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11/26/2009 7:57:00 AM EDT
Anyone use open cuff cases? how is the retention? I'm currently in a modular academy, and next semester I am going to need to get some cuff cases on my duty belt as well. I like how the open cuff cases seem like they would be easier to return the cuffs in a stressful situation. Open to suggestions to all brands and styles. I like this style of bianchi case.

http://www.lapolicegear.com/bi79opcuca.html

Thanks
Kevin
11/26/2009 9:06:00 AM EDT
[#1]
Those are pretty decent cases. A lot of guys I work with use them. They cover most of the cuffs so they cannot come out accidentily. I would like to use them, but I carry Peerless hinged cuffs and they don't fit. For chained they work great or so I'm told. I ended up buying a Bianchi double cuff case to minimize real estate on my belt and rarel need just one set of cuffs on a call.
11/26/2009 11:01:39 AM EDT
[#2]
What do you mean by "easier to return the cuffs in a stressful situation"? I guess you'll learn that you should have your person in control before putting cuffs on. If you are in a stressful situation with the cuffs out, you can drop the cuffs. Your safety is important.
11/26/2009 11:18:02 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
What do you mean by "easier to return the cuffs in a stressful situation"? I guess you'll learn that you should have your person in control before putting cuffs on. If you are in a stressful situation with the cuffs out, you can drop the cuffs. Your safety is important.


I think that he means they wont fall out in a fight.  I agree, uncooperative people do not get handcuffed until they become cooperrative.
11/26/2009 5:05:54 PM EDT
[#4]
I use asp hinged cuffs in an open top case. I use a Don Hume (model c305 M). It took a little bit of time (week or so of me pulling them out and putting them back in a few times a day) until the case stretched enough so it wasn't a fight to get them out. I have had zero trouble with the case since it stretched. I can't recall a time the cuffs have come out except when I took them out.

Here's the case:
Don Hume C305M
11/26/2009 6:16:52 PM EDT
[#5]
I'd argue in favor of a closed top case.  Handcuffs are one of the top 3 most important tools you carry and the more you protect them (i.e. keeping them from getting rained or snowed on) the better.  If you are pretty religious with cleaning and oiling them, then an open top case is just fine.
11/26/2009 7:36:50 PM EDT
[#6]
luckily I live in Palm Springs California. We don't get rain, snow, humidity, ect. lol  
Thanks for all the input gentlemen!
11/26/2009 9:26:16 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
luckily I live in Palm Springs California. We don't get rain, snow, humidity, ect. lol  
Thanks for all the input gentlemen!


Open top away then

I'd suggest the Safariland 090 for open top.  They hold the cuffs very securely and look good.  I used to use open top, but living/working in Seattle tended to rust the cuffs pretty quick.
11/27/2009 5:24:39 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
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luckily I live in Palm Springs California. We don't get rain, snow, humidity, ect. lol  
Thanks for all the input gentlemen!


Open top away then

I'd suggest the Safariland 090 for open top.  They hold the cuffs very securely and look good.  I used to use open top, but living/working in Seattle tended to rust the cuffs pretty quick.


+1 on these.  Carried 'em for years with zero issues.  

Good retention, no more random open cuff case flaps, and you can get to your cuffs more quickly.

An added (and maybe the biggest) benefit of these is that your back will thank you during and after long periods of sitting in the car.  They're much slimmer than most cases.

11/27/2009 9:19:04 AM EDT
[#9]
My safariland open tops work well, I carry two....I use ASP hinged cuff's.
11/27/2009 5:59:50 PM EDT
[#10]
To each their own, but good basic handcuff training preaches to say no to straps and open cuff cases for obvious security reasons.  
Many incidents in my area alone of dirtballs going after a cops cuffs.  Don't make it any easier.  Cuffs generally attract dust and dirt so as stated clean then regularly.
11/29/2009 4:20:18 PM EDT
[#11]
just food for thought. I had a guy turn around once and put his hands behind his back thinking was going to just pat him down. When he heard the snap on my handcuff case pop he took off running.
11/29/2009 4:33:44 PM EDT
[#12]
I use two Don Hume open top cases, for a set of ASP and regular Smiths. They have a pull through snap that is very secure. They are popular here in Oklahoma because they are made right here in NE Oklahoma. The problem I had with the Safariland was the fact that they are a bitch to get back in the case, very tight.
11/29/2009 4:40:22 PM EDT
[#13]
I have used Safariland open top cases in the past.  I had an issue of them cracking at the seams after a few years of service.  I use the closed top models with the velcro fastener on the flap.
12/1/2009 11:05:15 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
just food for thought. I had a guy turn around once and put his hands behind his back thinking was going to just pat him down. When he heard the snap on my handcuff case pop he took off running.


I would think that even during a patdown you would want to have positive control over the suspect.  If you had him leaning against a car or a hold on his intertwined fingers I dont think this would have been an issue.
12/2/2009 5:23:50 AM EDT
[#15]
I've never used a handcuff case, just one more thing to fuck around with when you're trying to cuff someone IMO.  Half under the belt, half hanging out, in front of my holster - simple, fast.