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12/16/2013 3:00:29 AM EDT
Any brothers using tool fuels in saws? Our repair division switched over a couple years ago and the maintenance has reduced, but functionality has suffered IMO. They seem harder to start and idle out sometimes when cold. We do start them every week and run them until hot. The maintenance division does not share my opinion on it.

For somewhere in the neighborhood of $50 per gallon I thinks it's a waste of money. I've had no problem with gasoline and my saws run like champs at home on it. Any experience good or bad?
12/16/2013 5:38:24 AM EDT
[#1]
50 bucks a gallon cannot be cost effective. Just buy ethanol free gas and add some fuel stabilizer.
12/16/2013 1:31:58 PM EDT
[#2]
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50 bucks a gallon cannot be cost effective. Just buy ethanol free gas and add some fuel stabilizer.
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this.

I run regular fuel and PRI-G and have no problems in any of my stuff.

J-
12/16/2013 6:40:56 PM EDT
[#3]
Are you talking about the pre-mixed stuff that comes in a can?

We have been using it for a while, and I have noticed no difference in performance between that and mixing our own. I'm sure its not cost effective, though.
12/17/2013 7:54:20 AM EDT
[#4]
Below is their site.

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Yeah its the premixed stuff. I cannot find the actual cost but I was told it was in the $50/gallon range. We switched about 2 years ago when we used to run pump gas with sea foam as stabilizer. I don't remember the brand of oil we used.
12/17/2013 2:23:29 PM EDT
[#5]
I just looked, and our stuff is called 'MotoMix' and made (or at least branded) by Stihl. I've noticed no difference in performance from when we went from mixing our own to the pre-mix.

I'm sure it costs more, but we are fairly slow department, so the increase in price is probably negligible, and might be worth it because it is ethanol-free (which is nonexistent around here.)



I also laughed at the 'your fuel will become unstable 15 days after you buy it!' on their website.
12/17/2013 8:20:58 PM EDT
[#6]
I think the maintenance guys with the Specialized Rescue Team (rope/trench/Conspace) have it in their containers, but all the local departments are still running pump gas we mix ourselves.
12/17/2013 8:46:04 PM EDT
[#7]
We run motonix. Large department.  I am in the station that does saw maint.  Using it has eliminated most of our fuel based problems.  It has stabilizer and a fuel system cleaner.  We have noticed no change in running and given the ingredients I don't see how anyone else could see performance degradation from it.
12/18/2013 6:14:12 PM EDT
[#8]
Lucas makes it as well.
12/18/2013 6:52:29 PM EDT
[#9]
One of the agencies around the corner switched to it a while back. Their guys say just about the same thing. Not so much on the tool trouble, but they definitely have said it hasn't helped anything either.
12/22/2013 6:41:23 PM EDT
[#10]
I've been fighting and fighting for us to switch to ethanol free fuel for our small motors for a few years now and no one is fucking listening.    and they wonder why we are sending out our saws fans and hydros for maintenance more and more...  









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