Posted: 5/8/2012 11:02:21 AM EDT
| One of my buddies said the Army sent out an official letter banning the use of all Magpul magazines. Is this true? Complete BS if it is. There's no doubt in my mind the PMAG is worlds better than USGI mags. |
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Quoted: One of my buddies said the Army sent out an official letter banning the use of all Magpul magazines. Is this true? Complete BS if it is. There's no doubt in my mind the PMAG is worlds better than USGI mags. Have not seen anything, but, alas, I am a Guardsman, it may take a bit to filter down. Also, it could be a specific level command banned them..i.e Battalion, regiment, or Brigade commander may have laid down the rule, possible it is not Army wide.... |
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Army says no to polymer mags.
From the chatter I've heard it's primarily because there was no control over which polymer mags guys were buying, and as there are several manufacturers producing magazines of varying quality, it's safer to ban them across the board. |
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One of my buddies said the Army sent out an official letter banning the use of all Magpul magazines. Is this true? Complete BS if it is. There's no doubt in my mind the PMAG is worlds better than USGI mags. The bulletin is a restatement of the same policy TACOM has had since the PMag was released 5 years ago. The only "approved" magazine for the M4 is the USGI. Green or Tan follower magazine. Remember "tan-is the plan, green-start to lean, black-take it back." TACOM LCMC MI 12-021 M4-M16 Improved Magazine and the Use of Commercial Magazines
Originator: /C=US/O=U.S. GOVERNMENT/OU=DOD/OU=ARMY/OU=ORGANIZATIONS/L=CONUS/L=WARREN MI/OU=TACOM/OU=TACOM SAFETYOFUSE(UC) DTG: 301307Z Apr 12 Precedence: PRIORITY DAC: General //UNCLASSIFIED// Subject: Maintenance Information (MI) Message, TACOM Life Cycle Management Command, (TACOM LCMC) Control No. MI: 12-039, M4/M16 Improved Magazine NSN 1005-01-561-7200, Part Number: 13021312, Cage Code: 19200, Old Magazine NSN 1005-00-921-5004, Part Number: 2411362962382, Cage Code: 13629, and the use of commercial magazines. End Items: M16A2 NSN 1005-01-128-9936, M16A3 NSN 1005-01-357-5112, M16A4 NSN 1005-01-383-2872, M4 NSN 1005-01-231-0973, and M4A1 NSN 1005-01-382-0953. 1. Distribution: a. This is a Maintenance Information (MI) Message. Commanders/Directors of Army Commands (ACOM)/Army Service Component Commands (ASCC)/Direct Reporting Units (DRU), Army National Guard (ARNG), US Army Reserve (USAR) Command, US Navy (USN), US Air Force (USAF), US Marine Corps (USMC) and other Service Commanders and Responsible Offices will retransmit this message to all subordinate Commanders/Activities. b. This message will be available on the Safety First Web Site located on the TACOM Unique Logistics Support Applications (TULSA) portal within twenty-four hours of transmission. Access to the Safety First Web Site requires CAC Card authentication. You must first request access to the Safety First Web Site. To request access click here https://tulsa.tacom.army.mil. For assistance, email the TULSA Helpdesk at [email protected]. The Safety First Web Site also has the capability to email Safety and Maintenance messages directly to your inbox. To subscribe to the mailing list, click on, E-Mail Subscriptions, on the Navigation bar. 2. Issue: TACOM has become aware of units ordering 30 rd. commercial (i.e. polymer, etc.) magazines for their M4/M16 family of weapons. The M4/M16 Army authorized magazines are the following: NSN 1005-00-561-7200 (improved magazine) and NSN 1005-00-921-5004 (older magazine; use until exhaustion). 3. User Actions: TM 9-1005-319-10, the Additional Authorized List (AAL), states that NSN 1005-00-921-5004 is authorized, as well as NSN 1005-00-561-7200. Units may use the older magazine NSN 1005-00-921-5004 with the green follower until exhausted. The improved magazine is available in stock, NSN 1005-00-561-7200, and has a tan follower. The improved magazine features an improved follower and follower spring. These new features help to reduce the risk of magazine-related stoppages. Units are only authorized to use the Army authorized magazines listed in the technical manuals. Remember; "tan-is the plan, green-start to lean, black-take it back." Magazines with the black follower are the oldest and should be turned in to your unit supply sergeant or local supply point. 4. Unit Commanders, contact your local TACOM LCMC Logistics Assistance Representative (LAR) or your State Surface Maintenance Manager upon receipt of this message for assistance. For assistance in locating your TACOM LCMC LAR, see below. |
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Army says no to polymer mags. From the chatter I've heard it's primarily because there was no control over which polymer mags guys were buying, and as there are several manufacturers producing magazines of varying quality, it's safer to ban them across the board. "Blanket Bans" screw up a lot of great things...don't even get me started... |
