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5/15/2007 4:45:24 PM EDT
Poll Coming!

I cuff with my strong hand (right) and cuff their right hand (usually also their strong) first.
5/15/2007 4:46:09 PM EDT
[#1]
IBTP
5/15/2007 4:48:30 PM EDT
[#2]
when they're friendly, gently and with caring and compassion.

When they resist, I do it any way i can!

Isn't that always the answer?
5/15/2007 4:48:52 PM EDT
[#3]
To the headboard, she likes the padded cuffs
5/15/2007 4:49:30 PM EDT
[#4]
I usually sit on my left hand for 15 minutes prior to make it a challenge
5/15/2007 4:49:38 PM EDT
[#5]
wait now that theres a poll...

Are you talking about cuffing two suspects with one set of cuffs?
5/15/2007 4:50:52 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
wait now that theres a poll...

Are you talking about cuffing two suspects with one set of cuffs?


good question
5/15/2007 4:50:56 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
wait now that theres a poll...

Are you talking about cuffing two suspects with one set of cuffs?
Negative.  Which hand do you use to hold the cuffs and which hand do you cuff 1st on the suspect.
5/15/2007 4:51:55 PM EDT
[#8]
hold with left, cuff with right...

ah shit.  I'm not an LEO & I'm in the BOTS forum.

Sorry lawdawgs.  
5/15/2007 4:55:52 PM EDT
[#9]
We're allowed to cuff people?
5/15/2007 5:32:22 PM EDT
[#10]
If they are compliant, I hold the cuffs in my right (strong) hand, and have them hold their hands behind their back, palms out. I cuff their left hand first, mainly b/c that's the quickest and easiest way to get the hook on them for me. I finish up and double lock.

If they're not compliant, it's usually plant them face down and hook asshole to elbow... whatever it takes to get them hooked.
5/15/2007 5:37:16 PM EDT
[#11]
Hold the cuffs in my weak hand (right) and cuff their right hand.
5/15/2007 5:42:12 PM EDT
[#12]
I'm a lefty, so I'd cuff their left with my right hand.  I want the arm on my strong side cuffed first.
5/15/2007 5:58:10 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
To the headboard, she likes the padded cuffs


That's a little rough.   Don't you whisper in her ear first?

Usually right hand (my educated hand)  to right hand first and then the left hand.

Non compliant.  Polyester pile and once in control the cuffs magically appear on wrists.

Learned a valuable lesson.  Getting a cuff on some one who is not controlled can get you smacked with the cuff flopping around on guys arm.   Kinda hurts.  Always seems to leave visible injury on you or partner.
5/15/2007 6:07:52 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
I usually sit on my left hand for 15 minutes prior to make it a challenge


5/16/2007 4:40:25 AM EDT
[#15]
If they aren't compliant, there is usually more of us then them so whatever way works.
If they are compliant, I cuff using my strong hand (right) to their left first, switch hands on the cuffs and cuff their right. That way I maintain control of the cuffs and their arm(s).
5/16/2007 9:22:45 AM EDT
[#16]
You guys don't use the butterfly technique and try to cuff both hands at the same time??

Sure, high profile, felony stop, and other ways change the technique you can use, but a vast majority are compliant.
5/16/2007 9:31:45 AM EDT
[#17]
I use my right hand since my cuff case (Bianchi Open Top Cuff case) is on the right side of my belt, behind my key loop (I'm corrections) and I keep my left hand (strong hand) up front while keeping the inmate in check while I stand at a 45 degree angle with my left leg forward on the inside of the inmate's right leg, so if he decides to "buck", I reach with my strong hand (left) around his neck and put the inmate down on the ground using my body weight on him.

Haven't done it yet, but I guarantee you, I'm ready for it.
5/16/2007 9:33:45 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
I usually sit on my left hand for 15 minutes prior to make it a challenge


Dude, this cuffing a perp; not a "perv".
5/16/2007 10:58:13 AM EDT
[#19]
For compliant people cuffs in the dominate hand and I cuff their right hand first.  If it is a fight or during a warrant service, I just the cuffs on them.
5/16/2007 2:56:58 PM EDT
[#20]
If they are standing, I usually cuff the opposite hand first while holding their hands behind them.

If they are proned out, whichever arm I have a hold of.
5/18/2007 9:39:06 AM EDT
[#21]
I'm in a tac unit so I always have a partner on hand.  We have a sign that that we use when we decide to put the hooks on someone.  We are both always there when they go on. (We are both 6'04, 230-250lbs).

Anyway, when it's decided, we both walk up to the subject in a nonaggressive manner and place our hands on him together before the pouch comes unsnapped.  Too many times we are off to the races as soon as the cuffee hears the snap or velcro of the cuff case.

Once hands are on him, cuff with the right hand, and always knuckle to knuckle.

Be safe and tactical.  Always have a plan in mind.
5/18/2007 9:46:13 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I use my right hand since my cuff case (Bianchi Open Top Cuff case) is on the right side of my belt, behind my key loop (I'm corrections) and I keep my left hand (strong hand) up front while keeping the inmate in check while I stand at a 45 degree angle with my left leg forward on the inside of the inmate's right leg, so if he decides to "buck", I reach with my strong hand (left) around his neck and put the inmate down on the ground using my body weight on him.

Haven't done it yet, but I guarantee you, I'm ready for it.


Arm around neck = bad juju.

big +1..unless you are applying a carotid choke hold..
5/18/2007 9:50:49 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
I usually sit on my left hand for 15 minutes prior to make it a challenge


Isn't that called the stranger?
5/18/2007 9:53:55 AM EDT
[#24]
When I was first practicing cuffing techniques on my wife, my son (3 years old or so at the time) would come up an kick me in the shin and start crying for cuffing MOM!

5/18/2007 10:01:16 AM EDT
[#25]
with compliant people, right hand first, most likely it's their most offensive weapon hand, then follow up with the left hand and double lock,

fighting people?  any way and any how I can...
5/18/2007 10:16:24 AM EDT
[#26]
Right hand/ Right hand
5/18/2007 10:43:27 AM EDT
[#27]
Cuffs in left hand, I cuff their right hand first.
5/18/2007 11:05:36 AM EDT
[#28]
Right hand - right hand to right bedpost.........
5/18/2007 1:28:40 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I use my right hand since my cuff case (Bianchi Open Top Cuff case) is on the right side of my belt, behind my key loop (I'm corrections) and I keep my left hand (strong hand) up front while keeping the inmate in check while I stand at a 45 degree angle with my left leg forward on the inside of the inmate's right leg, so if he decides to "buck", I reach with my strong hand (left) around his neck and put the inmate down on the ground using my body weight on him.

Haven't done it yet, but I guarantee you, I'm ready for it.


Arm around neck = bad juju.


Pfft, whatever gets the horse in the barn works.
5/18/2007 1:49:31 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
Arm around neck = bad juju.

Pfft, whatever gets the horse in the barn works.


BULL.

Have you ever had something go wrong using that technique and had to explain it to a grand jury?

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER state or write down in a report "I put my arm around his neck" and took him to the ground. PERIOD.
5/18/2007 5:09:33 PM EDT
[#31]

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NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER state or write down in a report "I put my arm around his neck" and took him to the ground. PERIOD.


"In attempting to restrain the suspect, I digitally manipulated his vertebrae, C1-C7, and challenged his vertical gait."

Code 4
5/18/2007 5:23:59 PM EDT
[#32]
While my agency has a VERY specific procedure for cuffing, of course it goes right out the window in a struggle.

The one good thing I have heard from locals as well as state about all of my agency's law enforcement training is the way we teach cuffing is very good.
5/18/2007 10:06:01 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Arm around neck = bad juju.

Pfft, whatever gets the horse in the barn works.


BULL.

Have you ever had something go wrong using that technique and had to explain it to a grand jury?

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER state or write down in a report "I put my arm around his neck" and took him to the ground. PERIOD.


Guess you never heard of the LVNR either

Something wrong is not the officer, but the suspect manipulating the position.
5/18/2007 10:46:00 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Arm around neck = bad juju.

Pfft, whatever gets the horse in the barn works.


BULL.

Have you ever had something go wrong using that technique and had to explain it to a grand jury?

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER state or write down in a report "I put my arm around his neck" and took him to the ground. PERIOD.


Why not, it;s gonna be on the video.

I don't allow the suits in the chairs cancel my right to life.
5/18/2007 11:31:21 PM EDT
[#35]
i always try to get both hooks on at once if possible. gives them less time to think about fighting if they're compliant.