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11/15/2012 2:47:09 PM EDT
Any documented shootings with 5.7 x 28?  Tons of forums whine about the performance,but it's always "everyone knows" it don't work. Is there any real data available?
11/15/2012 4:25:00 PM EDT
[#1]
I took a shooting class from 2 Jacksonville Sheriff's Office (FL) SWAT guys on Tuesday. One of the other shooters brought a P90 so it came up that their team had shot 4 people over the course of 7-8 years they had them. Only one was fatal with 13 hits on target.

ETA: They've transitioned to M4s.
11/15/2012 5:01:38 PM EDT
[#2]
Didn't a large Texas PD use them briefly?
11/15/2012 5:25:30 PM EDT
[#3]
Well there is a murder case on a ex federal judge son who shot his wife with a FN 5.7. He shot two shots at her one  in the chest and one in head. He is on trial as we speak.
11/15/2012 6:26:43 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Didn't a large Texas PD use them briefly?


I heard a rumor a few years ago that Houston retired their MP5's for p90's.  Then I heard more recently that
They tested out the P90's but decided not to go with them.
11/15/2012 7:21:40 PM EDT
[#5]
Houston started using the P90 a long time ago, not sure if they are still carying them.
11/15/2012 7:30:36 PM EDT
[#6]
Their eod guys are carrying old mo5s as of 9mo ago.
11/15/2012 7:31:31 PM EDT
[#7]

Didn't Major Hasan use that caliber?

Edit:  Yeah, he did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting
11/16/2012 3:47:59 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
I took a shooting class from 2 Jacksonville Sheriff's Office (FL) SWAT guys on Tuesday. One of the other shooters brought a P90 so it came up that their team had shot 4 people over the course of 7-8 years they had them. Only one was fatal with 13 hits on target.

ETA: They've transitioned to M4s.


can back this story as ive worked with a few of them....they shot a bank robber/ car jacker in the chest through the windshield of the car...as he's being shot, he's yelling "stop shooting me"
that was the final straw that broke the camels back a few years ago with their p90s...

shot placement my ass, if he's 3 feet away and being drilled with an automatic weapon in the chest and he's not dead....piss on that weapon
11/16/2012 5:02:25 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:

Didn't Major Hasan use that caliber?

Edit:  Yeah, he did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting


yes he did
11/16/2012 5:03:15 AM EDT
[#10]
Our swat team dumped the P90's for very SBR's
11/16/2012 4:34:35 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I took a shooting class from 2 Jacksonville Sheriff's Office (FL) SWAT guys on Tuesday. One of the other shooters brought a P90 so it came up that their team had shot 4 people over the course of 7-8 years they had them. Only one was fatal with 13 hits on target.

ETA: They've transitioned to M4s.


can back this story as ive worked with a few of them....they shot a bank robber/ car jacker in the chest through the windshield of the car...as he's being shot, he's yelling "stop shooting me"
that was the final straw that broke the camels back a few years ago with their p90s...

shot placement my ass, if he's 3 feet away and being drilled with an automatic weapon in the chest and he's not dead....piss on that weapon



I'm glad you told that story. I heard them mention it but didn't catch the details.