogated, size of the target, illum conditions, etc. So, to be clear- for close/short ranges a non-NV red dot is good to go. For longer ranges, the brightness will get in the way a bit. Hope that helps. If you're in Texas, we can go swing by a range and I can show you. I see what your saying. I shot a cyote at 40 yards out the back door with this set up but also had a security light for extra ambient light and it worked good. But out in the pasture with nothing but overcast, it was to bright. I am in Texas. About 2.5 hours east of Dallas. I'm in Addison at the moment. I can shoot at night at TDSA in Ferris. More than happy to swing by if you've got something closer |
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512 with it turned all the way down. Per our previous conversations about this set up and being good to go. Got it. 512 turned all the way down will work well for shorter ranges, usually around 50m and in. For instance, for CQB I'll use the non-NV setting, dimmed down just enough so I can see it under white light for lit/non-lit room transitions. At longer ranges the brighter reticle's bloom will begin to exceed the size of the target. The distance at which this will happen will vary based on whether your tubes are autogated, size of the target, illum conditions, etc. So, to be clear- for close/short ranges a non-NV red dot is good to go. For longer ranges, the brightness will get in the way a bit. Hope that helps. If you're in Texas, we can go swing by a range and I can show you. I see what your saying. I shot a cyote at 40 yards out the back door with this set up but also had a security light for extra ambient light and it worked good. But out in the pasture with nothing but overcast, it was to bright. I am in Texas. About 2.5 hours east of Dallas. I'm in Addison at the moment. I can shoot at night at TDSA in Ferris. More than happy to swing by if you've got something closer Will do. Right now i am working from sun up to sun down but i expect a slow down soon. Thanks for your help! |
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512 with it turned all the way down. Per our previous conversations about this set up and being good to go. Got it. 512 turned all the way down will work well for shorter ranges, usually around 50m and in. For instance, for CQB I'll use the non-NV setting, dimmed down just enough so I can see it under white light for lit/non-lit room transitions. At longer ranges the brighter reticle's bloom will begin to exceed the size of the target. The distance at which this will happen will vary based on whether your tubes are autogated, size of the target, illum conditions, etc. So, to be clear- for close/short ranges a non-NV red dot is good to go. For longer ranges, the brightness will get in the way a bit. Hope that helps. If you're in Texas, we can go swing by a range and I can show you. I see what your saying. I shot a cyote at 40 yards out the back door with this set up but also had a security light for extra ambient light and it worked good. But out in the pasture with nothing but overcast, it was to bright. I am in Texas. About 2.5 hours east of Dallas. I'm in Addison at the moment. I can shoot at night at TDSA in Ferris. More than happy to swing by if you've got something closer Will do. Right now i am working from sun up to sun down but i expect a slow down soon. Thanks for your help! Not a problem, offer will stand- just hit me up if you get free |