Posted: 2/28/2008 9:05:56 AM EDT
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Someone explain to me how the MP Squad of 12 operates with an MTOE with 8 HMMWVs per squad. Thats how the MTOE I received breaks in down and I am not fathoming. Thanks |
| Now that's one heck of a MTOE. When I was an MP, several years ago, it was 10 SM per squad. SL, 3-TL, 6-troops with 3 trucks per squad. I'd check to see if those were there right numbers from where you got the info from. They might have included regular old unarmored HMMWVs that they still have in their motorpool and their uparmors all together if they have both. |
No, I am not an MP, I am the new S-3 for a unit that is creating a subordinate MP Battalion in the National Guard. We have to divide up the squads and teams so we have soldiers in all our little alaska villages. I have to know how you divide 8 HMMWVs among 12 squad members in their organic teams. |
| I'm an MP, although I'm currently not working in that MOS. You didn't say which HMMWV variants you're getting. A typical MP load out is three troops per vehicle, so that would mean you would have at least four M116's. Are you authorized cargo carriers for each platoon? |
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This is a standard MTOE for what is called MP CO Combat Support. Over 50 units have this exact same MTOE. Only NG seems to have them. For those familier with MTOEs, there are 9 squads in para 104. Para 104 has 72 HMMWVs authorized under T92466 (uparmored) Para 104 for personnel has 9 Squad Leaders 27 Team Leaders 36 E4s 36 E5s So you got a squad with 4 Teams of 3 (one team led by the Squad leader) each with 2 HMMWVs. Each NCO gets their own HMMWV while the E4 and E3 split one is the only thing I can think of. |
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I'm not sure how to work out your 12 trucks to 8 men thing. When I deployed under an MP MTOE, I had 10 people counting myself in my squad. I was the SL, I had 3 TL's, and 6 MP's. We had 3 HMMWV's in our squad. Each truck had a TC, driver, and gunner. I was the extra man, and I let the SGT TC the truck while I stayed on the radio, controlling the formation. I sat in the back seat. Just a matter of choice. I really think there's something incorrect about that MTOE. Our entire platoon only had 11 HMMWV's (3 per squad, 1 for PL, 1 for PSG). Please disregard my previous comment about higher stealing trucks. YOU are higher!  (quick, men! It's the S-3! Hide all the extra shit we've 'acquired'!"
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The MTOE is a football bat, but thats what it says. The company of 170 has 90 total HMMWVs |
 Damn, if I was your higher I'd be tasking the heck out of those vehicles. |
I am the higher 
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Odd, but perhaps someone up there looked at readiness rates for M1114's in theather and said "perhaps we need some spares built in". I know, I know....not likely. That is the only explanation I can fathom, however. I bet they gave them a tiny maintenance section for all those too.... |
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Last MP Co I was in was set up as followed: 3 squads - roughly 8-10 people per Each squad had 3 trucks one squad had for 4- the command Platoon Leader vehicle Driver- M249/M9 T/L- M4/M203-M9 Gunner- MK19 or M249 or M60, M4/M9 AG (If you have one) M4/M9 PLGR, NVD's for all and weapons systems, etc. We had more stuff than we knew what to do with. |