[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Thanks for the input (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/9/2012 5:08:43 PM EDT
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I would like to know your viewpoint on this. Married woman "Ann" and Capt. "Fred" are having an affair. Capt. "Fred" has been calling her from the dept phone and his cell phone while on duty to talk and possibly to set up times to meet. Possible sex at lunch or a fast hook up at his house. As a sworn Police Officer of the "Willyville" Police Department, my fundamental obligation is to protect the constitutional rights and freedoms of the people whom I have been sworn to uphold. While I consider the way I choose to conduct my private affairs a personal freedom, I accept the responsibilities for my actions, as well as inaction, while on duty or off-duty, when those actions bring disrepute to the public image of the "Willyville"Police Department, my fellow officers, and my profession. I vow to perform all my duties in a professional manner. I consider the abilities to be courageous in the face of danger and to exercise restraint in the use of my powers and authorities to be the ultimate public trust. I accept that I may consistently strive to achieve excellence in learning the necessary knowledge and skills associated with my duties according to the standards of quality expected of my position. I vow to be fully truthful and honest in my dealings with others. I deplore lies and halftruths that mislead or do not fully inform those who must depend upon my honesty. I will obey the very laws that I am sworn to uphold. I will seek affirmative ways to comply with the standards of the "Willyville" Police Department and the lawful directives of my supervisors. I vow to treat others with courtesy at all times. I consider it to be a professional weakness to allow another’s behavior to dictate my response. I will not allow others’ actions or failings to be my excuse for not performing my duties in a responsible, professional, and expected manner. I vow to empathize with the problems of people with whom I come into daily contact. However, I cannot allow my personal feelings, prejudices, animosities, or friendships to influence the discretionary authorities entrusted to my job. I will affirmatively seek ways to avoid conflicts, and potential conflicts of interest that could compromise my official authority or public image. I hold the authority inherent in my position to be an affirmation of the public’s trust in me as a sworn Police Officer. I do not take this trust lightly. As long as I remain in this position, I will dedicate myself to maintaining this trust and upholding all the ideals of the law enforcement profession. I would like all input pleaseAre you a LEO? This sounds like you cut and pasted some bullshit written by an administrator wearing 5.11 pants and penny loafers that likes to sip tepid soy lattes. |
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As long as he's doing the rest of his job, I wouldn't care.
I don't care who's banging whom. Just do your damn job. Cell minutes? Work phone? I guarantee every single officer in every single department with a provided phone has done personal shit on it. Side businesses, doctor appointments, poon, whatever. |
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I would like to know your viewpoint on this. Married woman "Ann" and Capt. "Fred" are having an affair. Capt. "Fred" has been calling her from the dept phone and his cell phone while on duty to talk and possibly to set up times to meet. Possible sex at lunch or a fast hook up at his house. As a sworn Police Officer of the "Willyville" Police Department, my fundamental obligation is to protect the constitutional rights and freedoms of the people whom I have been sworn to uphold. While I consider the way I choose to conduct my private affairs a personal freedom, I accept the responsibilities for my actions, as well as inaction, while on duty or off-duty, when those actions bring disrepute to the public image of the "Willyville"Police Department, my fellow officers, and my profession. I vow to perform all my duties in a professional manner. I consider the abilities to be courageous in the face of danger and to exercise restraint in the use of my powers and authorities to be the ultimate public trust. I accept that I may consistently strive to achieve excellence in learning the necessary knowledge and skills associated with my duties according to the standards of quality expected of my position. I vow to be fully truthful and honest in my dealings with others. I deplore lies and halftruths that mislead or do not fully inform those who must depend upon my honesty. I will obey the very laws that I am sworn to uphold. I will seek affirmative ways to comply with the standards of the "Willyville" Police Department and the lawful directives of my supervisors. I vow to treat others with courtesy at all times. I consider it to be a professional weakness to allow another’s behavior to dictate my response. I will not allow others’ actions or failings to be my excuse for not performing my duties in a responsible, professional, and expected manner. I vow to empathize with the problems of people with whom I come into daily contact. However, I cannot allow my personal feelings, prejudices, animosities, or friendships to influence the discretionary authorities entrusted to my job. I will affirmatively seek ways to avoid conflicts, and potential conflicts of interest that could compromise my official authority or public image. I hold the authority inherent in my position to be an affirmation of the public’s trust in me as a sworn Police Officer. I do not take this trust lightly. As long as I remain in this position, I will dedicate myself to maintaining this trust and upholding all the ideals of the law enforcement profession. I would like all input pleaseAre you a LEO? This sounds like you cut and pasted some bullshit written by an administrator wearing 5.11 pants and penny loafers that likes to sip tepid soy lattes. I'm not a Leo, this is going on with a friend of mine. I'm just wondering what loe's think about it. This department has had some other issues like this that has not turned out well for the officer. |
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As long as he's doing the rest of his job, I wouldn't care. I don't care who's banging whom. Just do your damn job. Cell minutes? Work phone? I guarantee every single officer in every single department with a provided phone has done personal shit on it. Side businesses, doctor appointments, poon, whatever. This. Yes having an affair might be construed as an integrity issue, but the bottom line is that's a PERSONAL issue, not a PROFESSIONAL issue. You might not like it, but unless its a Captain sexing a subordinate then I don't give a rats ass. If the guy is a hard worker, then THAT is what should be looked at. IMHO, digging into people's personal / sex lives does not belong anywhere in the workplace unless its violating policy, statute, or is causing workplace violence issues. YMMV. -SleeperShooter |
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I would like to know your viewpoint on this. Married woman "Ann" and Capt. "Fred" are having an affair. Capt. "Fred" has been calling her from the dept phone and his cell phone while on duty to talk and possibly to set up times to meet. Possible sex at lunch or a fast hook up at his house. As a sworn Police Officer of the "Willyville" Police Department, my fundamental obligation is to protect the constitutional rights and freedoms of the people whom I have been sworn to uphold. While I consider the way I choose to conduct my private affairs a personal freedom, I accept the responsibilities for my actions, as well as inaction, while on duty or off-duty, when those actions bring disrepute to the public image of the "Willyville"Police Department, my fellow officers, and my profession. I vow to perform all my duties in a professional manner. I consider the abilities to be courageous in the face of danger and to exercise restraint in the use of my powers and authorities to be the ultimate public trust. I accept that I may consistently strive to achieve excellence in learning the necessary knowledge and skills associated with my duties according to the standards of quality expected of my position. I vow to be fully truthful and honest in my dealings with others. I deplore lies and halftruths that mislead or do not fully inform those who must depend upon my honesty. I will obey the very laws that I am sworn to uphold. I will seek affirmative ways to comply with the standards of the "Willyville" Police Department and the lawful directives of my supervisors. I vow to treat others with courtesy at all times. I consider it to be a professional weakness to allow another’s behavior to dictate my response. I will not allow others’ actions or failings to be my excuse for not performing my duties in a responsible, professional, and expected manner. I vow to empathize with the problems of people with whom I come into daily contact. However, I cannot allow my personal feelings, prejudices, animosities, or friendships to influence the discretionary authorities entrusted to my job. I will affirmatively seek ways to avoid conflicts, and potential conflicts of interest that could compromise my official authority or public image. I hold the authority inherent in my position to be an affirmation of the public’s trust in me as a sworn Police Officer. I do not take this trust lightly. As long as I remain in this position, I will dedicate myself to maintaining this trust and upholding all the ideals of the law enforcement profession. I would like all input pleaseAre you a LEO? This sounds like you cut and pasted some bullshit written by an administrator wearing 5.11 pants and penny loafers that likes to sip tepid soy lattes. I'm not a Leo, this is going on with a friend of mine. I'm just wondering what loe's think about it. This department has had some other issues like this that has not turned out well for the officer. So, two consenting adults are having sex and you want to call their job and tell on them.... 
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What the Captain and this woman are doing is wrong. But it's not illegal and it's not my business because she ain't my wife and he ain't my husband. If she was a subordinate it would be a problem. If she was married to another officer in the same department, particularly one of the Captain's subordinates, it would be a problem. (In the "old days' probably an ass whuppin'). If it becomes public and affects the reputation of the department then it can be a problem....but I won't be the person to make it public. As previously stated by others, it's sh**ty and wrong but it's their business. Unless and until it affects the Captain's work performance or meets one of the criteria above.....I would stay out of it.
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Depends where you are I guess. In my part of Fl the Capt. would be flipping burgers or looking to get a job somewhere they don't care about such things. They check credit/debt ratio/neighbors/etc.. around here. Personal problems become work problems real quick.
Personally, I would not get involved, nor would I feel inclined to make any anonymous phone calls if I did not know the woman's husband. I would have a very low opinion of this Capt. and would avoid him like the plague... |
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I believe an Army Colonel once said it best. "I will not have any man who cheats on his wife working for me for if he is lying to her, how do I know that he is not lying to me?" (or wtte)
Now that said, who is the one cheating? If he is the one cheating, then he's a liability issue BUT such a decision is something that should be made by a superior, not a subordinate. If she is the one who is cheating and she's not a member of the department, then the liability question drops significantly (unless she is a member of a different department, but let's say no for now). _________________________________________________________________________________________ ("....I can't risk this mission or any mission if Scaramanga is going to pop up and put a bullet in you. I'll support your request to resign or you can take a sabitical and go to ground until this matter is settled."––M, (w,stte), "The Man With The Golden Gun") |
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i say that you drop it.
The one thing about police work, is that there's ABSOLUTELY no secrets in police work. Its a whole group of guys who work very closely together for a living investigating every level of human deviance conceivable. Cops at base nature are inquisitive people. I want to know what you did, when you did it, what you were thinking when you did it, why you did it, what made you do it in the past, what will make you do it in the future, what i can do to make you stop doing it, what color boxers you were wearing when you did it, who you did it with, what other ways that you've done it before, who you run with that also does it and all of the above concerning them too. Ive made strippers cry about their daddies and religious girls confess their fetishes. If this Captain is sticking his dick in something that he shouldnt, somebody at his department who is tasked with correcting that problem probably already knows or will know very quickly. |
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I would like to know your viewpoint on this. This sounds like you cut and pasted some bullshit written by an administrator wearing 5.11 pants and penny loafers that likes to sip tepid soy lattes. It was probably C&P'd from the employee handbook or department web page wyhere said administrator (or brown noser) wrote it. 
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| Unless he is breaking policy with his phone usage then whats the work issue? If you dont like what he is doing on a personal level then just dont have beers with him. If your wanting tips on getting your own badge bunny then have a beer with him. Thats about all i can say about this issue. |
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This. Yes having an affair might be construed as an integrity issue, but the bottom line is that's a PERSONAL issue, not a PROFESSIONAL issue. You might not like it, but unless its a Captain sexing a subordinate then I don't give a rats ass. If the guy is a hard worker, then THAT is what should be looked at. IMHO, digging into people's personal / sex lives does not belong anywhere in the workplace unless its violating policy, statute, or is causing workplace violence issues. YMMV. -SleeperShooter If lying to your spouse and ignoring the commitment you made in your own house is acceptable, how could one expect the commitment to the public to still stand? If you can't be trusted to be truthful and honest at home, I am not sure you could be trusted out on the street. He is doing the act on duty... so it becomes a dept. issue. He is using his dept. phone, so it is a dept. issue. He invited the dept. into the mess, so he should reap his rewards. |
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Some of you are missing the point, this could be you sister,daughter, brother,son or what every. I juat want to know how YOU look at it. The code of ethics came off of the department web site, I change the city name. For me the point is that life has taught me not to pass judgment from only one side of a story . I'm not getting what your motivation is here . How does the action of these individuals effect you ? |
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Some of you are missing the point, this could be you sister,daughter, brother,son or what every. I juat want to know how YOU look at it. The code of ethics came off of the department web site, I change the city name. What is the point that people are missing? |
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Some of you are missing the point, this could be you sister,daughter, brother,son or what every. I juat want to know how YOU look at it. The code of ethics came off of the department web site, I change the city name. The way I look at it is this...I don't KNOW what's going on. I have not SEEN what is happening, so anything I "know" about the situation is likely to be hearsay. That's enough to keep my ass out of it. It is a stupid position for him to himself into if that is what's happening, and it will come back to bite him in the ass in good time. I really do have better things to do with my work time then go running upstairs with the latest TMZ gossip about an administrator. Jesus Christ. |
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I would like to know your viewpoint on this. Married woman "Ann" and Capt. "Fred" are having an affair. Capt. "Fred" has been calling her from the dept phone and his cell phone while on duty to talk and possibly to set up times to meet. Possible sex at lunch or a fast hook up at his house. As a sworn Police Officer of the "Willyville" Police Department, my fundamental obligation is to protect the constitutional rights and freedoms of the people whom I have been sworn to uphold. While I consider the way I choose to conduct my private affairs a personal freedom, I accept the responsibilities for my actions, as well as inaction, while on duty or off-duty, when those actions bring disrepute to the public image of the "Willyville"Police Department, my fellow officers, and my profession. I vow to perform all my duties in a professional manner. I consider the abilities to be courageous in the face of danger and to exercise restraint in the use of my powers and authorities to be the ultimate public trust. I accept that I may consistently strive to achieve excellence in learning the necessary knowledge and skills associated with my duties according to the standards of quality expected of my position. I vow to be fully truthful and honest in my dealings with others. I deplore lies and halftruths that mislead or do not fully inform those who must depend upon my honesty. I will obey the very laws that I am sworn to uphold. I will seek affirmative ways to comply with the standards of the "Willyville" Police Department and the lawful directives of my supervisors. I vow to treat others with courtesy at all times. I consider it to be a professional weakness to allow another’s behavior to dictate my response. I will not allow others’ actions or failings to be my excuse for not performing my duties in a responsible, professional, and expected manner. I vow to empathize with the problems of people with whom I come into daily contact. However, I cannot allow my personal feelings, prejudices, animosities, or friendships to influence the discretionary authorities entrusted to my job. I will affirmatively seek ways to avoid conflicts, and potential conflicts of interest that could compromise my official authority or public image. I hold the authority inherent in my position to be an affirmation of the public’s trust in me as a sworn Police Officer. I do not take this trust lightly. As long as I remain in this position, I will dedicate myself to maintaining this trust and upholding all the ideals of the law enforcement profession. I would like all input please^ future chief of police. myob |
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IMO...
Cops are humans, with all the frailties therein. However, We PUT THEM in a position of trust for our well being. As a man who's ex was unfaithful... I would simply contact the husband anonymously and let him deal with it. He deserves to know... how and what he does with it is up to him at that point. |
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I would like to know your viewpoint on this. Married woman "Ann" and Capt. "Fred" are having an affair. Capt. "Fred" has been calling her from the dept phone and his cell phone while on duty to talk and possibly to set up times to meet. Possible sex at lunch or a fast hook up at his house. While I consider the way I choose to conduct my private affairs a personal freedom, I accept the responsibilities for my actions, as well as inaction, while on duty or off-duty, when those actions bring disrepute to the public image of the "Willyville"Police Department, my fellow officers, and my profession. I would like all input pleaseI would MYOB on this one. If you aren't Anns husband or Freds wife, stay out of it. Once it becomes public knowledge then it might be different. I understand how you feel. We had a CLEO who would be at the bar, drag himself home in his car and then be a PITA about the guys working for him not arresting more drunks. However, it sounds like the best course for you right now is to steer clear of either of these folks to be the fullest extent possible and let events play themselves out. |
| One is a relative and the other is a very good friend that I have known from childhood. BOth have talked to me about it, thats how I came to know the in's and outs of it. Im not a LEO so i didnt know how it was looked at. Thats all I was looking for. Thanks for the input |
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Not a LEO.....I'm a Corrections Officer......Meh..Probably closer to a Prison Guard than
a corrections officer....At any rate; Keep all of the information to yourself. Nothing is going to be gained for anyone, or anything about spilling beans about people's love life. Stay out. I can't tell you how many times this face  has totally exonerated me from highly
combustable situations, that simply, are not my beeswax. All that "Oath" stuff? That lives inside your or it does not. It will rear it's head in one way or another in due time if you buck it. Unless it's just something YOU cannot handle morally, in which case, spill the beans, and understand with spilt beans come lots of hard times. |
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I would like to know your viewpoint on this. This sounds like you cut and pasted some bullshit written by an administrator wearing 5.11 pants and penny loafers that likes to sip tepid soy lattes. It was probably C&P'd from the employee handbook or department web page wyhere said administrator (or brown noser) wrote it. It is the Law Enforcement Officer Code of Ethics, I first read it in Patrol Procedures by Payton. Old but good book. |
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Is this from some sort of handbook ?
"Hey kids ! How to troll on a cop forum : 1. Post some generic, self-righteous "Boy Scout Police Oath." 2. Post complaint that some cop is banging some broad. 3. Deduce that cops are immoral, hypocritical fiends. " " They go around having adulterous sex, and then write me a ticket for speeding ! Gasp ! " please . . . |
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Like a fellow officer told me....the badge will get you pussy but the pussy will get your badge. Seen it happen numerous times too in my dept. There was the time with the titty flashing pics with officers and party girls that made it to HQ. Note to others: try to avoid being in a picture in your uniform with young titty in your face. At least don't be smiling in said picture! There was the officer dating the 18 yo high school senior and picking her up from school in the patrol truck. She was hot in her bikini but not worth losing your job and marriage for (which was the final result!). Now he's working fast food. Myself....I stay away from the holster sniffers. However, I would guess that the guy the original OP is talking about will get his reward in the end. He will lose his credibility, reputation, or job by the time it's all done.
That's up to him though, personally I don't give a shit what other officers do with some "strange". I just choose to stay away from it, guess I'm just a fruit? 
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Because rumors and speculation are always right. The LEO rumor mill would put teenage girls to shame. Shit, the emergency services rumor mill puts women to shame.  Hell, 99% of the gossip you hear in emergency services is true. That rumor mill is more like a industrial factory. |
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Because rumors and speculation are always right. The LEO rumor mill would put teenage girls to shame. Shit, the emergency services rumor mill puts women to shame. Hell, 99% of the gossip you hear in emergency services is true. That rumor mill is more like a industrial factory. True. Emergency services: Where sexual harrassment isn't reported,it's graded. |