Posted: 6/20/2006 3:57:59 PM EDT
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Jun 20, 6:31 AM LAHORE, Pakistan - A Pakistan man killed his three young daughters Tuesday before confessing to police, prompting one officer to shoot him dead, an investigator said. Mohammed Ashraf, 38, used a knife to cut the throats of his daughters aged 3, 5 and 9 before dawn in the eastern city of Lahore, said senior police investigator Amir Zulifquar. Ashraf then went to a police station to report his crime, and was charged with murdering his daughters and placed in a cell. "As I left the police station after questioning Mohammed Ashraf, one of my guards opened fire and killed him," Zulifquar said. The policeman who shot Ashraf was identified as Mohammed Nadeem and was taken into custody, Zulifquar said. Nadeem told investigators that he killed Ashraf to "eliminate an animal from society," according to Zulifquar. "A person who kills innocent children deserves no mercy," Zulifquar quoted Nadeem as saying. Before his killing, Ashraf told police that he was jobless and had killed his daughters because of poverty, Zulifquar said. Ashraf's wife Sughran Bibi told reporters that she didn't hear her daughters' cries and that her husband had woken her up after "committing the heinous crime for which I will never forgive him." Nadeem, the policeman, will face court for a ruling on whether he should be charged with murder or not, Zulifquar said. No date has been set for when he will appear in court. If convicted, he faces the death penalty. Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may |
This is probably the first time that i agree with you. Everyone in this forum is supposted to be risking their lives to promote and facilitate the criminal justice system. If you would rather conduct vigilantee justice and practice law (cold blooded murder is not law anyway) without any kind of order, then maybe you shouldnt be in the criminal justice system. What that man did to his children was wrong and unforgivable, but at the same time what the jailer did was cold blooded murder and that was wrong too. Condoning this guys actions is like saying that two wrongs makes a right. If the CJ system accepts this guys actions then it will send a message to society that they can handle their own problems without heeding the CJ system that all of you have given blood and sweat to protect and promote. Just hearing you guys talk about this in a positive light scares the shit out of me and makes me wonder if i can work with people like you. Im too close to being a cop to loose heart now so please dont scare the idealistic youth like me away from the profession with statements like this or you will be the last in your legacy. (edited for redundancy, i wont type tired anymore) |
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You want to shoot a jailed prisoner in the head you say? umm ok,  but first...4.) Posting comments or links in support of illegal activities including, but not limited to, threats against the life of any living person, doing harm to a state or federal official, or advocating the overthrow of the government. Sorry, i just couldnt go to sleep after reading this thread, now that its out of the way maybe i can get back to bed. G'nite All! |
I like the "idealistic youth" rookies. They are the best ones to fuck with! 
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We could sit down all day and argue the morality of the guy's actions and never agree. But yes, it was unlawful. I think that's a given. But I also know just how...victorious that makes those of us in the cop field feel. We all too often see the POS's walk away from charges like that with not so much as a slap on the wrist. There have been to many times that I wanted to return the favor to someone that's beat the h3ll out of a kid. But at the same time, I can't condone it. Whether or not I think it was appropriate or moral is irrelevant. I think that the act is made immoral by the simple fact that it is outside of the standards of the law I have sworn to uphold. Edited to change relavant to what I meant to say. |
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thats a good point, victorious should not be a concern here because its not a "us vs. them" situation between officers and criminals, if you think this way it will tear you up mentally. It really should be a criminal vs. the criminal justice system with all its checks and balances in place. Criminals can beat one cop or one judge but the system is a complex design thats evolved through dealing with millions of cases just like this and although its not perfect, its the best option that we have. If you get personally involved and let your feelings come into play you end up blowing some inmates head off, if you leave that inmates fate up to the criminal justice system that you’ve given an oath to serve and that you believe in, then everything should work out the right way. This is kind of like one of those abstract concepts like religion. If you have faith in god then you can deal with anything no matter how heinous and you will always be able to lead the righteous life. Ive found faith in the CJ system to some extent (even though it just royally fucked me), now all i need to work on is religion! |
You woke from your vegatative state? Go back to bed. Did the cop do right. Nope. Would many here think about doing what he did, when put in a similar situation? Probably. I pray for the souls of the dead, and for forgiveness and understanding for the cop. |
Man...If you could not sleep after reading this...I fear you are in for some sleepless nights once you DO become a police officer. |
Yep, i have to agree with that too. Im starting to worry that im going to be in for a rough crash course in morality as applied to real life law enforcement. The world isnt always as idealistic and principaled as I am and im starting to worry about what i will do if i have to work with crooked or brutal cops, street justice is even more repulsive to me than regular crime. Lets keep this on the down low however, i dont want my recruiters thinking that im some kind of hippie or starry eyed dreamer! |
I hear that China is hiring police officers, you might want to look into that. Then even have mobile execution vans there and you entire family can come watch you kill some one in cold blood without a trial. Im pretty sure that this guy would have gotten the death sentence anyway if the system had been left to work its course. And for the people who advocate torture, is this something that you've tried and do you think that you are evil enough to perform an act like this. I for one know that i dont have it in me to tear another human being apart simply for revenge. The only people in America that do things like this, that im aware of, are serial killers. |