Posted: 12/16/2009 3:55:14 PM EDT
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Sounds like its going to be a joyous occasion... I'm having some buddies get pics and video. I'll try to post it up tomorrow.
We'll have to do takedowns and defend ourselves after we get sprayed. Is this usual for the training that you received after being sprayed? Can't wait to be doing some pr-24 strikes while partially blinded haha 
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Ours was a mini course with three ASP pad stations and a draw weapon, order suspect to the ground and handcuff them.
I didn't have it that bad, some people took it really, really bad. Must have been all those years of getting sweat in my eyes I guess... Good luck.
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HA HA! OC sucks!
When I started, my departments training consisted of going on a call with a certain veteran officer, who would eventually end up OCing the bad guy, you, and everyone else within reach. And if he didn't get you with the initial blast, you were then made to go in to cuff the bad guy, then he got stuck in your cruiser to be transported. The alternative "training" happened when a bad guy started to act up in the back of your car, and the above mentioned officer would then come and fill your cruiser full of OC. Ah, the memories! I quit carying OC when I got a Tazer. |
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Enjoy.....  Casitllo, one word answer: Worse or better than the CS Chamber? Worse So much worse. CS will go away a few minutes after you get some fresh air. OC last for 30-60 minutes depending on the dose and your tolerance to it. And even when it goes away, it might randomly 're-activate' on you a little later. There is a reason why it seems the guy from the agency who came by to help out will spray, then leave 
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Four times. Never again. I'll go bag groceries.
Last one was a half mile run followed by a use of force scenario, then hitting the bag, then a full on spray, then jumping jacks, then negotiate an obstacle course, then hit the bag some more, then cuff a 180 lb dummy, then articulate to the instructor why you used the level of force that you did. Never again. |
| It felt like I had stuck my face on a runaway bbq grill... Enjoy it you'll be fine and trade OC day stories around beers for years to come. Don't let anyone BS you about putting cream or something on your face, the only thing that works is lots of soap in a cool shower - hot water makes your pores open up and it burns worse and lasts longer. |
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Dude... You are so gonna hate life, at least for about an hour or so.
I've been sprayed several times... Get's worse as I get older. I've also done CS training and OC is FAR worse! I'd rather be Tazed anytime of the week over being sprayed. When I joined the dept. I'm with now (two years ago), I had to endure OC training yet again. We got sprayed and had to fight two stations and run to the end of a field and field strip a Glock. Then we had to run back to the other end, draw and order a suspect to the ground then reholster before starting the recovering process... It was pure hell!!! I dunked my face in a bucket of running water while staring at the bottom of the bucket. That actually felt great until you have to breathe and take your face out of the bucket and the pain started all over again. When that wasn't really working for me anymore, I wandered into our ATV/training building, adjacent to the field, where I found that alternating between sticking your face in a freezer and in front of a fan worked awesome. Ultimately, the only thing that really helped was to just take it until it subsided... When I was younger, that only took about 15 minutes. Now it takes about an hour which seems like an eternity! The biggest thing is to just not panic and slow your breathing down. One of the dudes this last time around panicked so bad I, and several others, thought he was gonna die. I'm not kidding! During this last training, one of the instructors/torturers was smoking. I looked at his lit cigarette and the thought actually crossed my mind that it would feel better to stick that in my eye then the OC. During this, I actually thought about ending my law enforcement career... Enjoy.
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HAHA, sorry could resist. I have been probably a dozen times between academy, dept training and OC Inst school. It sucks the first couple of times but you tend to get used to it. I would however take a hit from a Taser any day of the week over OC. Taser sucks for 5 seconds, OC sucks for 30 minutes, LOL, that is until you hope in the shower tonight and the hot water hits it and fires it up again. OC is the gift that keeps giving
Have fun J- |
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****UPDATE*****
HOLY MARY MOTHER OF GOD. I would do the CS chamber all day to avoid this. I have never felt pain that intense before in my life. I've nearly had to have my thumb amputated and I've been shot in the face with one of those fancy super fast pellet rifles. OMG the pain is incredible. My CPT had to lead e away from the rest of the PLT so I didn't freak the guys who were going after me out. My eyes are still alittle 'warm' and I got it done about an hour and a half ago. I'm now afraid to take a shower. If you ever wanted to see an entire Platoon of 2nd Lieutenants at their weakest... then come to Fort Leonard Wood and watch the MP LTs get sprayed. WHAT AN EXPERIENCE. There was some video taken of me during this whole thing. I will see what I can do to post it up. I imagine its pretty embarrassing.... |
| A girl I went to OC instructor school with didn't have a lot of room on her belt, so she carried a small can in her left front pants pocket. Well some how the nozzle got moved out of the safe position and when she bent over to pick something up, the OC went off, and hit her THERE. She ended up in the Emergency Room. |
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****UPDATE***** HOLY MARY MOTHER OF GOD. I would do the CS chamber all day to avoid this. I have never felt pain that intense before in my life. I've nearly had to have my thumb amputated and I've been shot in the face with one of those fancy super fast pellet rifles. OMG the pain is incredible. My CPT had to lead e away from the rest of the PLT so I didn't freak the guys who were going after me out. My eyes are still alittle 'warm' and I got it done about an hour and a half ago. I'm now afraid to take a shower. If you ever wanted to see an entire Platoon of 2nd Lieutenants at their weakest... then come to Fort Leonard Wood and watch the MP LTs get sprayed. WHAT AN EXPERIENCE. There was some video taken of me during this whole thing. I will see what I can do to post it up. I imagine its pretty embarrassing.... Sorry Chin, I like you and all, but there's nothing that would ever get me to go back to FLW... ever. |
| haha i got sprayed in november in my academy and it hurt way worse than i thought it was going to. luckily our instructor was there to water us down with a hose after lol... cold water gushing into your eyes = good the second the water went to the next cadet = instant pain again lol |
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CS / CN / Mace were not fun but OC left my pale face with chemical burns and seriously screwed me up. Of course the instructor I had felt the need to dump a quarter of a can on each of us (or so it seemed). I will kill the next person that attempts to spray it on me. 
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****UPDATE***** HOLY MARY MOTHER OF GOD. I would do the CS chamber all day to avoid this. I have never felt pain that intense before in my life. I've nearly had to have my thumb amputated and I've been shot in the face with one of those fancy super fast pellet rifles. OMG the pain is incredible. My CPT had to lead e away from the rest of the PLT so I didn't freak the guys who were going after me out. My eyes are still alittle 'warm' and I got it done about an hour and a half ago. I'm now afraid to take a shower. If you ever wanted to see an entire Platoon of 2nd Lieutenants at their weakest... then come to Fort Leonard Wood and watch the MP LTs get sprayed. WHAT AN EXPERIENCE. There was some video taken of me during this whole thing. I will see what I can do to post it up. I imagine its pretty embarrassing.... I'd pay good money to see that actually LT 
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It hurt but I think I got out ok, my biggest problem was I kept wiping my face with my shirt I had taken off. Basically I was just reapplying it every few minutes. Once I stopped that I headed home and jumped in my aunts salt water pool no problems after that.
on the other hand though some of the guys in our group had serious reactions to it. A few guys had chemical burns all over there face....it was gross |
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Tip : If you know this is coming up, don't shave that day. I will remember this when it become time for me to do it, in the next month. That works until the instructor catches you doing that and makes you dry-shave before your spray. Guess I will just have to shave early that day. Anyone have any experience with the Sabre Decon products? For just in case.
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Tip : If you know this is coming up, don't shave that day. I will remember this when it become time for me to do it, in the next month. That works until the instructor catches you doing that and makes you dry-shave before your spray. Guess I will just have to shave early that day. Anyone have any experience with the Sabre Decon products? For just in case.
Damn, that shit is hot.
Not as bad as I thought it was gonna be. Three years of anticipation can be a bitch. |
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I felt the actual "pain" effects for a good hour after being hit with LE 10.
I then felt like I had a heat lamp or the worlds worst sun burn on my face, neck, collar bones, and backs of my hands, for about 4 hours from the first contact. I came home and took the longest shower ever. I actually laid down in the shower, face closest to the drain, twig and berries elevated so water ran from my groin towards my belly. I sat their for probably 30 minutes with the water just running over my face. During that stage of the academy we were shaving our heads with a bic razor. I used a TON of shaving cream on my head/face and as I shaved it seemed to help a bit. Think it exfoilated the skin that had the capspacinoid/oc/pepper bits imbedded in the skin. Next day, when I sweat during our smoking sessions, I still felt the effects a bit. Some of the guys with more sensitive skin and eyes felt it for roughly 36 hours after initial spray. Class size was around 40-45 cadets, even the training officers who were there for the day felt a bit of the bite still and they weren't directly sprayed. HATE THAT STUFF! |