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11/22/2004 1:12:09 PM EDT
What's the best enlisted MOS for USMC? By best I mean what will achieve the best mix of high speed bang for buck AND marketability after my service? If I were single and no kids the second part wouldn't be a concern, but I gotta take care of the family when I get out if medical school falls thru. ASVAB cleared me for anything I'm wanting to do. Can you Marines offer some guidance? Thanks!
11/22/2004 4:34:27 PM EDT
[#1]
If you like to pull wrench try going for 3500 field preferably 3522 which is advanced auto & diesel. Mechanic pay will run from 30-50,000 for diesel and 30-60,000 for auto. Plus while doing your tour you'll get to travel alot. Good luck if you join.
11/22/2004 5:07:31 PM EDT
[#2]
That's easy......U.S. Navy Hospital Corpsman!!!!!!hug.gif
11/22/2004 5:13:04 PM EDT
[#3]

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That's easy......U.S. Navy Hospital Corpsman!!!!!!



...+1 The best of both worlds.....
11/22/2004 6:11:00 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
If I were single and no kids the second part wouldn't be a concern, but I gotta take care of the family when I get out if medical school falls thru. ASVAB cleared me for anything I'm wanting to do. Can you Marines offer some guidance? Thanks!



If your talking about medical school then you have probably gone to college.  If you have a degree stop  by an OSO (Officer Selection Office) and tell them you want to fly.  It's an eight year contract but you will have a smooth transition into civilian life.
11/23/2004 2:45:00 AM EDT
[#5]
Avionics. Air Traffic Controller. C130 Navigator.
11/23/2004 7:30:55 PM EDT
[#6]
0311
11/26/2004 6:46:34 AM EDT
[#7]
2141 aav mech. lots of wrenching,travel and shoot outs. work with grunts alot.
11/26/2004 7:04:43 AM EDT
[#8]
03xx, 08xx,13xx, 18xx
11/26/2004 7:32:52 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Avionics. Air Traffic Controller. C130 Navigator



They've closed the Navigator MOS & school house with the advent of the KC-130J....the currently qual'd Nav's are going to the USMCR KC-130T squadrons, until they attrite.
11/26/2004 1:21:13 PM EDT
[#10]
I'll toss in with the Corpsman vote.

Just don't fall into the Navy trap. Keep pushing for service with the FMF. I spent 10 years in the Corps (June 93-July 03), can't stand squids, but the Docs are top notch in any jarheads book. Braver than most, to boot.
11/26/2004 5:37:22 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Avionics. Air Traffic Controller.



+1
11/27/2004 1:27:30 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Avionics. Air Traffic Controller.



+1
12/17/2004 5:54:41 PM EDT
[#13]
I've been looking hard at the Comms MOS lately because it seems to offer a butt-load of options as far as who you work with and what you do. Anyone a commdog here?
12/17/2004 6:00:10 PM EDT
[#14]
Drive the Cobra!
12/17/2004 6:02:34 PM EDT
[#15]
can't do it unless I finish my degree first, and I already had to get an age waiver as it was.
12/17/2004 6:31:52 PM EDT
[#16]
I won't go comm, it is always a high turn over MOS on the officer side of the house and because of the way their monitor treat them it is hard for the enlisted Marines to get to B-Billets, so they get kind of screwed when it comes time for senior level SNCO promotions.
12/17/2004 6:53:27 PM EDT
[#17]
Ah, that is good to know. Thanks.
12/18/2004 8:56:11 PM EDT
[#18]
I was an 0311.  Walked alot and carried a bunch of gear.

Switched to a 1371.  Walked alot and carried even more gear.
12/21/2004 7:16:49 PM EDT
[#19]
What does your recruiter say?
12/22/2004 6:29:15 AM EDT
[#20]
He can't recommend a career path for me, all he can do is give me info. But he worked an ANGLICO billet and man is that sounding fun.
12/22/2004 6:50:39 AM EDT
[#21]

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He can't recommend a career path for me, all he can do is give me info. But he worked an ANGLICO billet and man is that sounding fun.



What do you mean working an ANGLICO billet?  ANGLICO selects entry level Marines depending on PFT score, when your a Ft Sill or 29 Palms for either MASOC or Radiomen school, they will issue orders to either unit depending on your PFT score.  They won't send a low PFT score Marine to a unit that will work with Army and SOCOM units.
12/22/2004 9:12:31 AM EDT
[#22]
My bad, billet was used incorrectly. Take it easy Francis.
12/23/2004 6:29:15 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
I've been looking hard at the Comms MOS lately because it seems to offer a butt-load of options as far as who you work with and what you do. Anyone a commdog here?



Comm worked for me, I was wire/switching and it has plenty of civ side work.  If I were going to do it again I would go for satcom.  I never had much of the turnover in the O ranks as someone else mentioned. I was in 6 units in 8 years with 2 MOS's though.

From 88-96, I was with
MWCS-28 -air wing
3/12 artillery
9th Comm/1st SRIG (If I had been a radio operator, could have gone a jumping)
1st Marines
SOI
MCTSSA (Marine Corps Tactical Systems Support Activity) R&D stuff
12/23/2004 8:37:09 AM EDT
[#24]

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Comm worked for me, I was wire/switching and it has plenty of civ side work.  If I were going to do it again I would go for satcom.  I never had much of the turnover in the O ranks as someone else mentioned. I was in 6 units in 8 years with 2 MOS's though.



Comm is always a MOS in which Officers don't stay in, they do there 3-4 year stint and get out.  Ever year non-Comm guys were augmented as Comm Officers because the guys who started as Com-Os got out.  

The only MOS's, in at least the Marine Corps, that don't have this problem for officers are pilots and combat arms (03, 08,13, 18) all the other support MOSs have a large number of their officers get out every year,  It just gets back to the fact very few people join to be Log-Os or Sup-Os, but they join to pull triggers.
12/23/2004 4:57:45 PM EDT
[#25]
I'm in comm, if you want something that will be good on the outside, look at 0618, compact digital switch/REDCOMM operator.  If you're not comming in for a while, there is a new MOS opening in October, will be entry level Technical Controller.  Right now the MOS starts at Sgt.  If it is comm, we play with it.  We have a lot of turner over, are always undermanned, and always deployed.  Right now there are only about 150 of us in the Corps.  The powers that be want to make 180 more of us.  Hence the opening to entry level.  There is money on the outside for the same job.
12/27/2004 5:32:52 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
I'm in comm, if you want something that will be good on the outside, look at 0618, compact digital switch/REDCOMM operator.  If you're not comming in for a while, there is a new MOS opening in October, will be entry level Technical Controller.  Right now the MOS starts at Sgt.  If it is comm, we play with it.  We have a lot of turner over, are always undermanned, and always deployed.  Right now there are only about 150 of us in the Corps.  The powers that be want to make 180 more of us.  Hence the opening to entry level.  There is money on the outside for the same job.



Has Comm renumbered from the historical 2500's?  I was 2512 and 2515(ULCS)
12/27/2004 5:53:13 PM EDT
[#27]
Comm is now the 06xx OCC field.
12/30/2004 5:35:14 AM EDT
[#28]
I'm more familiar with the Army side of the house, but comms is a safe bet.  There are low-level guys in radio/commo platoons in line battalions and there are signal/radio battalions that are working in the rear on more complex/marketable systems.  Since so much of the military uses email and computers and so forth you can work a lot on computers and less on radios at those levels.
1/12/2005 1:30:08 PM EDT
[#29]
Stay the fuck away from Comm.  Especially the Telecomm maint field.  You'll most likely wind up working on a bench while every one else is doing interesting shit.  Been there, done that.

Combat engineers is great work and EOD also.

2891/2823/18/15/11
1/12/2005 5:48:11 PM EDT
[#30]
even 0621? I've been talking to my recruiter about ANGLICO.
1/13/2005 2:50:41 AM EDT
[#31]

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even 0621? I've been talking to my recruiter about ANGLICO.



Do you understand the active duty ANGLICOs aren't what they use to be?  They are trying to get back on jump status, but still aren't.
1/13/2005 3:38:09 AM EDT
[#32]
Even if it is 0621....my daughter just got out as a SSgt 0621.

There are VERY FEW billet vacancies for ANGLICO, Recon, or Force Recon for anybody, much less radiomen.

You will be VERY lucky to be assigned a unit where you might even have the possiblity of volunteering for one of those outfits and secondly, you will have to be EXTREMELY fit, be able to use your head, and have superior tactical/professional knowledge/experience.

Most 0621's wind up in combat support or combat service support type units.

You want to be ANGLICO/RECON, I would say either 0300 or 0800 (for ANGLICO).

Any body else have any ideas?

Semper Gumby.....hug.gif
1/13/2005 3:47:40 AM EDT
[#33]
The majority of the junior Marines in ANGLICO are 0861s.  If you get a 08xx occ field contract your MOS will be determined at Fort Sill based on  1) when you arrive at the school and what the next MOS school date is 2) Your GT score.  Higher GTs are sent to school to be 084x (FDC, Radar, Met, Survey) and guys with average scores are sent to be 0811s or 0861s (cannoneers or scout observers).  
1/13/2005 6:36:31 AM EDT
[#34]
0311 then 8541!

I have some good freinds who were ANGLICO and RECON.  Of the two.... I would say Recon is the better route.  
1/21/2005 8:45:50 PM EDT
[#35]
Good luck with the satcom idea. I was 2nd in my class, even requested satcom from the very beginning, back in the recruiters office. Completed 4 years as a 2531 and 0621 (got caught in the middle of the switch) requested satcom and got the finger..so, they got the finger. Even had smaj try to beat some sense into the monitor, but he said if the shit ain't open, it ain't open. Pretty low turnover field.
1/21/2005 8:51:47 PM EDT
[#36]
Or you could be both combat support or serve an HQ role , my first year I was with FSSG in Oki, then BSSG-3 for a little stint in Aussy, shortly thereafter, 2nd Mardiv, 2nd AA Bn, in the asshole of all assholes, Courthouse Bay at Lejeune as an AAV junky. More of a damned tech than an oper though, the yard monkeys got to do all the talking, I just got to fix the stuff they broke, at least until Iraq when they realized they didn't know how to get arty to fire where they wanted..
1/22/2005 5:44:33 AM EDT
[#37]

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The majority of the junior Marines in ANGLICO are 0861s.  If you get a 08xx occ field contract your MOS will be determined at Fort Sill based on  1) when you arrive at the school and what the next MOS school date is 2) Your GT score.  Higher GTs are sent to school to be 084x (FDC, Radar, Met, Survey) and guys with average scores are sent to be 0811s or 0861s (cannoneers or scout observers).  



I take that to mean that the USMC still enlists folks into a career field, but not a specific MOS? Hpw does that work when filling USMCR units?


I will +1 for the mechanic reccomendation, assuming that the USMC does its mechanics like the Army and allows the higher speed ones to attend civilian certification classes from Catterpillar, Frieghtliner, Oshkosh etc. It is not a get rich quick job when you get out, but it is a steady and constant job field, unlike many of the telecm related jobs. After a couple years take as many ASE certification tests as you can and start buying tools.

If you were considering the Army I would say go 52D, power generation repairer. Installing and maintaining backup generators is a HUGE growth area that shows no sign of slowing down, and it is really not taught in any schools in the civilian side.... companies like Kohler, Cat, Generac ETC are snapping up good 52D's as fast as they can! I know a guy who just got out after 6 years as a 52D and walked right into a job making about 40K doing this, and in the area he is in 40K is excellent money. I have no clue what the equvelent USMC MOS is or if you can specificly enlist into it however.
1/22/2005 6:31:14 AM EDT
[#38]
SMCR Marines are enlisted into MOSs, the I&I staff produces a MOS density list every year, that contains all the MOSs and their population density within  the unit,  this will list current needs and project what will need in the coming years.  Since the projection is 5 years out it is a bit of a SWAG.  Those numbers are used by MFR and HQMC to come up with what the prior service and standard recruiters have as goals to recruit for the next FY. The non prior service recruiter attempts to match the recruit to something he wants, what his GT allows him to have and what is still available for the FY. The prior service recruiter does similar, but will normally contact the I&I staff to see if when the RQSN says they need an MOS, does the I&I actually want a Marine in that MOS or does he (they) have more of a need for another MOS.  The prior service Marines are enlisted into units and often require MOS training, depending on MOS they may do either OJT or may have to go to the MOS school.  Some MOSs only require 1 year in that MOS, proficiency testing and an AT to be MOS qualified for reservists who have had another MOS, other MOS require either the full MOS school or in a few rare cases a truncated reserve version of the school.