Posted: 1/11/2004 2:19:51 PM EDT
| I was just wondering what the LEO perspective is on this debate. What is prefered for duty rifles, irons, red dot, or scope? What about on a shotgun? I've seen some shotguns in the armory forum that had the Eotech sights on them. Anyone use one on duty? |
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I agree. Get a good, bright light first. I like the Surefire M500 and the M900. I have the 900 on my personal guns but have a department issued M500 on my department AR. This is because the 500 will fit in the big sky racks and that is what SWAT has been running on their guns for a few years now. Admin. likes everything uniform you know. Righ now I have (again department issued) a Trijicon Reflex II on my duty gun. I like it and have learned to work around its limitations. If left to my own devices I would run a Compact ACOG 2x20MM with the red triangle. I used a TA-11 for years until I got my hands on a department gun. The TA-11 is a little over kill for most LE encounters. But being able to look INTO a building or house in the middle of the night at over 100 yards with a bright light and the TA-11 came in very handy several times. |
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My experience has been that you'll get much more mileage out of a good light than any other piece of equipment you can add to the rifle. I have SureFire 500s on both my ARs. But I hasten to add that since my eyes decided that I was not going to be able to use iron sights effectively any more, I have put an Aimpoint on one rifle & a TA31 ACOG on the other. If I had to choose, for duty use it would be the Aimpoint, hands down. Out to 200 yds it is all you need, and the likelihood of having to engage beyond that distance is pretty small, IMHO. I would add options for duty use in this order: A good tactical sling, a good light, a good red dot sight..... |
| To be honest, what I want does not really matter, it's determined by policy. Red dots are about it, certain manufacturer's and models as well. I carried a 4X Weaver on a Remington model 7 in .223 for a while as a counter-sniper rig, both gun and scope are not allowed anymore. |
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The light will be of greater use all around. We have no restrictions in policy as long as its approved by the head range master/instructor. I use an EoTech on my AR and I have a Wal-mart red dot on my AK unitl the Aimpoint arrives. And yes, my range master approved the AK for duty use, he's awesome. We did have a guy that had an AR built up to address threats out to 600 meters easy. He had a huge scope on it, but had a hell of a time qualifying with it. He was not getting his double taps off in time cause his field of view was so small. BTW, we only qual to 100 yards until the new range is built...then only 200 tops. |
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A light weight BRIGHT Light, like the broom stick light system by Surefire (expensive) and an Aimpoint. You can't go wrong for all around use. Agreed up to 100 with no problem, also, very durable for patrol. If you do entries, it is good for rapid target acquisition... c |
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I have an EoTech on my personally-owned AR that is approved for duty use. I know several others in my agency that also use the EoTech. I also have an M4 issued to me with an Aimpoint. The Aimpoints are on most issued weapons in the USMS. Some guys also purchase them for personally-owned weapons. We also have a few Reflexes floating around too. It comes down to personal preference. Our agency poilcy requires that you qual with whatever optics you plan on having on the weapon for duty carry. You MUST have iron sites for back-up, in the event the optic fails. |