Posted: 3/9/2013 1:13:31 PM EDT
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I thought you could not wear a CAB and a CIB at the same time, same level of award and such? |
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Quoted: https://www.facebook.com/WNEMTV5/posts/349615738490186#!/photo.php?fbid=2616505868207&set=pb.1721920048.-2207520000.1362867028&type=3&theater I thought you could not wear a CAB and a CIB at the same time, same level of award and such? There's a lot of WTF in that pic but from his FB he's NG so probably mistakes rather than posing. Not sure about the CAB/CIB thing. CAB isn't in the reg yet and I don't have a CAC reader handy to log in and look through messages. It's possibly ok though, Infantry badges are in group 1, Medic badges are 2, Aviation is 3, group 4 is Airborne, Air Assault, Ranger, SF, Pathfinder, and HALO, 5 is divers, riggers, and drivers. You can wear one each from 1 2 and 3, up to 3 from 4 and up to 2 from 5, not to exceed 5 total including marksmanship which is a separate group of it's own. Guy on the left wearing Infantry cord and discs but Quartermaster Regimental crest? Guy on the right wearing SF regimental crest and SF combat ID badge but no tab? No DUIs on his shoulders either. Can't tell from the pic what branch insignia they're wearing but doesn't look like SF arrows. No Airborne wings either. No stars on his ICM or ACM? |
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And the guy is retired, so he gets a pass in my book. Not that its right by regs, just something better to do with your time than beating up a old retired guy on uniform regs. Free Quoted:
The short answer is no, you can't wear a CIB and CAB at the same time. |
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Quoted: nope he's no poser he's a retired 92. went over to the sf in the washington nat guard for a few years, holds many mos's. He looks like a bag of shit. And that's not insinuate he was SF. "Chris Dunbar Santiago wouldn't have lasted a week in my first unit and 2 weeks in my second. Garrison bullshit didn't fly very far with a Combat unit." LOL! |
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That's a ton of service stripes for a SSG and SFC... Not in the Guard, it isn't. I've seen E-4's with that many service stripes.  Yea, still boggles my mind though. Wasn't that guy active for awhile? My brother-in-law retired from the Navy as an E-6 (20 years) and I'd be lying if I said that didn't have a huge impact on my initial impression of him. |
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That's a ton of service stripes for a SSG and SFC... And they spent alot of time overseas if you look at the overseas service bars... I noticed that too. I can't see it clearly on my phone, but I am guessing 3+ tours each. The E-6 has 5 overseas bars, the E-7 has 7. |
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The short answer is no, you can't wear a CIB and CAB at the same time. This is correct just like you can not wear a CIB and an EIB at the same time. Yes I have had to correct some fellow SSG's and some SFC's about that one. 
You can not wear an CAB and an EIB together either if you have earned the EIB as an 11 series, I have seen some guy's doing that also. 
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The short answer is no, you can't wear a CIB and CAB at the same time. This is correct just like you can not wear a CIB and an EIB at the same time. Yes I have had to correct some fellow SSG's and some SFC's about that one.
You can not wear an CAB and an EIB together either if you have earned the EIB as an 11 series, I have seen some guy's doing that also. AFAIK the only way to earn an EIB is as an 11 series, so I'm a bit confused at this statement. What if someone re classes and then deploys and earns a CAB? Two different awards and only one of them is a combat award. |
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Quoted: Originally AFAIK the only way to earn an EIB is as an 11 series, so I'm a bit confused at this statement. What if someone re classes and then deploys and earns a CAB? Two different awards and only one of them is a combat award. 18 series as well get earn and wear CIB's. 18D's can earn a CMB. |
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AFAIK the only way to earn an EIB is as an 11 series, so I'm a bit confused at this statement. What if someone re classes and then deploys and earns a CAB? Two different awards and only one of them is a combat award. 18 series as well get earn and wear CIB's. 18D's can earn a CMB. That's what I thought. I just looked it up and the EIB, CIB, and CAB are all group one badges so mixing them is a no go. |
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I can understand not allowing CIB and CAB, which in theory anyway are awarded for basically the exact same thing except to different MOS', to be worn at the same time but to me you should be able to wear both an EIB and a CIB/CAB if you rate both...they're awarded for two completely separate things.
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18D's can earn a CMB. If you're an 18D and engage in combat you would be eligible for both the CMB and CIB, right?? Is it the command's discretion as to which one you're awarded, or are you awarded both (but only allowed to wear one at a time)?? |
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Quoted: I can understand not allowing CIB and CAB, which in theory anyway are awarded for basically the exact same thing except to different MOS', to be worn at the same time but to me you should be able to wear both an EIB and a CIB/CAB if you rate both...they're awarded for two completely separate things. (not an 11-series and have never been one, so YMMV) Quoted: 18D's can earn a CMB. If you're an 18D and engage in combat you would be eligible for both the CMB and CIB, right?? Is it the command's discretion as to which one you're awarded, or are you awarded both (but only allowed to wear one at a time)?? Yes. The commander will generally square the 18D away with what he's missing at the end-of-tour. |
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The gentleman wearing the SF regimental crest does not have jump wings (neither of them do), since you have to be jump qualified to be an 18 series neither of them have been or ever were 18 series (they would be wearing the jump wings if they were) so at the very least they are straight legs that might have been have been attached to a SF unit at one time. Since 11B MOS are not typically attached to SF Units, it raises several questions for me. When you see something like that, it makes you wonder about the rest of the awards. This is where I would call bullshit and ask to see the DD-214. The excuse of being retired doesn't cut it. Proper wear of the uniform is proper wear whether retired or not. The regs are also pretty clear about that.
SGM Mark Pierce (RET) 18Z |
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I agree with the Sergeant Major. As do I, except for one point. There are plenty of 11 series GPF type folks attached to SF in AFG. Allowing SF to do their jobs versus get wrapped up in security/providing support/etc. That being said, he shouldn't be affiliated with a unit where his MOS does not typically exist. and only my opinion, wearing another unit's patch as SSI-FWTS or CSIB is gayer than aids. b. Combat arms soldiers may affiliate with any of the combat arms regiments consistent with their primary military occupational specialty (PMOS), specialty code, special qualification identifiers (SQI), or additional skill identifiers (ASI). |