Posted: 8/8/2009 5:05:02 PM EDT
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With a Weaver K4 mounted,my M4 style carbine will group 5 shots into 2" at 100 yards.It shows signs of doing a lot better as every group has one or two fliers.
One contributor is the lousy trigger.It has a fairly long pull and you can feel it "stacking" which is what I call a lot of "creep". Has anybody found a cost-effective(cheap) solution for this or am I going to have to replace the trigger? Thanks! |
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Quoted: With a Weaver K4 mounted,my M4 style carbine will group 5 shots into 2" at 100 yards.It shows signs of doing a lot better as every group has one or two fliers. One contributor is the lousy trigger.It has a fairly long pull and you can feel it "stacking" which is what I call a lot of "creep". Has anybody found a cost-effective(cheap) solution for this or am I going to have to replace the trigger? Thanks! A poor craftsman always blames his failures on his tooks ... er ... tools. DAMN KEYBOARD. (Grin) Two tours in the Corps taught me to make due with cheap triggers, cheap vehicles ... hell, cheap everythinh .. er .. everything. I am going to have to replace this damn keyboard! SEMPER FI. |
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With a Weaver K4 mounted,my M4 style carbine will group 5 shots into 2" at 100 yards.It shows signs of doing a lot better as every group has one or two fliers. One contributor is the lousy trigger.It has a fairly long pull and you can feel it "stacking" which is what I call a lot of "creep". Has anybody found a cost-effective(cheap) solution for this or am I going to have to replace the trigger? Thanks! A poor craftsman always blames his failures on his tooks ... er ... tools. DAMN KEYBOARD. (Grin) Two tours in the Corps taught me to make due with cheap triggers, cheap vehicles ... hell, cheap everythinh .. er .. everything. I am going to have to replace this damn keyboard! SEMPER FI. That's true,but it's also true that a good craftsman is knowledgable enough to know when a tool is sub-standard. You may have had to deal with poor quality items in the corps,but I'll guarantee that they weren't cheap to the US taxpayer! I was hoping someone could recommend a good replacement trigger,other than the jewell. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: With a Weaver K4 mounted,my M4 style carbine will group 5 shots into 2" at 100 yards.It shows signs of doing a lot better as every group has one or two fliers. One contributor is the lousy trigger.It has a fairly long pull and you can feel it "stacking" which is what I call a lot of "creep". Has anybody found a cost-effective(cheap) solution for this or am I going to have to replace the trigger? Thanks! A poor craftsman always blames his failures on his tooks ... er ... tools. DAMN KEYBOARD. (Grin) Two tours in the Corps taught me to make due with cheap triggers, cheap vehicles ... hell, cheap everythinh .. er .. everything. I am going to have to replace this damn keyboard! SEMPER FI. That's true,but it's also true that a good craftsman is knowledgable enough to know when a tool is sub-standard. You may have had to deal with poor quality items in the corps,but I'll guarantee that they weren't cheap to the US taxpayer! I was hoping someone could recommend a good replacement trigger,other than the jewell. Actually, I am quite satified with the LPK that came with my DTI 20" rifle kit (once I figured out that I had swapped the Bolt Release Spring with the one for the Disconnector). Received the rifle and assembled it on Aug 20, went out and shot it for the first time on Aug 22. 10mm four-round group at 50 yards - Hornady 55 Gr. Spire Point, 25.0 Gr. Accurate 2230 Powder, CCI 400 Primer, Remington Brass. My rifle has the same trigger pull as the one I grew to love in the Corps ... we qualified with iron sights at 500m with M16A1s and were not allowed and artificial support (ground, sand bags, timbers, etc.) for our weapons. SEMPER FI. |
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I feel your pain. Having been a shooter of hunting style rifles since I was pre teen the feel of the regular AR15 trigger is terrible.
I have a regular RRA, CMMG and a RRA 2 stage LPK installed in three different lowers. The trigger pull (drag, creep etc.) was long and draggy on both the regular triggers. The 2 stage is nice. One of the lowers has a screw installed through the pistol grip attachment screw threads in the lower. It pushes the trigger up just slightly so the creep/drag/distance is less. Using that to adjust the trigger makes it feel better - less drag and smoother as well. AGP lowers come with a separate screw to adjust the trigger pull distance. A friend has two on order that hopefully I will try in the next couple of weeks. You can also modify the triggers or have someone do it for you, but I agree something needs to be done. I guess the point is it is not just a Del-ton problem. |
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bill springfield will rework your trigger for i think $35. I'm planning on sending a few of mine to him. Other options if you want to work on it yourself include lightly stoning/polishing the contact surfaces and putting a JP reduced power spring kit. if you'r looking for a whole new trigger the RRA two stage is a decent one for $100 from ADCO, after that Mccormick's and Timney's are supposed to feel pretty good. If you really want the best the Geissele is supposed to really rock but it costs about $300
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