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12/12/2014 2:37:18 PM EDT
This forum is known for its love of BCM.  I've noticed a lot of talk about them, maybe more than any other company, they're the crowd favourite.  I don't think I have read anything negative.   I am new and I was wondering why they are the best.   They are not the most expensive.  Not really like an elitist brand.  So what's the deal?  Do they just make great rifles and accesories for fair prices?
12/11/2014 11:17:56 PM EDT
[#1]
they make (or more accurately.... source) good stuff. But so does a hundred other "makers"
12/11/2014 11:23:51 PM EDT
[#2]
They are awesome.
12/11/2014 11:26:04 PM EDT
[#3]
They make an incredibly high quality product at a price point most people can afford. They're also great people and their QC is some of the best in the industry.
12/11/2014 11:26:25 PM EDT
[#4]
Yup. Great customer service, great products, lots of stuff for the money,  usually will have a promotion (free bcg, 1$ charging handle, etc), they've proven their product can run like hell (filthy 14, shot 31,165 rounds)
12/11/2014 11:30:06 PM EDT
[#5]
Yep.  They're awesome.  Great customer service, great QC, great products.

Love my BCMs.  They're rock solid and function flawlessly.

Somebody hear an echo?
12/11/2014 11:34:49 PM EDT
[#6]
I looked into buying one but more expensive than a Colt or Spikes and could not justify the price difference. Other companies offer the same quality and customer service at a lower price.
12/11/2014 11:37:16 PM EDT
[#7]
They are an innovative company with great accessories, customer service, reputation, oh and their rifles are not bad either. Seriously though, the price to quality ratio is amazing,  who needs a 2300 dollar noveske or lwrc? Nobody,  you are just paying for the name. Not that they don't make great weapons, just overpriced. Bcm's are for the working class Americans who demand the best quality at a great price!
12/11/2014 11:49:57 PM EDT
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That's what I was thinking. They are kick ass equipment at great prices for what you get.  From what I'm learning Daniel Defense would be next in line, but not quite as good cost to value but still not like lwrc, noveske or hk maybe?  I went into a store in California and it had 70% lwrc and hk for $2000 and up. No Bravo and that store.
12/11/2014 11:50:42 PM EDT
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They are an innovative company with great accessories, customer service, reputation, oh and their rifles are not bad either. Seriously though, the price to quality ratio is amazing,  who needs a 2300 dollar noveske or lwrc? Nobody,  you are just paying for the name. Not that they don't make great weapons, just overpriced. Bcm's are for the working class Americans who demand the best quality at a great price!
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I'm still going to build my Noveske.  



 
12/11/2014 11:52:54 PM EDT
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Since i can pretty much get what Daniel defense offers from bcm for cheaper (minus the milspec+ finish, but idgaf about that) why not just get bcm?


I don't care about lwrc, but that's just me
12/11/2014 11:55:07 PM EDT
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They are an innovative company with great accessories, customer service, reputation, oh and their rifles are not bad either. Seriously though, the price to quality ratio is amazing,  who needs a 2300 dollar noveske or lwrc? Nobody,  you are just paying for the name. Not that they don't make great weapons, just overpriced. Bcm's are for the working class Americans who demand the best quality at a great price!
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I'm still going to build my Noveske.  
 
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I have a complete afghan, I have nothing but love for noveske. Shoot, I have a 2100 dollar arsenal democracy ar15. I'm not biased at all, I just know not everyone can afford stuff like that, bcm is my ''go to'' brand, along with the almighty DANIEL DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!
12/12/2014 12:15:12 AM EDT
[#12]
Best source for lightweight middies.
Cool posters for SWAG.
12/12/2014 12:31:27 AM EDT
[#13]
They are good rifles no doubt. If you stick around here long enough you will find that many things are the 'flavor of the week' for a while...

There are many good manufacturers right now, and now is a great time to buy.
12/12/2014 12:33:16 AM EDT
[#14]
BCM is the bees knees. Hang around here and you'll see. If you're looking to get a rifle, I recommend BCM, Daniel Defense, Colt, FN, Noveske, or KAC.

Then for accessories completely smother it in Tapco, UTG, BSA, and NC Star

COMPLETELY KIDDING ABOUT THE ACCESSORIES- stay away from the accessory companies I listed. But as for the rifle companies on the top, one of those is what you want for guaranteed quality. There are some others as well.
12/12/2014 12:52:50 AM EDT
[#15]
I'm in on BCM
12/12/2014 12:52:52 AM EDT
[#16]
They have quality stuff and stand behind what they sell. This company also truly supports the people who use their products and I have seen this first hand.  I bet my life on their products...and yes, I value my life.
12/12/2014 1:22:57 AM EDT
[#17]
I don't have any of their rifles but all the BCM parts I've used worked and fit perfectly.
12/12/2014 2:14:14 AM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=613126

I'm not sure whatever happened regarding this but I guess I have never been on the bcm band wagon after I read it while back.  I know people who run there parts and love them with no issues.  I have no personal experience with bcm parts/rifles.
12/12/2014 2:33:22 AM EDT
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BCM is the bees knees. Hang around here and you'll see. If you're looking to get a rifle, I recommend BCM, Daniel Defense, Colt, FN, Noveske, or KAC.

Then for accessories completely smother it in Tapco, UTG, BSA, and NC Star

COMPLETELY KIDDING ABOUT THE ACCESSORIES- stay away from the accessory companies I listed. But as for the rifle companies on the top, one of those is what you want for guaranteed quality. There are some others as well.
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I'd agree with the recommendations, but throw Spike's Tactical in there. They make an awesomely priced product that's directly comparable to some of the others you've mentioned.
12/12/2014 2:35:52 AM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=613126

I'm not sure whatever happened regarding this but I guess I have never been on the bcm band wagon after I read it while back.  I know people who run there parts and love them with no issues.  I have no personal experience with bcm parts/rifles.
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So, if one little issue (over looks) means you won't buy from bcm, what companies DO you buy from?
12/12/2014 2:42:29 AM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=613126

I'm not sure whatever happened regarding this but I guess I have never been on the bcm band wagon after I read it while back.  I know people who run there parts and love them with no issues.  I have no personal experience with bcm parts/rifles.
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So, if one little issue (over looks) means you won't buy from bcm, what companies DO you buy from?
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NcSTAR.  Great cust service always lets me return there stuff on amazon.............Prime of course....
12/12/2014 2:52:05 AM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=613126

I'm not sure whatever happened regarding this but I guess I have never been on the bcm band wagon after I read it while back.  I know people who run there parts and love them with no issues.  I have no personal experience with bcm parts/rifles.
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So, if one little issue (over looks) means you won't buy from bcm, what companies DO you buy from?
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NcSTAR.  Great cust service always lets me return there stuff on amazon.............Prime of course....
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They make firearms? Since when?!?!?

(I know they don't)
12/12/2014 2:58:11 AM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=613126

I'm not sure whatever happened regarding this but I guess I have never been on the bcm band wagon after I read it while back.  I know people who run there parts and love them with no issues.  I have no personal experience with bcm parts/rifles.
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So, if one little issue (over looks) means you won't buy from bcm, what companies DO you buy from?
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NcSTAR.  Great cust service always lets me return there stuff on amazon.............Prime of course....
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They make firearms? Since when?!?!?

(I know they don't)
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Maybe he just holds a $20 NC Star red dot in the air and yells "pew pew pew" ?
12/12/2014 3:07:27 AM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=613126

I'm not sure whatever happened regarding this but I guess I have never been on the bcm band wagon after I read it while back.  I know people who run there parts and love them with no issues.  I have no personal experience with bcm parts/rifles.
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So, if one little issue (over looks) means you won't buy from bcm, what companies DO you buy from?
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NcSTAR.  Great cust service always lets me return there stuff on amazon.............Prime of course....
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They make firearms? Since when?!?!?

(I know they don't)
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Maybe he just holds a $20 NC Star red dot in the air and yells "pew pew pew" ?
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Strapped to his pine twig with zip ties?

Back to tech, OP BCM offers great product at a decent price that I've never had issues with. I don't run them as hard as others might, but a lemon or two isn't enough to disregard a good company. Every business can have an employee who has a bad day.
12/12/2014 3:14:07 AM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=613126

I'm not sure whatever happened regarding this but I guess I have never been on the bcm band wagon after I read it while back.  I know people who run there parts and love them with no issues.  I have no personal experience with bcm parts/rifles.
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Made er hot for my kindle viewing pleasure

ETA- no work for me. Broken clicky
12/12/2014 3:27:47 AM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=613126

I'm not sure whatever happened regarding this but I guess I have never been on the bcm band wagon after I read it while back.  I know people who run there parts and love them with no issues.  I have no personal experience with bcm parts/rifles.
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Made er hot for my kindle viewing pleasure

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Gotcha, man.
12/12/2014 3:32:11 AM EDT
[#27]
BCM is the shiz my niz
12/12/2014 6:23:45 AM EDT
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They are an innovative company with great accessories, customer service, reputation, oh and their rifles are not bad either. Seriously though, the price to quality ratio is amazing,  who needs a 2300 dollar noveske or lwrc? Nobody,  you are just paying for the name. Not that they don't make great weapons, just overpriced. Bcm's are for the working class Americans who demand the best quality at a great price!
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This. I own two of their uppers.
12/12/2014 7:39:12 AM EDT
[#29]
My 20" generic BCM test
12/12/2014 9:41:38 AM EDT
[#30]
Good question, call them and ask......

Oh wait, they dont pick up the phone
12/12/2014 9:53:05 AM EDT
[#31]
and they don't sell complete rifles!
12/12/2014 1:11:27 PM EDT
[#32]
I have owned a stag bushmaster rra and was issued a brand new colt m4 in the army and Bcm has been the best. I do not think you can find a better upper for the price.
12/12/2014 1:13:08 PM EDT
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Yes they do.
12/12/2014 1:26:10 PM EDT
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Because they are good at marketing.
12/12/2014 4:35:56 PM EDT
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Still only half the equation, they still need to make a good product in order to be held in such high esteem by so many people
12/12/2014 6:29:11 PM EDT
[#36]
Buy one and you'll find out for yourself...
12/12/2014 7:33:19 PM EDT
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I have owned a stag bushmaster rra and was issued a brand new colt m4 in the army and Bcm has been the best. I do not think you can find a better upper for the price.
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in which way was the BCM better than the Colt?
12/12/2014 9:21:57 PM EDT
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in which way was the BCM better than the Colt?
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I have owned a stag bushmaster rra and was issued a brand new colt m4 in the army and Bcm has been the best. I do not think you can find a better upper for the price.

in which way was the BCM better than the Colt?



More options,  better finish, not owned by unions, has better customer service, and is willing to come out with new products

Fwiw, i have a 6920
12/16/2014 11:53:37 PM EDT
[#39]
It's been a flawless rifle. BCM is also really innovative which I like.
12/17/2014 9:40:33 PM EDT
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I wanted to build a pistol and heard about BCM uppers complete for about $550.00 complete and knew I had to get one. I have a few friends that have them and they speak nothing but love for them, as do I now. They are built with quality and feel solid.
12/18/2014 7:37:06 AM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=613126

I'm not sure whatever happened regarding this but I guess I have never been on the bcm band wagon after I read it while back.  I know people who run there parts and love them with no issues.  I have no personal experience with bcm parts/rifles.



So, if one little issue (over looks) means you won't buy from bcm, what companies DO you buy from?


NcSTAR.  Great cust service always lets me return there stuff on amazon.............Prime of course....

This reminds me of the D C I live with.
12/18/2014 9:30:02 AM EDT
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The retailer of the lower replaced it.
12/20/2014 8:25:46 AM EDT
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I just completed my first "build" (not really a build, bought a complete lower and a complete upper and slapped them together) it's all BCM and looks all bad ass. fit and finish is great, I'm looking for flaws and can't find any. I just need to test fire it and get it zero'd.
12/23/2014 4:41:26 PM EDT
[#44]
For me it came down to a choice between Daniel Defense and BCM, which are both great companies with great reputations with rifles around the same price point.

What sold me on the BCM over the DD was the BCM bolt carrier group and KMR rail system.  I determined that the barrels were of very similar quality and I do admit that I struggled with which would have better QC.  I know that DD builds the bulk of their parts in-house including their barrels and I respect that simple one-roof approach as I've found in other products that the less fingers in the pie the better.  However, at the end of the day BCM just has this stellar reputation for high QC and just a ridiculous amount of endorsements from highly reputable people that I couldn't discount.  I also liked that BCM is very detailed in providing you the specs they build to and that made me feel like I was making a real informed decision.  Other companies will tell you that they're MILSPEC or whatever, but BCM actually will give you the MIL standard cites.

I've had my KMR 14.5 since Spring of this year and admittedly I haven't torture tested through a carbine course yet, but I do shoot one to three times a month and so far it hasn't failed to impress me.  The KMR rail finish is a bit fragile, but that's the nature of the beast and I take it as an acceptable trade-off for the extreme light weight.

Sure, there are boutique rifle companies with $3K and higher AR builds you can purchase from them, but I've never seen anything so compelling about what they do so as to justify the added expense and lead times over picking up a good AR like a BCM or Daniel Defense.  I mean sure the Salient Arms or War Industries LVOA come with that "tacticool" feature, but I'm not at some gun highschool where I need to impress the cool kids. All I needed was a rifle that just ran and ran with good combat accuracy and that's what I've gotten with the BCM.  Couldn't ask for more and I don't think I really need or want more.



12/25/2014 6:08:07 AM EDT
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It all started when I found out about Filthy 14, so from there on I was a BCM fan, and always will be.
12/25/2014 5:14:22 PM EDT
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This is what made me take a close look at BCM also, and haven't turned back.

1/2/2015 1:10:07 AM EDT
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Gotta love BCM, they are constantly releasing new things into the wild. From stocks to the new KAG. Had I been able to build the complete rifle that I wanted at the time, they were my first choice, but I got a deal on a Daniel Defense that was similarly setup for a few hundred less than I could get from BCM. With their free BCG, that has changed, and they are VERY competetive. Had a BCM before the Daniel Defense and it was top notch, so it all depends on the end user needs.
1/6/2015 7:52:07 AM EDT
[#48]
I started out with BCM uppers on old Bushmaster lowers and now I have four complete BCM rifles. I have had zero problems with any BCM equipment I have bought. There are many lesser ARs out there and only a couple that might be better so I have no valid reason to even look at another brand.