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Posted: 12/16/2001 11:33:24 AM EDT
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10) Bin Laden and the Taliban are not communists. So stop saying, "Let's go kill those Commies!!!" And stop asking us where he is!!!! Crystal balls are not standard issue in the military. That reminds me......if you see anyone calling those damn psychic phone numbers, let me know, so I can kick their ass.
11) Last but not least, whether or not you become a member of my military, support our troops and their families. For EVERY Thanksgiving and Christmas that you enjoy with family and friends, there are thousands of troops overseas longing for just a taste of homemade pumpkin pie or fresh egg-nog and turkey. Wanting for just one hug on a Christmas morning from a loved one. Thank God for our military and the sacrifices they are making every day. Without them, our country would get its ass kicked. [marines] Sent to me from one of my troops. |
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Posted: 12/16/2001 11:39:48 AM EDT
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So... If I never served in the Military i shouldn't wear BDU's?? Even the plain Khaki (non-Camo) ones?
Dang! That's Harsh. |
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Posted: 12/16/2001 11:44:49 AM EDT
[#3]
Paul,
....Well said.. |
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Posted: 12/16/2001 11:49:46 AM EDT
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Posted: 12/16/2001 12:13:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: 5) If you witness someone calling an enlisted Marine "Sir", stand back.....the Marine will kick their ass. What are you supposed to call them? "Jarhead"? Av. |
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Posted: 12/16/2001 12:20:22 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: 5) If you witness someone calling an enlisted Marine "Sir", stand back.....the Marine will kick their ass. What are you supposed to call them? "Jarhead"? Av. Marine will do fine, just don't tell them that they are part of the Navy. If you do, standby to standby. (even if it does say Dept. of the Navy on their paycheck) [:)] Can I come out now? [peep] |
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Posted: 12/16/2001 2:23:17 PM EDT
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Just before you get your ass kicked by a Marine after you call him "sir" you might hear him say "DON'T CALL ME SIR..I WORK FOR A LIVING"!!!
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Posted: 12/16/2001 2:36:58 PM EDT
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true paul. as a machinist in the Air Force i dont know how many times i get asked if i fly jets. i then have to explain what i do and that there are alot of jobs that make up the AF.
p.s. there are actually some of us in the AF that can shoot, we just only get to play with the issued guns once every 2 years. SSgt Payne USAF AK |
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Posted: 12/16/2001 2:48:56 PM EDT
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Since this is a FREE country people can:
1.Burn the flag (I think it's disturbing but it is legal) 2. Ask an Air Force guy anything we want including "Do you fly jets" they do not have to answer if they don't want to. If he is being asked this he is probably somewhere he shouldn't be in uniform. 3. Call a Marine "Sir", most people don't know the little "rules" on what to call each and every service member, so "Sir" is acceptable, again if a Marine is off base he should be out of uniform, go home and change into civ clothes. Bob [thinking] |
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Posted: 12/16/2001 2:55:30 PM EDT
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I used to be an instructor at a Joint Services Training Center at Goodfellow AFB, Tx. As anyone who's been in the military knows, the flag comes down at 5 pm and they play the National Anthem. I used to routinely have to kick Marine asses out the door, as they stood inside at just before 5 pm so as to NOT have to go out and pay their respects to the flag. It made me furious. And it didn't happen just once or twice, it was several times a month and not the same guys. I don't know what problems they had, but they sure got their asses reamed for it. Now, you can say a Marine wouldn't do that..but junior, I saw it, as did many Navy and Army and other AF troops. Don't paint the Marines with a halo, or any service for that matter. Just my two cents.
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Posted: 12/16/2001 8:40:45 PM EDT
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So, where's that communist Taliban at, Sir?
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Posted: 12/16/2001 11:42:23 PM EDT
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So you want to be in the military? No thanks,-Been there,Done that!
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Posted: 12/17/2001 10:29:30 AM EDT
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Marine will do fine, just don't tell them that they are part of the Navy. (even if it does say Dept. of the Navy on their paycheck) [:)] Can I come out now? [peep][/quote] ______________________________________________ MARINES ARE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR A PROPERLY FUNCTIONING NAVY. It is well known that sailors need marines to: 1) March 2) Look "military" 3) Shoot anything smaller than a 5" deck-gun 4) Provide barroom-brawl opponents 5) Open-and-close doors/hatches for sailors [:D] [:D] |
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Posted: 12/17/2001 10:35:29 AM EDT
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That sure is a lot of ass-kicking aimed at US civilians. Certainly a proper military man has better things to do.
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Posted: 12/17/2001 10:47:04 AM EDT
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Speerwessel,
actually most service people are very respectful of civilians - so long as there's no women involved. After all, we were all civilians before the military and are/will be again after the military. Some of these posts are sort of tongue-in-jowl. |
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Posted: 12/17/2001 10:53:04 AM EDT
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Although I was never in the military, I respect those who serve our country. However, lets not forget the civilians who generate the revenue used to finance the military. Without $$$ our military would resemble the Nova Scotian Civil Air Patrol. When my buddies joined the Marines, I went to the University of Wisconsin and got a BA in Business and another in Computer Science. Though I respect my friends for their decision, due to my civilian i.e. well paying job, Uncle Sam has taken enough taxes from me to have bought at least half of an F-18. Furthurmore, I still am a better shot than them. No flames, just my 2 cents.
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Posted: 12/17/2001 11:05:44 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 5) If you witness someone calling an enlisted Marine "Sir", stand back.....the Marine will kick their ass. What are you supposed to call them? "Jarhead"? Av. Marine will do fine, just don't tell them that they are part of the Navy. If you do, standby to standby. (even if it does say Dept. of the Navy on their paycheck) [:)] Can I come out now? [peep] That's the [b]Men's[/b] Department of the Navy!! And don't call me "Sir"! I know who both of my parents are! |
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Posted: 12/17/2001 11:24:35 AM EDT
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Quoted: Although I was never in the military, I respect those who serve our country. However, lets not forget the civilians who generate the revenue used to finance the military. Without $$$ our military would resemble the Nova Scotian Civil Air Patrol. When my buddies joined the Marines, I went to the University of Wisconsin and got a BA in Business and another in Computer Science. Though I respect my friends for their decision, due to my civilian i.e. well paying job, Uncle Sam has taken enough taxes from me to have bought at least half of an F-18. Furthurmore, I still am a better shot than them. No flames, just my 2 cents. _______________________________________________ Bobbyfenn, Like the man said "No bucks no "Buck Rogers." However please don't forget the military also pays taxes. You, me and "they" are all paying for that F-18. |
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Posted: 12/18/2001 12:36:50 AM EDT
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I can't believe you guys taking this seriously...it's like one of those "So you want to date my daughter?" stories. It's funny, and points out pet peeves and funny things when military and "no-clue" civilians interact.
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Posted: 12/18/2001 7:38:28 AM EDT
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I agree that the military needs money. But from what I've seen in the military firsthand, it needs a lot LESS money until higher level brass stop committing fraud,waste, and abuse like its "going out of style". Thats the problem. The military should be cut off of money until $$ stop going towards $50 pen sets and ergonomic foot rests for brass.
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Posted: 12/20/2001 9:27:38 PM EDT
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I figured that this was so far over the top that it didn't need a [;)] but here's one just in case you didn't git it [;)].
If you have to wear BDU's just wear half of the set unless actively engaged in hunting or you live in Alabama (?) - not the whole set with the flag, jump wings and captain's bars and matching jump boots. Marine is a good thing to call a marine. Sir isn't it - this is a dig at the officer class who we have to call sir reguardless of the size of their nads. I've grown to like marines - even more now that they're off of the aircraft carriers. Those are some serious mothers and I'm glad they're on my side, that I out rank most of them, and they respect rank big time. We've got a reserve detachment in the building across the street from my command. By 1000 on 9-11 they were manned and ready around our fence line [:D] Semper Fi bro's! Burn the flag just don't bitch if you get your ass kicked by a bunch of 70 year old Korea war vets! |
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Posted: 12/21/2001 4:08:26 PM EDT
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My Mamma wore combat boots. It was part of the Army uniform she wore in WWII.
She gettin' on a little so she may not be able to kick too many asses lately. But you will know it if you deserve it. |
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Posted: 12/21/2001 8:01:27 PM EDT
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SDavid Marine will do fine, just don't tell them that they are part of the Navy. If you do, standby to standby. Reminds me of my company commander in Navy bootcamp. He was a Marine DI who wised up and swapped to the Navy. I can still picture him telling us why our freshly washed skivies were always tied on the laundry line facing our neighbors, the Marine bootcamp. You guessed it; p*ss on the Marines! And he told us we were the lowest form of life on earth. Nothing was lower except civilians, Waves, and Marines! J_Smith I agree that the military needs money. But from what I've seen in the military firsthand, it needs a lot LESS money until higher level brass stop committing fraud,waste, and abuse like its "going out of style". I resemble that problem, firsthand! At one time I had to track records of each department's spending. Towards the end of each quarter there would be a frenzy of "buying" going on. The idea was to use up all money alloted by quarter's end. If they didn't use it, they'd lose it and be cut back from then on. I've heard civilian government works the same way. There is a built in reason to waste money. |
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Posted: 12/25/2001 7:09:00 PM EDT
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If you ever were stationed at a place like Pearl Harbor, you will learn to stand inside at 8 AM. Most of the world's navies - and all of their training ships stop in at one time or another.
Let's see how much you like standing at attention saluting a loudspeaker for 10 - 15 minutes at a time. BTW, I ran working parties for a short time in Millington, TN. It was embarassing as a squid to watch marines and navy marching in the same formation. The marines looked like, well, marines and the navy looked like uniformed civilians walking along. It motivated me to clean up my act. |
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Posted: 12/25/2001 7:25:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: I've grown to like marines - even more now that they're off of the aircraft carriers They arent on our carriers anymore? Why? I thought Marines guarded ALL the Navy's nuclear arsenal. |
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Posted: 12/29/2001 3:43:52 PM EDT
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[:D] Thanks Paul!
And yes, I will kick your ass if I see you burning the American Flag. One trip thru SERE school will burn the sancity of the US Emblem in your psyche forever. |
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Posted: 12/29/2001 5:50:52 PM EDT
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In regards to the post from the civilian and his high paying job paying for F/A-18's. I seem to recall paying taxes during my five years in the Marine Corps. It is one of the few things that keep the military at the same level as the rest of the citizenry. Could you imagine how much worse the spending waste would be if they weren't indirectly spending their own tax dollars?
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Posted: 1/3/2002 6:50:15 PM EDT
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As an ex Army grunt I use to have a lot of respect for Marines and their ability to kick ass. However, I remember this time in Vietnam sometime in late '68. I was in transit at some air force base near Hue (can't remember the name). We had a gound attack at night. The NVA breached the perimeter. It was guarded by a platoon of Marines. I saw them run like hell. Some even threw down their M-16s so they could run faster. I also saw the Air Force boys stand their ground at the tarmac and prevented the base from being overrun. The AF guys were plane loaders and clerks and service personnel. I don't know if they were dumb and the Marines were smart but it sure changed the way I looked at individuals instead of the uniform.
If you get me too much trouble I'll pay some Air Force dude to kick your ass! |
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Posted: 1/4/2002 1:13:33 AM EDT
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Well I was with BLT 3/1 and served on the same ship for for both of my wespac's.USS Duluth LPD-6,I have lots of friends that are Sailor's and if any of you Marines or Sailor's in the gator Navy know Marines and Gator Sailor's stick together.
Wespac 1998,Marines and sailor's from the Duluth in Bahrain completly destroyed the crew of two frigate's docked at the pier. Officer's and enlisted were all in it matter of fact my co a Major beat the shit out of the commanding officer of one of those frigates they were the same rank though and no one got in trouble. We got a stern talkin to by the Colonel and Captain,they had all Marines and Sailor's on the flight deck locked up at attention,130 degree's outside and all of us drunker than shit. We had people throwin up at attention,it was cool but in the end they said they was proud of us cause we faught together as a team! Say the below fast. Sevenfootelephants aka Semper Fidelis Shrimporfries aka Semper Fi P.S the military can be a lot of fun if you let it,where else can you can go to other countries and see how they live and to enjoy some of the nicest places in the world. I was a 24 year old guy,in the Marines partying in Cairnes Australia for 6 day's straight had a beutiful blonde hangin off me every day,she is way cool.I still e-mail her and talk to her on Yahoo. I took terminal leave and went to Australia to see her and i think she probaly will be the girl i marry. She has been out here to see me too. The military can be the best thing that happens to ya.Really Truly. If you try to buck the system it will bite ya,just do what your told and it's all good to go. 0311 is the best MOS in the Marines by far its not 9-5 like other MOS's,When in garrison the grunts get off early all the people other than grunts aka POGS dont get off till 1630 it was the best Revelle 0530,formation at 0730,Pt at 0815 to about 1000 at 1100 was chow till 1300 at 1315 was end of the day formation then Liberty. Yes There is a downside and training can suck but man there is more good than bad.And training can be fun too. |
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Posted: 1/4/2002 1:37:46 AM EDT
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Hmmm That's odd the marine units were on the USS Theodore Roosevelt & USS Enterprise when i was on them! Of course I got out of the navy in Oct. 98!!! And to the clown that said his taxes that he has paid in would account for half of a F-18....well.... First of all there is no such aircraft!!! It's a F/A-18 Hornet(fighter/attack) and second of all he needs to goto Mcdonell Douglas and see that a hornet is $40 Million not including a/c,cruise, and cd player!!!! As for the Marine comments, I had many friends from the "old" navy/marines...The new guys are for the majority complete idiots!!
"old" marines get nothing but respect from me!!! "yes Gunney!" signed Aviation Electrician's Mate 3rd class VFA-37 (yep its a hornet squadron) [beer] |
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Posted: 1/15/2002 10:13:17 PM EDT
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When ever we heard that the Marines were part of the Navy, we always replied, yep "We are the best part."
Whenever there was a battle to fight the Navy was kind enough to give us a ride there, and issue a Corpsman. |
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Posted: 1/15/2002 10:55:23 PM EDT
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Quoted: So you want to be in the military now?!?! ...snip... we even consider you. Forgive me, no disrespect intended because I respect every member of our Armed Services for the sacrifices they make every day.... but [b]"my military"?, "we consider you"?[/b] get over yourself!!!! Humbley accept our respect instead of making us feel like we should bow down to you in omage (even if we should). You know EVERYONE has something to offer society. We can't ALL be soldiers... Not everyone could go off and fight WWII or no one would be around to build the planes, tanks, etc. And just because I'm not in the military doesn't mean I can't, won't, or don't wanna be. But we all make our choices.... I chose the private sector, the 80K salary, and the stock options at 22 years old. You would have too at my age. 1) Next time you see someone (an adult) talking during the playing/singing of the National Anthem.....kick their ass. Amen... or if he doesn't remove his cover. Is it so hard to do? Worried about a bad hair day? 2) When you witness firsthand someone burning my American Flag in protest...snip... Reminds me of a bumper sticker. "I'm a reasonable guy. You burn my flag I'll attend your funeral" 3) Regardless of the rank they maintained while they served, pay the highest amount of respect to all Veterans. ...snip... AMEN! Every anti-war protestor is spitting in the face of every veteran who ever served! Is there nothing in this world worth fighting for? I say there is. And God bless every one of you who went and fought for it! 4) If you are not in the military, DO NOT pretend that you are. ...snip... (Veterans are exempt from this rule) I'm gonna have ot disagree with you on this one. It's just a piece of clothing. I wear BDU's for Camo. Now it may not be that my life is on the line.... but it keeps me hidden so I can win at paintball.... but I've never claimed to be a Navy SEAL of SF while wearing them. And I hate anyone that does. (guys who are SF don't go around telling anyone they are anyway.... so it's easy to spot the liars) There's a difference between wearing BDU's and pretending you're in the military... now if I spot someone in Class A's... that's too far. 5) If you witness someone calling an enlisted Marine "Sir", stand back.....the Marine will kick their ass. Oh grow up! [sarcasm]"I work for a livin' son!"[/sarcasm] Is it so wrong to show a little respect by saying "sir" or "ma'am" to anyone? 6)Next time you come across an Air Force member, do not ask them "Do you fly a jet?". ...snip...children are exempt) Well duh! Just like every person who works for the airline isn't a pilot. 7) Next time Old Glory prances by during a parade, get on your damn feet and pay homage to her and the military member or Veteran lucky enough to carry her. ...snip... AMEN! 8) Don't try to discuss politics to a military member... snip... I can see him kicking your ass already. No comment. I don't talk much politics with anyone. "Politics, Religion, and Her" isn't that the song? 9) "Your mama wears combat boots"! ..snip How 1950's is that? I never got that either. ---more--- [blue]Just fixed it so the quotes showed up![/blue] |
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Posted: 1/15/2002 11:07:17 PM EDT
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Quoted: 10) Bin Laden and the Taliban are not communists. So stop saying, "Let's go kill those Commies!!!" And stop asking us where he is!!!! Crystal balls are not standard issue in the military. That reminds me......if you see anyone calling those damn psychic phone numbers, let me know, so I can kick their ass. The funniest part is... you're paying $3.99/min for her to tell you stuff you already new about yourself. "You were beaten as a child?" "OH MY GO you're so right!!!" 11) Last but not least, whether or not you become a member of my military, support our troops and their families. For EVERY Thanksgiving and Christmas that you enjoy with family and friends, there are thousands of troops overseas longing for just a taste of homemade pumpkin pie or fresh egg-nog and turkey. Wanting for just one hug on a Christmas morning from a loved one. Thank God for our military and the sacrifices they are making every day. Without them, our country would get its ass kicked. There you go with the "my military" thing again. But AMEN. I may spend a few hours of my holidays at the office... but it's considerably different than spending a holiday on the other side of the world. [marines] Sent to me from one of my troops. For those of you who will flame me. I certainly mean no disrespect. But I think there are a fair share of civilians who get upset with certain military personnel's "elitism". Be proud of what you do... but don't make me feel like less of a citizen because I didn't serve. I support what you do 100% and I think you are grossly underpaid for the amount of sacrafice you give. I would much rather see my hard earned money that goes to taxes spent on your salary than pissed away on foreign aid to some third world country that harbors the very terrorist who would kill us for having been so generous to them. I have many family members that have served. Including an uncle that retired as a Col. after 40 years of service to his country. They are by far my biggest heros. |
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Posted: 1/15/2002 11:12:41 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted: I figured that this was so far over the top that it didn't need a [;)] but here's one just in case you didn't git it [;)]. If you have to wear BDU's just wear half of the set unless actively engaged in hunting or you live in Alabama (?) - not the whole set with the flag, jump wings and captain's bars and matching jump boots. Marine is a good thing to call a marine. Sir isn't it - this is a dig at the officer class who we have to call sir reguardless of the size of their nads. I've grown to like marines - even more now that they're off of the aircraft carriers. Those are some serious mothers and I'm glad they're on my side, that I out rank most of them, and they respect rank big time. We've got a reserve detachment in the building across the street from my command. By 1000 on 9-11 they were manned and ready around our fence line [:D] Semper Fi bro's! Burn the flag just don't bitch if you get your ass kicked by a bunch of 70 year old Korea war vets! OK I guess I took it too serious... I should have read farther before I started getting mad. I'm just still bitter about DvlDog ruining my post about "tacking-Out" with his Holier-Than-Thou attitude. I'll get over it sooner or later. |
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Posted: 1/15/2002 11:16:40 PM EDT
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I resemble that problem, firsthand! At one time I had to track records of each department's spending. Towards the end of each quarter there would be a frenzy of "buying" going on. The idea was to use up all money alloted by quarter's end. If they didn't use it, they'd lose it and be cut back from then on. I've heard civilian government works the same way. There is a built in reason to waste money. Near my house at McChord AFB they would take C-141's out on the tarmac toward the end of the month and just let the engines run. To burn up fuel and hours on the engine so they would have to be replaced sooner. That way they got more fuel money and maintanence money each month. My apartment was a noisy place towrd the end of each month. But what a waste! |
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Posted: 1/30/2002 2:37:43 AM EDT
[#36]
Well said, Paul.
Yes, it's just like "So you want to date my daughter..." Don't get friggin' offended. If you take offense at this... ...stand by. Semper Fi brother... --------------- |
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